RPG's dying?

[Jesta23]

I have not played a good RPG since the tales entry on the 360 came out.

Am I just missing some little known game(s) or has the genre really slowed down to nothingness?


2 new FF titles are coming out in the next 6months. (I think.) Are there any other rpgs coming out for the holidays, or any that have came out in the last 3months that you are looking forward to, or have enjoyed already?

[wolkec]

lol, ff suck;
Good rpgs are like Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout, Diablo (II), ...
I'd wait for diablo II to be released

[AceHigh]

Yeah if Final Fantazy is the kind of RPG that is dying out, then I am going to celebrate.

[DaggerLite]

I wouldn't say that they're dying. I guess you're just not noticing them, because they're too common now a days. It depends on what kinds of role-playing games you're into. Most companies try different approaches to the typical single-player role-playing games now that there are a variety of devices to bring them to.

The following is a generic list just to prove my point, and will contain some games from a larger time-frame than you're after.

• MMORPGs are flourishing more now than ever before. "Aion" was not released too long ago (just about 3 months now).
• The "Disgaea" tactical role-playing games are quite popular on the PSP and PS3. The PSP recently got "Half-Minute Hero" which is a mix of strategy, traditional role-playing games and shooter. For the PC, "King's Bounty: Armored Princess" was recently released, a stand-alone expansion to the first King's Bounty.
• On the DS, action role-playing has been tested in a different format with "The World Ends With You." It also hosts a bunch of classical style bird's eye view role-playing games. "Phantasy Star" keeps pushing out new titles. "Might & Magic: Clash of Heroes" was also recently released on the little RPG-blessed device.
• FPS sandbox role-playing used in Bethesda's "Elder Scrolls" and "Fallout 3" were big hits, and they get DLC and mods made for them. Borderlands takes a slightly different approach, but is perhaps the most recent. The sandbox style is also being incorporated in some MMORPGs, "Mortal Online" being an upcoming title.
• Life simulation role-playing games like "Shin Megami Tensei: Persona 4" are a bit rare, but most RPG fans love this recent title.
• Hack and slash role-playing, many of them referred to as Diablo-clones, are flourishing on the PC. "Torchlight," for instance.
• The Xbox 360 and PS3 host big titles like "Bayonetta," "Fable II," "Demon Souls," "Uncharted 2 (Adventure, no character build-up, but still...)," "Dragon Age: Origins," "Dragon Quest IX"...
• Adventures like the "Castlevania" franchise on DS is not far from what I'd call role-playing as to how they've developed the games to contain a deeper storyline and levelling along with item drops. I'm sure there'll be more of those eventually.

[Carnivus]

No,RPGs are becoming rare and in-depth.Best PC examples include Oblivion,Mass Effect,The Witcher,Fallout 3,Dragon Age:Origins.There are great games,you should try them out.

[Nikran]

oblivion is just a source of controversy. i really don't like it anymore what so ever, morrowind was way superior to it.

[Carnivus]

oblivion is just a source of controversy. i really don't like it anymore what so ever, morrowind was way superior to it.

It really depends on 2 things.Liking sand-box style games,and having a powerful PC.That's all about it.

[Osmo]

lol, ff suck;
Good rpgs are like Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout, Diablo (II), ...
I'd wait for diablo II to be released

Blizzard take the piss with their releases, but they don't fail to release good stuff.

RTS > RPG.

I'm waiting for the best of both worlds; ME2 and starcraft II

[Carnivus]

lol, ff suck;
Good rpgs are like Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout, Diablo (II), ...
I'd wait for diablo II to be released

Blizzard take the piss with their releases, but they don't fail to release good stuff.

RTS > RPG.

I'm waiting for the best of both worlds; ME2 and starcraft II

I can say only that I love Bioware and Bethesda.

[Osmo]

lol, ff suck;
Good rpgs are like Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout, Diablo (II), ...
I'd wait for diablo II to be released

Blizzard take the piss with their releases, but they don't fail to release good stuff.

RTS > RPG.

I'm waiting for the best of both worlds; ME2 and starcraft II

I can say only that I love Bioware and Bethesda.

Bioware and Blizzard are my favourites all time.

Never heard of the other one though.

[Mirgond]

Na... Diablo is no RPG, it's an ARPG with more action than roleplaying.
If you want to play a RPG take a look at Baldur's Gate

Oh and Bethesda was the producer of "The Elder Scrolls"

[Carnivus]

lol, ff suck;
Good rpgs are like Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout, Diablo (II), ...
I'd wait for diablo II to be released

Blizzard take the piss with their releases, but they don't fail to release good stuff.

RTS > RPG.

I'm waiting for the best of both worlds; ME2 and starcraft II

I can say only that I love Bioware and Bethesda.

Bioware and Blizzard are my favourites all time.

Never heard of the other one though.

Diablo is hack and smash with some RPG in it.But you don't have any dialogue options and alternate endings like any modern RPG.

