Decided on my Career

[molbjerg]

Yeah, a degree from Lincoln isn't worth the toilet paper it's printed on. Did you know that only a few years ago (when I was there) they were actually selling degrees on the internet?

You won't have high level teachers, so no, you don't really benefit other than what you teach yourself. Maybe it's different for your course, but it's not like we were even remotely set up with contacts. It said in the prospectus that it was a sandwich course with a vocational year, but all that actually meant was that: "if you arrange everything yourself, we will allow you to leave university for a year then carry on again".

I got my degree, then spent 2 years unemployed never hearing back from them. I got lucky last year and now I'm a professional animator, but I can honestly say that Lincoln did not help me at all.

[Osmo]

It's a banker for Apple.

HAHAHAHAHA

[Osmo]

Yeah, a degree from Lincoln isn't worth the toilet paper it's printed on. Did you know that only a few years ago (when I was there) they were actually selling degrees on the internet?

You won't have high level teachers, so no, you don't really benefit other than what you teach yourself. Maybe it's different for your course, but it's not like we were even remotely set up with contacts. It said in the prospectus that it was a sandwich course with a vocational year, but all that actually meant was that: "if you arrange everything yourself, we will allow you to leave university for a year then carry on again".

I got my degree, then spent 2 years unemployed never hearing back from them. I got lucky last year and now I'm a professional animator, but I can honestly say that Lincoln did not help me at all.

Are you making any good money?

[molbjerg]

When I was doing freelance I was making good money... £160 a day, but then I took an actual 9-5 job for the experience - and the money for that is ok, but not fantastic by a long shot.

When I go freelance properly in a while I should be at £250-£350 a day. Well, that's the aim anyway.

[Osmo]

When I was doing freelance I was making good money... £160 a day, but then I took an actual 9-5 job for the experience - and the money for that is ok, but not fantastic by a long shot.

When I go freelance properly in a while I should be at £250-£350 a day. Well, that's the aim anyway.

that is fucking sick. I wish I had that much money

[kurandoinu]

Yeah, a degree from Lincoln isn't worth the toilet paper it's printed on. Did you know that only a few years ago (when I was there) they were actually selling degrees on the internet?

You won't have high level teachers, so no, you don't really benefit other than what you teach yourself. Maybe it's different for your course, but it's not like we were even remotely set up with contacts. It said in the prospectus that it was a sandwich course with a vocational year, but all that actually meant was that: "if you arrange everything yourself, we will allow you to leave university for a year then carry on again".

I got my degree, then spent 2 years unemployed never hearing back from them. I got lucky last year and now I'm a professional animator, but I can honestly say that Lincoln did not help me at all.

Its pretty different for Graphic Design. Lincoln's pretty highly rated for that. We win a fair few awards for stuff. Plus half of the lecturer's are still out in the industry, and when businesses contact them with jobs going the details get passed straight to us.

And my boyfriend is working on an iphone app for one of the members of Led Zeppelin right now (he has to go down to London on the 17th ) which one of his lecturer's helped him to get. So it depends on the course

[temuchin]

hey Osmo- your thread caught my interest.   i read the first page or 2 then my attention started to drift after reading about the Uk universities et al.

my recommendation is to ignore what the "hot majors are" or "what looks good" and focus on what you, Osmo enjoy.   what occupation what you most like to engage in that would make you happy, or more practically speaking; would you like to wake up to and work for.   once decided work your ass off and get the best marks you possibly can.

so my point is -- forget the experts and do not what will make you the most  money- but simply a job that brings happiness.

[Osmo]

hey Osmo- your thread caught my interest.   i read the first page or 2 then my attention started to drift after reading about the Uk universities et al.

my recommendation is to ignore what the "hot majors are" or "what looks good" and focus on what you, Osmo enjoy.   what occupation what you most like to engage in that would make you happy, or more practically speaking; would you like to wake up to and work for.   once decided work your ass off and get the best marks you possibly can.

so my point is -- forget the experts and do not what will make you the most  money- but simply a job that brings happiness.

That's where it boils down to most peoples motivations, happiness.

I think the word is an illusion.

[temuchin]

That's where it boils down to most peoples motivations, happiness.

I think the word is an illusion.

happiness?  sure it could be considered an allusion in the philosophical sense; but my point is simple
and i have to admit true.   speaking from personal experience i had a job until recently that paid good money
but i detested it.   hate to wake up, bosses where incompetent women, incredibly tedious & boring work, came home
tired etc. rinse & repeat.   no doubt there is no such thing as a "perfect world".

a lot of times people choose what pays the most over what they enjoy.   i'm simply pointing out that may be a
strategic error.

[Neco]

Hapiness is in the eye of the beholder.

I was very adept with computers from an early age, and even though I was a poor student, I was constantly told how smart I was, how I could do great things and be successful.  But in reality it just set me up for my downward spiral even harder.   I do enjoy working with hardware and sometimes troubleshooting software issues (but not really my forte),  and doing basic web design work..   But I just can't see myself doing it as a profession.

