Author Topic: Popular PC parts, etc. (Read 2725 times)

Mikan · « **on:** December 31, 2009, 05:26:53 PM »

My dad & his brother are going back into import/export & Freight to south america, and put me in charge of getting stock that WILL sell.
Except im not completely sure what pc parts are good sellers or not. things will be sold US/Brazil so mid range I suppose. I was looking at NVIDIA & Intel Not too sure about ATI (every ATI pc I had lagged gfx)

Reccomandations on Motherboards & Gpu's please?

Side note: theyre also opening a gaming sales site, and put me incharge of stock (again hiss)

I put this together (need comments on it)

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Price's Right? lol

Another thing!

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HAPPY NEW YEARS EVERYBODY!

nstgc · « **Reply #1 on:** January 01, 2010, 02:06:39 AM »

Where exactly is this store (city)?

Mikan · « **Reply #2 on:** January 01, 2010, 07:14:39 AM »

Quote from: nstgc on January 01, 2010, 02:06:39 AM

Where exactly is this store (city)?

It's going to be online. within the next month or two. It wont have a physical storefront except maybe for local pickup (Miami, FL)
- I think I made prices too high -

Mini Mikan-rant:

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vuzedome · « **Reply #3 on:** January 01, 2010, 12:35:51 PM »

This be a family business?

Mikan · « **Reply #4 on:** January 01, 2010, 10:49:54 PM »

Quote from: vuzedome on January 01, 2010, 12:35:51 PM

This be a family business?

Yessir it is

mgz · « **Reply #5 on:** January 03, 2010, 10:02:22 AM »

why not do the logical thing and tell them you dont know and have them look around at a site like new egg, and go a little over a site like that, or under depending on the margins your looking at and method of getting stock.

Excale · « **Reply #6 on:** January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM »

Stocks.....companie s that sell budget computer parts with the quality to actually "live" will succeed in this economy. Intel will win for the big companies looking for strong CPUs (Intel Core i7 ring a bell?) vs the average consumer who will buy the cheapest/cheapest+reliability, AMD. Currently AMD is not doing well in the stocks but you should expect a surge due to Intel losing to a lawsuit and "In November 2009, Intel agreed to pay AMD $1.25bn and renew a five-year patent cross-licensing agreement as part of a deal to settle all outstanding legal disputes between them." Also, Intel is being fined "Korea Fair Trade Commission issuing Intel a fine of US$25.4 million.". Probably ain't the best idea to invest in a company who is being fined/sued day in and day-out. My flame against AMD is that they are losing their market share http://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html . If they do not pick up their market share quickly then they will lose their foothold in the CPU market, making us doomed to Intel's high prices+monoply. As with Motherboards and Graphics cards?
People are aiming for "best value for performance". Best example is the ATI HD 4670. It outperforms a 9600gt available at 100$ vs $80. 20$ difference means a lot now, 2-days worth of food.
GPU and MB Recs:
Aiming for things NOT at the top.
AMD/ATI=good for budget (aka, midstream)
Why not Intel? Who here needs 8 threads. For simple games a dual-core is perfectly fine. From Intel,E3300 vs 245 regor, same price, but AMD has 400mhz more, ValuexPerformance will dominate this economy as we are taking a downturn.
Why not Nvidia? Nvidia forcing MB manufacturers to use their specific chips and what-not forcing the market to be clamped, affecting gamers and the mainstream. Integrated graphics are set and aimed at the mainstream market to provide your everyday websurfing, ATI/AMD having a good portion of their chipsets/MBs with one.
Online Webstore? -My suggestion is to first start advertising like crazy (like wat I am now with our group) to actually get somewhere. Nxt, offer WHAT HAS REVIEWS ONLINE, with you linking to them. People will buy things that are reviewed so they can make sure their money will be well-spent.

