Mass Effect 2

[sneg]

Love it. Action is so much better than in the first part.

[kenshin-dono]

Yeah,I know.
I was referring to the redesigned points system,that RPG system.It basically removes all the epicness of ME1's leveling points.I mean,when I first saw all those powers and didn't know where to put my first points...

Dang that sucks. I assumed I would aquire new abilities or something as I went through the game, but it sounds like I will only have this tiny skill list though it all. Definitely liked the ME1 system better if that is the case.

wait.. what? you dont get skill point to distribute at lvl up? that would be really dumb if thats the case.

About the DLC crap... well im just glad it was free for me. I REALLY hate EA. Theyre horible for the game industry. "Oh gee, other companies are making better football games than us. Should we make maden better? Nah, f it. Just buy the NFL licence." They also rape you horribly for DLC as you see here. I was unbelivably saddened to hear they got Bioware, and actually didn't plan on buying ME2 at all. Theyve improved themselves slightly though so i will probably snag it, but i still cant stand them



to those who have played, is there a checklist of what the key points from teh ME1 save are? Penny-arcade made me think there was but then the dev posted that it was a test kit he was playing on, and the final version probably wont have such a list.

Barring that, anyone aware of a guide out there that lists what they are so when i replay 1 i can make sure i do what i want to carry over? (been too long since i played i gotta replay with most of the chars i want to transfer over, i have like 5 or 6 of them)

All in all the stuff ive been hearing is not so good. I hear theres almost no gear upgrades and this thing you guys are talking about the skill upgrade system has me worried

[Sosseres]

wait.. what? you dont get skill point to distribute at lvl up? that would be really dumb if thats the case.

Barring that, anyone aware of a guide out there that lists what they are so when i replay 1 i can make sure i do what i want to carry over? (been too long since i played i gotta replay with most of the chars i want to transfer over, i have like 5 or 6 of them)

All in all the stuff ive been hearing is not so good. I hear theres almost no gear upgrades and this thing you guys are talking about the skill upgrade system has me worried

At the start you get 2 points per level, near the level cap (30) you get 1. You can also respec those in the game using the research feature. You get ~6-8 skills per character if you add in the extra skill you can get from your companions.

Just when you start me 2 there is a list of the major things that carry over, there are lots of minor things that are mentioned as the game progresses but that are mostly there just to make you feel like the world has progressed. I'll edit in a screenshot of the major things in a second.

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Rank = level, Military Spec = class, Pschological Profile = Paragon/Renegade scale, Status of wrex = self explained, MIA = who is missing, Council history = what happened to council at end,

There are gear upgrades, 7 per weapon type and different weapons in each type. The upgrades are mostly things like +10% damage and larger ammo clips.  They carry over to all weapons of that type. The only place you really feel that using the latest weapon isn't the best choice is in the sniper rifle and heavy weapons where things like amount of shots vs dmg start making a difference.

The game is good, take it for a story heavy shooter with some rpg elements.

MAJOR ANNOYANCE, you can't skip the pre rendered movies. I resorted to replacing them with a 0 sec long black movie that somebody made for that purpose. Just removing the movies crashes the game, have to replace them. (Not fun watching those movies over and over again when starting up new games to try things out...)

[Sion4000]

Just beat it, Man that was an awesome game.
I just hate what they did with the exploration,skills, and inventory. Besides that its great though.

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Its great that they added tali as a romance

[Proin Drakenzol]

Things I like better in ME2 vice ME1:

• Invisibility for Infiltrators
• Weapon enchants (such as Disrupting Ammo)
• Sniper Rifles better
• Headshots do more damage.
• You only carry weapons you're proficient with, I hated having the extra weapons that I couldn't use. It just irritated me.
• The graphics. They are beautiful. The way the smoke curls up from the Illusive Man's cigarette is just icing on the fucking cake.

