Author Topic: Gunslinger Girl on BD (Read 2010 times)

kenshin-dono · « **on:** January 13, 2010, 02:24:56 AM »

has anyone checked the BD of this? I had the original on my HD a long time ago (when it first came out) but never watched it. Im gonna give it a quick look and see if its worth snagging. Its on sale for 30 bucks for the BD of season 1 right now so i figured i may give it a look. Im not asking about the series, im asking about the BD quality. Im not really finding any reviews of it and its a fairly old series, im not really sure if it would gain anything from going BD. Is it just a half assed upscale or what?

has anyone snagged it or seen it? was gonna buy some stuff tomorow and not sure if i should throw this on the list or just snag the DVD. Not a big price difference.

Zalis116 · « **Reply #1 on:** January 13, 2010, 03:00:57 AM »

http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=94981
http://www.mania.com/aodvb/showthread.php?t=93974

Apparently it's an upscale, at least for the first season. But the release has been pushed back to March, so no one's seen it yet.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #2 on:** January 13, 2010, 07:01:26 AM »

sadly l only seen the first season of this show, l liked it a lot, but for some reason never had the chance to watch the second one, l think it's about time l did watch it :]

kenshin-dono · « **Reply #3 on:** January 13, 2010, 08:12:47 PM »

ah, well that would explain why i coudn't find reviews for it, lol. I didn't notice it was a preorder.

the fansubs i have from back in the day seem to be a mix of anbu and AONE they're very odd looking. it says theyre 4:3 on ADB, but when i play them theres odd grey bars with designs on the top and bottom making it look like its widescreen or something in a ghetto letterbox format

what the heck are these suposed to be? The blu ray shows it being a 4:3 ratio, while the DVD's show a 16:9... which is it? its very odd the BD and DVD are shown as different AR's. I checked ADB and it lists them as 4:3, so its very strange that the DVD's are listed as 16:9. Did they crop it to gheto widescreen it like they did for the Kenshin OVA directors cut?

I would consider just getting the DVDs for now but i may wait for the BD's, the only thing that has me wondering is this widescreen thing

and btw havoc i heard the first seasons the only good one. A lot of people seemed to hate the 2nd season for some reason. I think they just do their own thing and ignore the manga or something

Aneroph · « **Reply #4 on:** January 13, 2010, 09:15:33 PM »

Quote from: kenshin-dono on January 13, 2010, 08:12:47 PM

and btw havoc i heard the first seasons the only good one. A lot of people seemed to hate the 2nd season for some reason. I think they just do their own thing and ignore the manga or something

First and second season anime have a lot of scenes out of order compared to the manga actually. The manga is incredible, but the 2nd season of the anime wasn't great at all. They switched out all the voice actors, gave it a happier mood, and ruined the entire ending to the first season.

I really hope for a widescreen version of the BD for this series, but I was let down with 4:3 BD for Eureka Seven so I expect nothing less from another of my favorites.

I really wouldn't mind a 3rd season of this anime if they did it properly. Petrushka is one of my favorite characters in the manga, but the anime didn't get far enough to introduce her.

kenshin-dono · « **Reply #5 on:** January 13, 2010, 10:22:44 PM »

Quote from: Aneroph on January 13, 2010, 09:15:33 PM

Quote from: kenshin-dono on January 13, 2010, 08:12:47 PM
and btw havoc i heard the first seasons the only good one. A lot of people seemed to hate the 2nd season for some reason. I think they just do their own thing and ignore the manga or something
First and second season anime have a lot of scenes out of order compared to the manga actually. The manga is incredible, but the 2nd season of the anime wasn't great at all. They switched out all the voice actors, gave it a happier mood, and ruined the entire ending to the first season.

I really hope for a widescreen version of the BD for this series, but I was let down with 4:3 BD for Eureka Seven so I expect nothing less from another of my favorites.

I really wouldn't mind a 3rd season of this anime if they did it properly. Petrushka is one of my favorite characters in the manga, but the anime didn't get far enough to introduce her.

happier mood? From what i read the whole point is its a pretty dark and depressing situation/story. That seems really odd

Maybe if i enjoy it i'll check out the manga

what is the show SUPPOSED to be? widescreen or 4:3? im really confused. Im not sure why the BD would be 4:3 and the DVD's would be widescreen, that makes no sense to me

Aneroph · « **Reply #6 on:** January 13, 2010, 10:42:12 PM »

Yes, the whole point was to be dark and depressing....hence why the second season sucked because they tried to make it happy.