NaRu · « **Reply #7 on:** January 07, 2010, 05:04:54 AM »

Hey good luck with your store!

mgz · « **Reply #8 on:** January 07, 2010, 11:32:40 AM »

Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM

Stocks.....companies that sell budget computer parts with the quality to actually "live" will succeed in this economy. Intel will win for the big companies looking for strong CPUs (Intel Core i7 ring a bell?) vs the average consumer who will buy the cheapest/cheapest+reliability, AMD. Currently AMD is not doing well in the stocks but you should expect a surge due to Intel losing to a lawsuit and "In November 2009, Intel agreed to pay AMD $1.25bn and renew a five-year patent cross-licensing agreement as part of a deal to settle all outstanding legal disputes between them." Also, Intel is being fined "Korea Fair Trade Commission issuing Intel a fine of US$25.4 million.". Probably ain't the best idea to invest in a company who is being fined/sued day in and day-out. My flame against AMD is that they are losing their market share http://www.cpubenchmark.net/market_share.html . If they do not pick up their market share quickly then they will lose their foothold in the CPU market, making us doomed to Intel's high prices+monoply. As with Motherboards and Graphics cards?
People are aiming for "best value for performance". Best example is the ATI HD 4670. It outperforms a 9600gt available at 100$ vs $80. 20$ difference means a lot now, 2-days worth of food.
GPU and MB Recs:
Aiming for things NOT at the top.
AMD/ATI=good for budget (aka, midstream)
Why not Intel? Who here needs 8 threads. For simple games a dual-core is perfectly fine. From Intel,E3300 vs 245 regor, same price, but AMD has 400mhz more, ValuexPerformance will dominate this economy as we are taking a downturn.
Why not Nvidia? Nvidia forcing MB manufacturers to use their specific chips and what-not forcing the market to be clamped, affecting gamers and the mainstream. Integrated graphics are set and aimed at the mainstream market to provide your everyday websurfing, ATI/AMD having a good portion of their chipsets/MBs with one.
Online Webstore? -My suggestion is to first start advertising like crazy (like wat I am now with our group) to actually get somewhere. Nxt, offer WHAT HAS REVIEWS ONLINE, with you linking to them. People will buy things that are reviewed so they can make sure their money will be well-spent.

suggesting people not invest in intel is fucking stupid, currently they make some of the best chips out there, the reason they are being sued is because they run their business like you would expect a cutthroat multi billion dollar business should be run.

Its not fair but it makes money thats intel

psyren · « **Reply #9 on:** January 07, 2010, 02:32:36 PM »

Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM

Why not Intel? Who here needs 8 threads. For simple games a dual-core is perfectly fine. From Intel,E3300 vs 245 regor, same price, but AMD has 400mhz more, ValuexPerformance will dominate this economy as we are taking a downturn.

Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM

AMD has 400mhz more

Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM

400mhz more

Wow. Just stop posting now. Find a black plastic bag. Place your opinions into it. Followed by your head. Do not remove bag until directed.

zat0x91 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 07, 2010, 08:41:42 PM »

Who the fuck said to get the AMD because it had 400mhz more, you don't know ANYTHING.

Quote from: Mikan on December 31, 2009, 05:26:53 PM

I was looking at NVIDIA & Intel Not too sure about ATI (every ATI pc I had lagged gfx)

Yeah, because every ATI card is the same as the one you've had.

The ATI HD 5000 series are extremely good, better than anything Nvidia has out right now.

fohfoh · « **Reply #11 on:** January 07, 2010, 08:53:45 PM »

Quote from: psyren on January 07, 2010, 02:32:36 PM

Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
Why not Intel? Who here needs 8 threads. For simple games a dual-core is perfectly fine. From Intel,E3300 vs 245 regor, same price, but AMD has 400mhz more, ValuexPerformance will dominate this economy as we are taking a downturn.
Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
AMD has 400mhz more
Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
400mhz more
Wow. Just stop posting now. Find a black plastic bag. Place your opinions into it. Followed by your head. Do not remove bag until directed.

* fohfoh stares at comment in awe.

* fohfoh rolls around on floor laughing outrageously

sdedalus83 · « **Reply #12 on:** January 07, 2010, 09:19:43 PM »

Quote from: psyren on January 07, 2010, 02:32:36 PM

Wow. Just stop posting now. Find a black plastic bag. Place your opinions into it. Followed by your head. Do not remove bag until directed.