Things I like less:

• Shrunken skill list. Fine for Infiltrator, but terrible for Sentinel. I changed my class when I imported my character 'cause Sentinel was so garbage in this one.
• Limited upgrade and weapons system. I enjoyed scouring the universe for that Frictionless Materials IX and what not and being able to upgrade different weapons differently or change specs on the fly. Ammo enchants somewhat make up for it.
• "Heat Sinks," essentially ammo clips. One of the things that made playing a Sentinel in ME1 tolerable from a weapon proficiencies standpoint was that you could keep plugging away forever with your pistol. Neither the Heavy Pistol or the SMG are particularly strong, and limited ammo hurts even more.

Overall I really enjoy ME2. Won't be able to play it for another 2 weeks, though since we're going underway ;_;

[shabutie]

Just finished a playthru as an Adept.


Only thing that I didn't like was (Parts of) the main story. (See below... though it does have a spoiler tag for a reason)

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You spend most of your time running around picking up party members and doing their person quests...

Suicide mission was badass though...

Poor Thane... (only one who didn't make it in my squad)


Oh, and no gay/lesbian relations... not a game breaker, but still... ME1 even had it!  (Kinda... Liara counts right?)

[Aneroph]

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Oh, and no gay/lesbian relations... not a game breaker, but still... ME1 even had it!  (Kinda... Liara counts right?)

Really?! Dang it! I've been working on that psycho Jack chick for nothing....

I've actually come across quite a few more bugs in my playing. For some reason right when I get into the heat of battle and start getting meleed a lot it automatically disconnects my paddle from my system and doesn't bother pausing the game. So there I am getting my ass beat trying to hit the button on my paddle to reconnect before I die. It's full battery and happens with all 4 of my wireless paddles and all 6 of my different battery packs (without happening in any other game), so I can only blame Mass Effect.

Possible flaw in the story:

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didn't Joker say in the first game that he had something like Brittle Bone Disease or something, and if he moved from his chair his legs would snap? Now he gets a bunch of action scenes where he hobbles around and even falls a few times... I could be wrong though.

[shabutie]

Possible flaw in the story:

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didn't Joker say in the first game that he had something like Brittle Bone Disease or something, and if he moved from his chair his legs would snap? Now he gets a bunch of action scenes where he hobbles around and even falls a few times... I could be wrong though.

Quite possible that was a Joke ^_^

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Chakwas (or whatever her name is) told me she was helping him out with it.  (When we were sharing a very delicate brandy)

[sanguis]

Possible flaw in the story:

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didn't Joker say in the first game that he had something like Brittle Bone Disease or something, and if he moved from his chair his legs would snap? Now he gets a bunch of action scenes where he hobbles around and even falls a few times... I could be wrong though.

Quite possible that was a Joke ^_^

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Chakwas (or whatever her name is) told me she was helping him out with it.  (When we were sharing a very delicate brandy)

Joker works with Cerberus which spent 2,000,000,000 credits on bringing Shepard back from the dead, I think they can afford to fix Jokers legs.

One question though; Where, oh where, am I supposed to find Element Zero (EEZO)? I've scanned quite a few planets and have found very little of it, is there a particular system that has an abundance of it.

[Proin Drakenzol]

Possible flaw in the story:

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didn't Joker say in the first game that he had something like Brittle Bone Disease or something, and if he moved from his chair his legs would snap? Now he gets a bunch of action scenes where he hobbles around and even falls a few times... I could be wrong though.

Quite possible that was a Joke ^_^

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Chakwas (or whatever her name is) told me she was helping him out with it.  (When we were sharing a very delicate brandy)

Joker works with Cerberus which spent 2,000,000,000 credits on bringing Shepard back from the dead, I think they can afford to fix Jokers legs.

One question though; Where, oh where, am I supposed to find Element Zero (EEZO)? I've scanned quite a few planets and have found very little of it, is there a particular system that has an abundance of it.

There are a few planets I've found so far with a decent amount, but overall it's super rare (that's the point). It's not quite Unobtainium, but it's close.

[Viseroid]

Really liked ME2, it left me longing for more. However, it felt like a lot was left out.