From what I can tell, S1 is 4:3 and S2 is Widscreen in DVD. BD will most likely follow suit.

kenshin-dono · « **Reply #7 on:** January 13, 2010, 10:56:41 PM »

then if season 1 is supposed to be 4:3 why the heck are the DVD releases listed as 16:9? Thats the part that has me screwed up and not sure what to purchase

Zalis116 · « **Reply #8 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:25:05 AM »

I've never seen any TV-fansubs for Gunslinger Girl S1, just the R1 DVDs and bits and pieces of the anime.fin DVD-rips. My guess is that S1 was broadcast with a 4:3 image, with letterboxing/decorative bars to frame the actual show. Since the actual animation was drawn/made in 16:9, the DVDs were made in 16:9. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary when watching the DVDs, although it's been about 3-4 years since I've seen the show. I don't know why the BD's would be 4:3. Maybe they're going to be like the broadcasts, maybe there's a mistake in the info, who knows. We'll have to wait till they come out.

Quote from: Aneroph

I really hope for a widescreen version of the BD for this series, but I was let down with 4:3 BD for Eureka Seven so I expect nothing less from another of my favorites.

Why would you want a 16:9 version of Eureka 7? The show was made in 4:3, so unless they went back and re-did the animation (unlikely), any 16:9 version would be cropped or stretched, neither of which is a good option.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #9 on:** January 14, 2010, 07:09:47 AM »

l actually really enjoyed the S1 ending, it was very fitting, but l'll watch the S2 nonetheless, the girls situation is quite sad if you think about it, at least one of them would rather die than continue on living, but l think it was a really good point of view at the same time,
l'm currently DLing ED version, dual audio so l'll have to kick out the english dub (wich most likely is horrible as usual, but l will not even try) and probably watch it on sunday.

Zalis116 · « **Reply #10 on:** January 14, 2010, 08:16:34 AM »

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l'm currently DLing ED version, dual audio so l'll have to kick out the english dub (which most likely is horrible as usual, but l will not even try) and probably watch it on sunday.

Way to exercise pre-emptive blind judgment there. Again it's been awhile, but I remember the dub as being pretty good. There's no Japanese names to stumble over, no Japanese jokes to write around, and no Japanese cultural concepts to localize. So thanks to the nature of the show, Gunslinger Girl's dub has the advantage of avoiding several common dub pitfalls.

Aneroph · « **Reply #11 on:** January 14, 2010, 08:23:02 AM »

Quote from: Zalis116 on January 14, 2010, 08:16:34 AM

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l'm currently DLing ED version, dual audio so l'll have to kick out the english dub (which most likely is horrible as usual, but l will not even try) and probably watch it on sunday.
Way to exercise pre-emptive blind judgment there. Again it's been awhile, but I remember the dub as being pretty good. There's no Japanese names to stumble over, no Japanese jokes to write around, and no Japanese cultural concepts to localize. So thanks to the nature of the show, Gunslinger Girl's dub has the advantage of avoiding several common dub pitfalls.

Yeah, Japanese is always better to me, but the dubs for GG were actually very good.

@zalis: The Eurek Seven BD thing was just my extremely wishful thinking for full reanimation to make HD lol.

Xiong Chiamiov · « **Reply #12 on:** January 14, 2010, 09:25:24 AM »

Quote from: Havoc10K on January 13, 2010, 07:01:26 AM

sadly l only seen the first season of this show, l liked it a lot, but for some reason never had the chance to watch the second one, l think it's about time l did watch it :]

Il Teatrino was one of the worst anime I've ever seen. It was actually quite painful to watch.

The good thing about it was that the long pause between Triad dropping it and someone else picking it up got me to start reading the manga, which is really good (at least for a while; it starts getting a little repetitive in the last few chapters). If you like GSG, you should really check it out.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #13 on:** January 14, 2010, 12:05:23 PM »

l have to say it, that sadly, no matter what good VA in dubs is (english dubs that is) l simply hate them by nature, dunno why.