*Josh gives psy a big sloppy kiss*

mgz · « **Reply #13 on:** January 07, 2010, 09:27:47 PM »

Quote from: fohfoh on January 07, 2010, 08:53:45 PM

Quote from: psyren on January 07, 2010, 02:32:36 PM
Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
Why not Intel? Who here needs 8 threads. For simple games a dual-core is perfectly fine. From Intel,E3300 vs 245 regor, same price, but AMD has 400mhz more, ValuexPerformance will dominate this economy as we are taking a downturn.
Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
AMD has 400mhz more
Quote from: Excale on January 07, 2010, 01:59:46 AM
400mhz more
Wow. Just stop posting now. Find a black plastic bag. Place your opinions into it. Followed by your head. Do not remove bag until directed.
* fohfoh stares at comment in awe.
* fohfoh rolls around on floor laughing outrageously

look at it this way, i guess marketing does work

Jarudin · « **Reply #14 on:** January 08, 2010, 11:06:38 PM »

Are you going to sell pre-built PCs or just parts?

--Jarudin--

geoffreak · « **Reply #15 on:** January 08, 2010, 11:23:54 PM »

I would assume they are selling just parts.

Also, the reason everyone is suggesting completely different types of parts is because we don't know the market being targeted. Are you going after high-end or low-end parts? Business users, gamers, or casual users?

Whoever says AMD is better than Intel can go die (after the person who said 400 more MHz was better). I'm not an Intel fanboy in any form, but I can tell you that AMD is providing little to no innovative competition. Think of AMD being the budget knock-off of Intel; The product's price is lower, but the quality is even more so. That said, AMD isn't a bad option if you are selling to a low-end market.

Both ATI and NVIDIA are very close to each other when it comes to price and quality, so just listen to which brand your customers prefer and just focus more on the quality of the card rather than the brand.

Finally, peripherals are a great way to keep your customers coming back. Inexpensive odds and ends such as mice, keyboards, webcams, and especially cables can be easily marked up after being found cheap. These are also good ways to allow your customers to "try out" the purchasing experience with your company prior to purchasing more expensive equipment.

PS: Avoid selling monitors like the plague. There are so many things that can wrong with a monitor from dead pixels to simple customer error that will make the customer want to return or replace it. Regardless of the outcome, the customer will not be pleased with the experience.

wolkec · « **Reply #16 on:** January 09, 2010, 12:11:57 PM »

Quote from: geoffreak on January 08, 2010, 11:23:54 PM

PS: Avoid selling monitors like the plague. There are so many things that can wrong with a monitor from dead pixels to simple customer error that will make the customer want to return or replace it. Regardless of the outcome, the customer will not be pleased with the experience.

Same could go for discs but people still need them.
And i think selling monitors is a good idea

Mikan · « **Reply #17 on:** January 09, 2010, 11:21:43 PM »

Quote from: Jarudin on January 08, 2010, 11:06:38 PM

Are you going to sell pre-built PCs or just parts?

--Jarudin--

A mix of both, the-built will be manufacturer built nothing customized, complete OEM. pc parts of course will be stocked with various major brands, mid range and up. nothing crappy... we will also be selling consoles & games once we figure a way to pass it through customs without paying a outrageous fee that they have in Brazil, otherwise things have been set for the site's themselves along with something hopefully innovative enough to get customers (build your own custom psp/DS. basically choose shell & what you want on it, in turn you get a estimate cost on the item if you want to buy it with your selected features) but that will be available to U.S not brazil.

For monitors & Disc's i guess it can be avoided if you avoid the bad quality companies, stick with samsung, etc.. and disc's can be avoided if you just ship it right.

bork · « **Reply #18 on:** January 16, 2010, 01:51:42 AM »

Drew · « **Reply #19 on:** January 16, 2010, 07:36:02 AM »

Well, if you want things that are going to sell, stick with Intel for CPU and AMD (ATI) for GPU. It seems that AMD just doesn't give a fuck about the CPU market at all, and on the graphics side of things, nVidia appears to be straying away from more mainstream uses of their GPUs, structuring it more towards the high-end business/research markets - and leaving everyone else, including gamers - their biggest customer base - out in the cold. That's really the only advice I've got for you. Good luck! The hardware market can be really rough.