Light analysis of game play improvements:

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Streamlined (also known as simplified) game play. Upgrades, equipment, and cities were a lot simpler. Leaves space for more action.

Skills:
When you compare the skills menu of ME1 and ME2 you will laugh. At first glimpse it will seem that you are missing out on 2/3s of the skills that you had on ME1. However, I think this is okay. There were a lot of fluff skill points that you had to spend in ME1, there would be points where upgrading a skill would only yield 2% or 1 meter more effectiveness. ME2 has contracted that and made it more efficient, though you end up spending points in chunks you see more immediate benefits in your spending. I still would've liked an upgraded version of the ME1 skill interface since it would give me more control.

Equipment:
What the hell?!? I was confused as all hell when I went to my first store in ME2 and wondered where all the weapons were. There were only 5 things or so to buy. Compare this to the first time you landed in the Presidium in ME1; we could barely afford any of the 20 stuff that was available to buy! However, in ME1 it didn't matter much since once I started doing missions and had electronics skills we were getting massive loots. I would find a lot of the stuff that the store was selling at outrageous prices in some guys foot locker. In the end I would only buy 5 or so things from the store anyways. I can see why they would simplify the buying experience but I still liked being able to buy different types of ammo and upgrades to fine tune my squad. However, each time I encountered a certain type of enemy I'd have to take a few seconds to change my ammo type. In ME2 I can change the effectiveness of my ammo on the fly.

Fights:
In the higher difficulties, like hardcore, of ME2 you start running into really prolonged firefights. This is especially tough in the first half of the game where you don't have many upgrades. I regularly found myself draining the ammo of two of my 5 guns before I would finish some encounters. Having biotics doesn't help since they aren't effective until I can strip enemies of their shields and armor. I liked ME1 where you only had to worry about weapon cool downs. However, in ME1 you usually couldn't handle a sustained amount of fighting very long since you would have to consistently manage your weapon heat. Biotics were a bit of a help but at the beginning of the game they had retarded minute long cool downs. In the end the fights of ME1 can't hold a light to the intensity of ME2 fights, they didn't go wrong here.

Dialogue:
ME2 voice acting is noticeably better. I found the dialogues in ME2 to be far more engaging than those in ME1. A lot of the dialogue options actually made me pause and ponder the moral dilemmas that were presented. ME2 had great writing that makes ME1 cower in a corner.

Beaten ME2 more or less 100% following paragon options. I don't have my ME1 save because my hard drive died a few months after beating it so I'm playing through on casual as a vanguard. ME2 is a great game, it isn't perfect and it could have been longer but it has me looking forward to ME3.

[Osmo]

Im completing the first one the second time for the save also.

Wrex is going to die.
Kaiden is going to die.
Asari chick is gona get banged.

[kenshin-dono]

wait.. what? you dont get skill point to distribute at lvl up? that would be really dumb if thats the case.

Barring that, anyone aware of a guide out there that lists what they are so when i replay 1 i can make sure i do what i want to carry over? (been too long since i played i gotta replay with most of the chars i want to transfer over, i have like 5 or 6 of them)

All in all the stuff ive been hearing is not so good. I hear theres almost no gear upgrades and this thing you guys are talking about the skill upgrade system has me worried

At the start you get 2 points per level, near the level cap (30) you get 1. You can also respec those in the game using the research feature. You get ~6-8 skills per character if you add in the extra skill you can get from your companions.

Just when you start me 2 there is a list of the major things that carry over, there are lots of minor things that are mentioned as the game progresses but that are mostly there just to make you feel like the world has progressed. I'll edit in a screenshot of the major things in a second.

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Rank = level, Military Spec = class, Pschological Profile = Paragon/Renegade scale, Status of wrex = self explained, MIA = who is missing, Council history = what happened to council at end,

There are gear upgrades, 7 per weapon type and different weapons in each type. The upgrades are mostly things like +10% damage and larger ammo clips.  They carry over to all weapons of that type. The only place you really feel that using the latest weapon isn't the best choice is in the sniper rifle and heavy weapons where things like amount of shots vs dmg start making a difference.