Neco · « **Reply #14 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:41:57 PM »

I don't have a problem with the second season. People are far too judgemental IMHO. It wasn't done by the same studio, and had nowhere near the budget the first season had. Blame whoever arranged for that to happen instead. The only problem I have with the second season is that it is slow in the beginning, and only picks up towards the middle / end.

The ending was quite satisfying, and if anyone thinks that its a "happy ending" as they are typically known, they likely have a screw loose.. The OVA episodes on the other hand, carry a far more lighthearted tone.

Havoc10K · « **Reply #15 on:** January 14, 2010, 01:44:27 PM »

l'm gonna watch it on sunday at work l guess. If it wil lDl, 6-12 kbps from E-D torrent batch

indifference · « **Reply #16 on:** January 14, 2010, 10:34:02 PM »

The second season doesn't have the same feel or animation of the first. I would of been really let down, having been so moved by the first season, if I hadn't got warning from other people. It was a cool idea, but it just wasn't carried out properly. Don't take that as a reason not to watch it though. It's entertaining.

A third season could be awesome too....

Xiong Chiamiov · « **Reply #17 on:** January 14, 2010, 11:30:19 PM »

As I said elsewhere:

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Quote from: kasgune
This may be a little different for most peoples tastes, but come on this is a great story, a very good twist on assassin anime if I say so.
None of us are downing GSG, because it is a fantastic story. The producers of this show, however, seem to not think so, as they carved the storyline up into pieces and reassembled it as a Frankenstein`s monster.

They changed the personalities of the characters, managed to make emotional scenes cold, and added another character (who is, btw, the flattest character I've ever seen in an anime) for no apparent reason.

*deep breaths*

Ok, I've had my say. I'll leave you in peace now.

kenshin-dono · « **Reply #18 on:** January 17, 2010, 08:47:01 AM »

Quote from: Zalis116 on January 14, 2010, 01:25:05 AM

I've never seen any TV-fansubs for Gunslinger Girl S1, just the R1 DVDs and bits and pieces of the anime.fin DVD-rips. My guess is that S1 was broadcast with a 4:3 image, with letterboxing/decorative bars to frame the actual show. Since the actual animation was drawn/made in 16:9, the DVDs were made in 16:9. I didn't notice anything out of the ordinary when watching the DVDs, although it's been about 3-4 years since I've seen the show. I don't know why the BD's would be 4:3. Maybe they're going to be like the broadcasts, maybe there's a mistake in the info, who knows. We'll have to wait till they come out.

Quote from: Aneroph
I really hope for a widescreen version of the BD for this series, but I was let down with 4:3 BD for Eureka Seven so I expect nothing less from another of my favorites.
Why would you want a 16:9 version of Eureka 7? The show was made in 4:3, so unless they went back and re-did the animation (unlikely), any 16:9 version would be cropped or stretched, neither of which is a good option.

anyone know if this is indeed the case? My old fansubs were VERY strange, i guess you could view it as widescreen with an odd decorative boarder just to air in regular 4:3 without cropping.

Still i would rather have it just be 16:9 instead of some screwy looking boarder for a screwy letterbox thing. I guess i'll have to wait for the BD's and see what they are. If it says 4:3 then maybe they just do the boarder thing?

It sounds like the DVDs at least are definatly 16:9 with no letterbox tricks. When the BD comes out i'll try to see what they did

Anyone know a decent anime BD/DVD review site i can keep an eye out on this for?

as far as the dub argument, i never just totally dismiss a dub. Some are pretty decent. Cowboy bebop is one of the few shows i actually prefer dubbed. The Hunter X Hunter dub would be awesome if it wasn't for Gon's voice. They totally F'd that up, but everyone else ranges from decent to great. Hisoka especially suprised the crap outa me. I figured theyd screw it up because of his strange fruity sounding voice that fluctuates from jovial, psychoic, fruity constantly but they nailed it. They really jacked gon up though he sounds like a 40 year old woman who smokes 4 packs a day

Also the fact that almost no anime is ever 5.1 with the japanese track makes me at least give the 5.1 english track a shot sometimes

vuzedome · « **Reply #19 on:** January 17, 2010, 11:35:15 AM »

Its 16:9, 5.1ch audio.