I don't like the idea of being stuck in some companies  I.T helpdesk dept.  Or working for some bullshit like Best Buy  in "Geek Squad" (what self respecting person would work for a company called Geek Squad?).  Part of it is I hate the idea of having to deal with people, or customers.   The other part is,  I just feel like I missed the boat.   I have two uncles who worked for NASA (I think one still does as a contractor with Allied Signal or whoever, I never did know who he exactly worked for, but he works long hours during Shuttle missions)

The plan was to follow in their footsteps,  have an awesome job and lots of money.   So much for that.   Never graduated,  couldn't afford college if I wanted to go,  have so many interests I have no idea what I would want to study  (hardware?  programming?  web design?  game design/programming?  Music Production/Engineering?  Journalism?)  I kind of just gave up.

Yet I find myself strangely content with the work I've been doing the past couple of years.   I work primarily alone as a Merchandiser for Nabisco,  but at J.C Pennies  I work with a good group of people and my boss is awesome, not some stickler asshole.    Yeah I wish I made more than $1,000 (that's a -good- month)  because I have  medical expenses, I have severe dental problems and have been putting off having to pay a dentist to tell me what I already know (tooth has to be pulled) and then going somewhere else and paying them to do it..

But,  at the same time it doesn't really bother me..  I've mellowed out a lot,  or maybe I've just given up I'm not sure.  But I have the same normal hopes and dreams that every blue collar American does,  I work hard to get by, and I'm pretty happy for it otherwise.

Being happy doesn't have to be an illusion,  but finding true happiness is the hard part.

[Osmo]

Dream are an allusion with happiness.
The idea that you need to find happiness just shows how empty it truly is.

[kurandoinu]

So what, we should all be miserable and just deal with it?

[Osmo]

Ha.
I don't know the answer. But you and I weren't born miserable. I'm not miserable as much anymore, when I was, I felt there was happiness and dreams to achieve, that I need to get from A to B to be happy, "to make it" to be successful. Dreams are an allusion.

So what's the point?
I don't thing you can name me one thing that can make me happy for the rest of my life, it's short lived. People who strive for happiness are really just empty inside.
I feel more content knowing that it's pointless, all of it, does that mean I'm miserable? No.

[kurandoinu]

I like to have things to aim for, even if they're only small they give me a reason to be happy. But why does the result have to be the only thing that makes you happy? Surely the idea is that the journey should be full of smiles too. Obviously it won't be all smiles, because thats how life is.

Uni stresses me the hell out half the time. I never have any free time to do stuff like I used to, and sometimes I just wanna scream. But its so nice and worth it when I take that piece of work that I spent hours on into uni and everyone loves it, and when I can look at what I've done and be happy with it. I'm feeling that way today. Tired as hell but so pleased with my final pieces of work.

I must remember to start photographing lots of stuff for articles on my design blog when I get it up and running next week...

[Osmo]

I like to have things to aim for, even if they're only small they give me a reason to be happy. But why does the result have to be the only thing that makes you happy? Surely the idea is that the journey should be full of smiles too.

Exactly why only that?
The journey is more important then the end goal, maybe,

[Nikran]

I like to have things to aim for, even if they're only small they give me a reason to be happy. But why does the result have to be the only thing that makes you happy? Surely the idea is that the journey should be full of smiles too.

Exactly why only that?
The journey is more important then the end goal, maybe,

yep the journey is more important. But having a goal is needed to do your journeying in the frist place too =P

[Osmo]

Seems like I'm going in circles now rather then a goal.

What makes a journey more important then a goal?

[Nikran]

If you were given anything you wanted, whenever you wanted it, wouldn't that seem to make whatever you were given sort of empty?

Here's a better example, say you plan to get a game then fully complete it by doing everything possible in that game. What if instead when you got the game it happend to be already fully completeted. How long would you actually be happy with it at that point, an hour, a day maybe? The whole point was to take the time youself to achive all those things through effort and time devoted to it. This is my opinion on the matter at the least.

[Sakura90]

Hehe, my situation is considerable more fucked up. I started in Computer Engineering last year but now I don't like it anymore (in fact, I'm starting to hate it). Well, the thing is that I like clothes and languages... so it'll be "Clothing Design" (or Fashion Design, don't know how it's in other countries) or English Translator. And of course, courses of Japanese (a career about it isn't very profitable here =/). The thing is I been thinking all the afternoon and I can't make a decision. I'm stuck, dead end. Clothes are nice and cute... and English is also nice and cute (Japanese is a bit cuter though, but, oh well). From clothes... the "fashion and trends" thing sounds nice but a little scary at the same time... I've never been into that before, it's all new for me. And Translator... it has many things about Law in later years and I'm not sure I'd like them. I'm going to see some psychologist for "Vocational Orientation" (that's how it's called here) and see what I can do. Let's hope it's useful now, I've done that two years ago but it didn't work out very well . I've been talking with Borror0 too, he's a great guy

[mgz]

Well I was going to do a Psychology or sociology degree but they are the most unemployable degrees by fact, So I decided social work as a degree.

I'm going to be a social worker yeah!1

IMO switch it to criminal forms of what you were gonna go with then your extremely employable and along the same line of study