The game is good, take it for a story heavy shooter with some rpg elements.

MAJOR ANNOYANCE, you can't skip the pre rendered movies. I resorted to replacing them with a 0 sec long black movie that somebody made for that purpose. Just removing the movies crashes the game, have to replace them. (Not fun watching those movies over and over again when starting up new games to try things out...)

wow.. that sounds VERY underwhelming. Im not really jonsing to play this game. Is there any real variety in teh armor or anything at least? The no movie skipping does suck, especially with how many times i replayed ME1

i gotta belive your list of the stuff that carries over is incomplete. Ive heard about a few other characters and events changing how things play out that aren't listed there

isn't there a complete list yet? Im surprised no ones hacked it or looked at the debug set where it shows what the carry over checklist is

[forevr]

Finished it twice.
I think it's better than the first game. More difficult and a lot bigger (two discs) but those damned movies that you can't skip are annoying indeed.
I read in one of the loading tips that you could skip the movies after you finished the game once by pressing "start" or something but it doesn't work. Not even if you use the same character for a second play through. Maybe it'll get fixed in some patch.

They are warming us up for the third and last game. I can certainly see where it's heading with unexpected allied species or a supreme human race depending on your choices.

[blubart]

the major flaws of mass effect 2 imo:
choice - or the lack thereof

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there are two weapons for every weapon type in the game + one advanced weapon
+ a collection of heavy weapons (only your character can wield one of those) with very limited ammo
in addition to the fact that the second weapon you get is in most cases the superior weapon most classes can only wield 2 weapon types
-> absolutely no choice in the weapon department

the situation with the armor is similar. there are roughly 3 pieces for every "slot" (not counting collector or preorder items) of which are roughly 66% useless. you can only equip your own character.

the so called "updates" are bought or "researched" and are all similar to the concept "all <weapon type>s do 10% more damage" there is only the "choice" if can afford them or not. they are global for your whole party.

your control over your party is limited to telling them what weapon to use and if you want them to control their powers or if you want to manage them all yourself.

i fail to see a reason why skillpoints have to be dropped in chunks - where you have to wait 3 levels in the worst case (even in lower levels) to increase a power of your choice further.

choosing the paragon or renegade path hardly seems to reflect in the story or even that much different in the dialog.

no leeway to react to situations

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you can only change your characters equipment while on the ship. this makes a choice between for example a helmet with 10% more head-shot damage and 10% negotiate bonus useless as you will (or at least should) always choose the helm with more damage as the situations where a negotiation bonus would be useful are basically non-existent and you can't change for the damage in situations that are actually difficult.

you can only choose your weapons (not that there is any real choice to begin with) at the start of the mission. a ton of lowhp creeps at the end of the mission? sucks that picked the slow firing weapon with less shots!

the choices for party members is pretty limited in the sense that you can not develop them into a specific directions which results in standard groups not chosen by the upcoming task but the weaponry they carry by chance (and for which you have found the upgrades for). it is absurd that it takes longer to clear a geth station with 2 tech specialists than with two random characters equipped with assault riffles.

powers vs. weapons - the demise of the power based classes

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the biggest flaw in the game. active powers have MAJOR issues.
- they all share a cooldown. this results in having one very good power is better than having a good number of decent powers.
- they are weak. i can't do with a power (that has a 6 second cooldown) what i can do with a single(!) pistol shot in the head of the enemy.
- a lot of powers don't work on either enemies with shields/barriers or only work on enemies with shields/barriers.
- they are hardly any synergies between different powers.
- for playing a character with a lot of active powers (adept, engineer, sentinel especially) the numbers of weapons is limited - to two (or three for the soldier-hybrids) this results in you having less shots per picked up ammo charge than other classes and the weaker weapons.

