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RPG's dying?
Proin Drakenzol:
--- Quote from: rheffera on December 28, 2009, 04:10:45 AM ---If DA:origins is anything to go on, yes. The genre is dead to anyone who is over the age of 16.
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As there is no way this position could possibly be supported (as it is inherently false) I demand your specious reasoning be posted to the internet so that we may heckle and ridicule you.
kardz:
--- Quote from: Jesta23 on December 28, 2009, 08:29:37 PM ---
--- Quote from: kyanwan on December 28, 2009, 07:47:24 PM ---They're just cookie-cuttering the same crap out over and over. No innovation at all.
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I never understood the reason behind this.
Lets take the most popular game in America for example. Football.
30 years ago, it was almost the same as it is today. The only thing that has changed is the presentation of it. Football is fun, they know this, so they dont go out of their way to try and innovate on its game play, and come up with new ideas to to make it better. They take the current game, and replay it, giving it new story lines each year. (different teams doing better or worse each year.)
Of course football is not a video game, but why do video games have to be different? why cant something be fun just because its fun?
If you took any old rpg that was really fun, cloned it exactly, and only changed the story, the characters, and the graphics engine. It would be another best seller. It would be a fantastic game. And most importantly, it would be fun again.
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Then you didn't clone it exactly, you changed it completely.
Jesta23:
--- Quote from: kardz on December 29, 2009, 05:55:58 AM ---
Then you didn't clone it exactly, you changed it completely.
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Not the mechanics. Which is what a game really boils down to.
Look at the halo series, very little has changed over the 3 installments. Other then story. Yet if an RPG tried to do the same thing, it would be trashed for lacking innovation. And called a cookie cutter game.
agentspliff:
I miss the old days of D&D. 4th Edition is, well... let's just say imho Pathfinder is was 4e should have been. I wasn't a *big* fan of 3e, being a 1st/2nd DM, but it wasn't bad, and I used it a couple times to get non-gamers into it as a gateway D&D. 4e tossed the baby out with the bathwater. And regardless of what Hasbro told us, the real reason wasn't to fix D&D or make it appeal to a wider audience, but rather to force people to buy more books.
As far as RPGs on PC/consoles.... yeah, Planescape and Baldur's Gate are my faves, though I'll grant Dragon Age has it's moments, Fallout 3 is really nice, and I like Mass Effect. JRPGs on console though seem to have been dragging. I liked Chronotrigger, FF6, 7, and FF tactics, but after that it seemed that they started aiming at style over substance. Don't get me wrong, there have been some interesting games, but... nothing really spectacular.
I'll admit, my Ps3 exists for fighting games. Nothing else on console really has gotten my attention since the PS2 era. (God, let them make Chronotrigger 3 or something...)
Proin Drakenzol:
--- Quote from: agentspliff on December 30, 2009, 02:42:10 AM ---I miss the old days of D&D. 4th Edition is, well... let's just say imho Pathfinder is was 4e should have been. I wasn't a *big* fan of 3e, being a 1st/2nd DM, but it wasn't bad, and I used it a couple times to get non-gamers into it as a gateway D&D. 4e tossed the baby out with the bathwater. And regardless of what Hasbro told us, the real reason wasn't to fix D&D or make it appeal to a wider audience, but rather to force people to buy more books.
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I think 4e is far better than 3/3.5e and way closer to 2e than 3e ever was. I also think that Pathfinder is total garbage, but I always thought Paizo's stuff has kind of sucked giant donkey balls.
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