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RPG's dying?
Proin Drakenzol:
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--- Quote from: TorturdChaos on January 04, 2010, 01:27:42 AM ---Personally I think they are dying out. I guess I should clarify what I think of when I think RPG - because a lot of games list don't stick with me as RPG's. I'm thinking of the Final Fantasy's, Shadowhearts, Star Ocean, Chrono Trigger & Cross - and Kingdom Hearts (more or less) - games like that. While I love diablo 2, I don't really consider that style of game an RPG - nor do I consider Oblivion or Dragon Age an RPG - although I'm not sure what to call them. Nor are Devil May Cry or God of War style games and RPG in my opinion. More of an Action Adventure.
I actually was just thinking the the other day - man I haven't seen a good RPG in a long time. maybe its just that my definition of RPG hasn't changed since I was 13 or so and first played FF7 and was hooked. But I have agree my idea of a good classic RPG hasn't been put out in a while, and its rather depressing... :(
I mean when i look up RPG on GameFAQs i do see Baldur's Gate, Aion, Diablo 1,2 &3, Dragon Age, Fable and so forth- but that doesn't stick in the classic RPG category with me :(
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Also -
Making a clone of the mechanics of a game does not guarantee a great RPG (not hit or top seller, but great. It may be a top seller just because its riding the success of its predecessor)
Take Legend of Legia for example - first was was great IMO. The whole Arts system of combat was well thought out, and different from anything around at the time - and I think is what really made the game, without the Arts system it wasn't a block buster game. If they had tried the same game with a standard turn bases system, I think it would have failed.
Now take Legia 2. New story, same combat mechanics. But the story felt kinda lack luster i guess. Didn't hold up to the first one. Same innovative combat system, but not as great of a game.
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What the fuck did I just read?
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Words.
So explain your confusion with the English language if you have them.
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Did you even notice the part where I highlighted?
He just pretty much generalized that JRPG's are the only RPG's, & P&P rpg based games aren't "RPG".
Jesus christ the amount of pure ignorance in that post is enough to make any gamer who wasn't born in the 00's rage. I'm not a fanboy and I think all fanboys should really go on and suck a cock or something, I enjoy JRPG's as much as WRPG's.
RPG's aren't about the fancy FMV's and stupid beautifully rendered cut scenes, it's about role-fucking playing. I "enjoyed" most of the FF titles but let's be honest they've been cranking out the same generic hashed up shitty plot for way too many games now but fanboys are too busy eating up anything that comes out SE even if its bad therefore SE really doesn't need to change their shit if they can sell million of copies of a terrible game.
FFXIII came out recently in Japan and so far most reviews are pretty negative citing it as the most linear and the only good parts are unlocked after 30 or so hours of gameplay which is pretty much near the end of the game. Basically you're put in a straight path and can't explore, can't backtrack, there's no towns you move from point a to z in a straight path.
tl;dr - dishes and chores.
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I know that, I wanted to know what you didn't tear him a new asshole instead of just going "What?"
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I noticed this bullshit, too.
WTF kind of retard defines RPGs by those games that are furthest from the core of the genre?
Although, Diablo II isn't really much of an RPG, but primarily in the same ways that Japanese RPGs such as Final Fantasy aren't RPGs.
TheProfileth:
Some one mentioned "fallout", "rpgs" and "dying"?
Well first of all I will not allow anyone to say that Fallout 3 is a good RPG unless you consider Brutal Legend a good RTS. It is a FPS with RPG trappings nothing more. Fallout 2 is still my favorite game of all time. If they had made Fallout 3 without the fallout license and under a different name my insane furious hate for Fallout 3 would not be as much. Another good RPG series is Heroes of Might and Magic, the 4th game is my favorite but they are all good. I don't think rpgs are dying I think all genres of games are dying and the modern consumer is to stupid to buy something that has quality, (fucking itouch, my ZuneHD is just as good) now I am just ranting I gotta go kill something to let off this anger.
kardz:
Should have been called Post-Apcalyptic FPS with RPG elements: The Game
MammalSauce:
Define "RPG".
AceHigh:
--- Quote from: MammalSauce on January 11, 2010, 02:49:04 PM ---Define "RPG".
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Role Playing Game. Basically a game where you play a character which you create using a set of rules for combat and social interaction. That is by the way what real RPG are anyway, be it pen and paper or pc based.
I don't need to tell that in P&P the freedom and storyline is limited to imagination of players, although a gamemaster may limit that by guiding players back to his planned storyline if they stray too far.
Pc games that get closest to the roleplay element are the ones that have an open world, have a set of rules for skill usage, have a main storyline, yet do not restrict a player to it, have a stat improvement element and should have a bunch of side quests to give the illusion of the freedom the P&P actually have.
Many games have more or less of those things, for me the one that has most of them is the "truest" RPG. For example Elder scrolls games are all sandbox games and have stat buiding, but they are controlled like FPS which make them less "playing a role of your character" and more "take direct control of him and use your own reaction skills". On other hand games like Icewind Dale and Fallout Tactics have stat building and is oriented around combat neglecting the social aspect making them tactical games rather then RPG.
Ofcourse you have that piece of stinking shit of Japanese games made obviosly in a society of little free thinking, making you follow a narrow path, slaying many things containing only one fucking element of the RPG which is stat building and a few dialog option which will lead you to nothing other then one result anyway.
--- Quote from: TorturdChaos on January 04, 2010, 01:27:42 AM ---I mean when i look up RPG on GameFAQs i do see Baldur's Gate, Aion, Diablo 1,2 &3, Dragon Age, Fable and so forth- but that doesn't stick in the classic RPG category with me :(
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As I already strongly hinted in a post above this quote: Eat shit and die.
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