if you compare the skill set of the adept and the soldier it becomes obvious:

the soldier has two active abilities (adrenalin rush - slows down time by 70%, most likely the best power in the game - and concussive shot) plus 3 ammo powers you can activate at the start of the mission for every of your 5 weapons separately (among them the two best weapons of the game - assault (which only the soldier can carry initially) and sniper rifle).
with adrenalin rush you can easily manage head-shooting and killing 4 targets over its duration with the assault rifle, which in it's upgrade is damn accurate. it only has a 3 second cooldown!
with the sniper rifle and an ammo power on it you can instant kill a harbinger controlled collector while he is still morphing (or any target for that matter - except for named characters - those take 2 or sometimes even 3 shots)
adrenalin rush can be used for anything (a fast get-away, dodging bullets to storm in, sniping the bad boys in the back without catching a single bullet... etc.) and has a logical synergy with every weapon (better aim with the sniper, more shots with the assault rifle,...and it seems to increase the damage per bullet too - most likely because they are "faster").

the adept on the other hand has five active abilities and can use only two weapons (the two weakest in the game, a slow firing pistol and a inaccurate machine pistol only useful against shields)
the first ability warp does single target damage with a possible synergy (if you wasted another power on the same target before) with other powers - unfortunately not usable against enemies where you would like to use this powerful damage effect the most - those bosses/heavy hitter with shields. 6 seconds cd.
throw hurls the enemy in the air and damages it if it hit another object. the problem with it: the enemy just might not hit another object or is to heavy to be hurled away - in which case you just wasted your cooldown (luckily only 3sec.)
singularity holds a number of enemies in place without damaging them. the problem is that most of the time those 4 enemies it can hold for 7 seconds are not in it's maximal radius (already specced for it - it would be 1.75 otherwise) of 3 meters! wasted 4.5sec cooldown.
pull hoovers a target (more in a 3 meter radius if specced for) to your position, doing zero damage. those same enemies you want to get of your back as far away as possible.
shockwave the amazing pinnacle power of the adept you have to dump 6 points in the previous two powers only to be able to skill it. if only the enemies would line up neatly so you could blast them all away at once. they don't unfortunately, quite the contrary - they spread out so that most of the time you will hit a maximum of 3. cooldown 6 seconds.
the adept still has to rely on his weapons or otherwise sit around and act only every 3 to 6 seconds.

if you have the choice of a full weapon arsenal wielding the most deadly weapons killing the worst enemies without taking a single bullet constantly keeping two powers in use - why would you go running around with a freaking pistol, ammo starved and only selective usable powers that are all weaker in comparison to what one other power can yield?

[Aneroph]

the major flaws of mass effect 2 imo:
choice - or the lack thereof

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there are two weapons for every weapon type in the game + one advanced weapon
+ a collection of heavy weapons (only your character can wield one of those) with very limited ammo
in addition to the fact that the second weapon you get is in most cases the superior weapon most classes can only wield 2 weapon types
-> absolutely no choice in the weapon department

the situation with the armor is similar. there are roughly 3 pieces for every "slot" (not counting collector or preorder items) of which are roughly 66% useless. you can only equip your own character.

the so called "updates" are bought or "researched" and are all similar to the concept "all <weapon type>s do 10% more damage" there is only the "choice" if can afford them or not. they are global for your whole party.

your control over your party is limited to telling them what weapon to use and if you want them to control their powers or if you want to manage them all yourself.

no leeway to react to situations

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you can only change your characters equipment while on the ship. this makes a choice between for example a helmet with 10% more head-shot damage and 10% negotiate bonus useless as you will (or at least should) always choose the helm with more damage as the situations where a negotiation bonus would be useful are basically non-existent and you can't change for the damage in situations that are actually difficult.

you can only choose your weapons (not that there is any real choice to begin with) at the start of the mission. a ton of lowhp creeps at the end of the mission? sucks that picked the slow firing weapon with less shots!

the choices for party members is pretty limited in the sense that you can not develop them into a specific directions which results in standard groups not chosen by the upcoming task but the weaponry the carry by chance (and for which you have found the upgrades for). it is absurd that it takes longer to clear a geth station with 2 tech specialists than with two random characters equipped with assault riffles.