[kardz]

Yeah if Final Fantazy is the kind of RPG that is dying out, then I am going to celebrate.

I'm with this guy.

[kostya]

Yeah if Final Fantazy is the kind of RPG that is dying out, then I am going to celebrate.

I'm with this guy.

It depends on which Final Fantasy he is talking about. I rather enjoyed FF 4 and 6, not so much some of the newer 'main series' ones. Cristal Chronicles is a fun hack and slash.

There are plenty of good RPGs out there. Mario and Luigi 3, Super Paper Mario, Golden Sun 3 just off the top of my head from Nintendo.

As for you 'traditional' RPG aficionados, 4th edition came out recently enough. There will probably be games made using the rule set soon.

[Smokeyjr2]

The only RPG i really play is the Final Fantasy series i've played Tactics,7,8,9,10,12 most other RPG dont appeal to me. None of them are as good as the Final Fantasy series. I hope one day to have a FF7 tattoo!

[kardz]

The only RPG i really play is the Final Fantasy series i've played Tactics,7,8,9,10,12 most other RPG dont appeal to me. None of them are as good as the Final Fantasy series. I hope one day to have a FF7 tattoo!

best be trollan'

[shabutie]

I think he really means that JRPG's are dying.  (At least in quality.  Enchanted Arms was pretty bad.  I've heard mixed things about The Last Remnant. Infinite Undiscovery didn't score too high.  Heard good things about Magna Carta 2 and Tales of Vesperia though.)

I dunno though.


Bioware always puts out quality games (Personally, KoTOR and Dragon Age don't appeal to me, but I still acknowledge them as above average games)


Oblivion was cool, but compared to Morrowind it's really lacking.


I've been playing Eternal Sonata and Star Ocean: TLH recently.  They're decent, but SO:TLH isn't as good as Second Story or Till the End of Time.  A main problem I've always had with Star Ocean is I always get too caught up in the story and try to run past everything and not fight just to progress it ^_^.

One thing I don't like about Eternal Sonata is how linear it is so far (just started Chapter 2).



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Oh and Bethesda was the producer of "The Elder Scrolls"

It was produced and developed by Bethsoft


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I still hold the PS2 as a favorite of mine for JRPG's!  (SMT and SO3!)

[Jesta23]

I guess it is dying, since none of the games mentioned here are not the genre I am a fan of.

Elder scrolls, NWN etc are of no interest to me. The story is nearly non existent, and the combat is not nearly fun enough to play only for that. So that leaves only the character creation/build up, which can be quite enjoyable, with out the other 2, its not enough. I guess these would be the true RPG however.

FF style rpgs, such as the tales series, suikoden series, star ocean series, etc. are the ones I really enjoy. I guess JRPG is what I should call them.


MMO's are a genre of their own, I wouldnt even mention them with RPG's. And they are fun, I enjoyed wow entirely to much. And I played aion for some time. But they require to much time. The only way I play them is if i can bot past the grind and then enjoy the end game with friends. (which aion finally put a stop to.)


ARPG are also of their own genre, I woudlnt call diablo or any of their clones a RPG. They are solely ARPG.

Lastly, SRPG's, I love these, but they are also dying off. Disgaea is the only decent one to come out since Suikoden tactics. The problem with this genre is the everyone wants to add something new to a formula that was fine the way it is. You dont try to add an orange to an apple pie to make it fresh and new. You just stick with apples and enjoy it for what it is.
Alot of the combat changes they add only end up being tedious and unwanted. Stick to the system in FFtactics and no one would complain other then reviewers. Anything with special tiles that give bonus's is a bad idea. Other then height. Geo panels, which seems to be common place now is really fucking annoying.


EDIT another rant, while im going...

JRPGS are suffering the same fate as srpgs. FF was doing great, they kept the core formula that made the series fun and made minor changes and added small things as they went. Until 12, which almost any fan can agree was the worst of any of the series. They changed to much, got rid of the tried and true ATB and butchered the game with the new system. The story was ok, but nothing spectacular which is another staple of FF games. The story should be on of the major driving forces in a rpg. Like someone said earlier, they rush through the SO games just to see the ending. Any good RPG should have you tied up in the story to the point you have to see how it ends.

Enough ranting i guess, sorry this got so long. I doubt anyone made it this far, but I needed to cry my fanboy tears alittle

[kardz]

Tbh, I found Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3 (not the previous ones, those ones were actually fucking great) really fucking boring.

I enjoyed DA:O even though the story isn't exactly new but the world is fun, the game suffers from being a BioWare product. And no that isn't exactly a bad thing but if you've played enough BiOWare games you'd know what I mean.

I dug up my copy of Suikoden 2, now there's a game that's pretty decent.

[Drew]

RPGs will be around until the end of humanity. It's in our nature to want to take on the roll of somebody else, somebody greater than ourselves. We strive to be the best, and as long as we remain human, we'll continue to strive for that. So, until humanity becomes something beyond human, RPGs will remain.