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have to go - will finish later q.q

All these things you just mentioned as flaws were complete changes from ME1 that are fixes.

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Weapon types are highly improved. In the first game you could choose an adept class, receive a battle rifle, and dominate the game without ever even using adept powers because you could do just as good with the battle rifle as anyone else as long as you had some skills. You could also use the sniper rifle whenever the situation arrived. In this game you must be specific classes to be able to use specific weapons, which forces you to use what your character is best at. When I played as the infiltrator my first play through I found myself using the sniper a lot and switching between a heavy pistol and an smg for shorter fights. Then I would whip out the big gun for bosses or guys with barriers and armor. Now that I am playing as an adept I find that without a sniper, and without ammo effect I am forced to use my powers to overcome enemies instead of just fire fighting.

Armor doesn't give your character enough bonuses to actually be really useful in this game. If I had to complain about ME1 it would be that I always ended up finding a piece of armor that had good stats but looked like shit, and then I would be stuck wearing it forever. In ME2 they made it so you could basically just wear whatever armor at whatever color and design you wanted without having too much of a penalty. In the end this game is more story/choice oriented so allowing further customizations of your armor for looks makes more sense.

Nothing at all is different with controlling party members than there was in the first game. You choose who you want in your party based on there strengths and then, aside from using some powers here and there, you really never even need to bother with them (assuming you have them use powers on their own).

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There is at least one place to switch out weapons on most missions. If you didn't see them then you're blind because they were always in plain sight. They didn't put them all over the levels because, if you didn't notice, when you change your weapons you get a complete restock on ammo as well. There is no need to switch out armors or casual clothes in the middle of a mission so they didn't bother putting stations to do so anywhere except on your ship.

I have no idea what your talking about with the team members...using all tech specialists in a Geth area isn't very bright. You want more even teams because neither biotics nor techs do a lot of damage, they just help disable shields, destroy armor, overload objects, or prevent attacks. Once these team members do these things you still need someone with a gun to finish off the enemy.

To everyone complaining about the movies: Are you playing computer or Xbox version? I'm on Xbox and pressing the 'X' button skips dialogue a line at a time and also skips all movies except the very first one, and the really, really short landing sequence movies when you enter a new station.

I did have another problem/glitch with this game. In the suicide mission when you have the biotics person following you arround creating a shield, she decided not to recognize that I had killed all the enemies and I couldn't move forward. I had to get myself killed and redo the whole part in order to get past it.

[blubart]

Aneroph - how long did you write on your post - i updated mine some time ago^^

All these things you just mentioned as flaws were complete changes from ME1 that are fixes.

that's the best thing i have heard in years. having less choices and reducing your number of options is now a "fix".
do you by chance play the game on a console?

all you say still doesn't change the fact that i can not choose anymore but am stuck with what the developer think is the "best" way to play.
why should i be punished for choosing one class over another (in the form of having less shots/weaker weapons by gaining no noticeable additional utility)? why should i not be able to decide what armor stats i want to equip or what weapon i choose as the perfect fit for this specific enemy - your issue with the "style" is a completely different matter the developer could easily fix by changing the armor to look like you want and add upgrades as interchangeable additions. you are admitting it yourself: armor is not useful in this game - a lot of wasted potential.
what you are saying about ME1 is plain wrong. playing as an adept without using your powers would have been just stupid as you couldn't skill into specific weapons thus limiting your potential output by a good margin. just compare singularity in ME1 (awesome) with singularity in ME2 (meeehh). I played ME1 as an Adept, ME2 up to getting Zero to join me. But restarted the game as a Soldier because 80% of the time i was stuck with powers on cooldown and my pistol alone. The game is a lot less dynamic and manifold playing an adept - despite the seemingly greater pool of active skills. (and that's comming from someone playing the "ranged power" class in every game - avoiding the "brute force" class like the plague.)
If you don't want to bother with your party members, that's fine by me - but completely taking the option to bother about them is a flaw.

that i can switch out weapons at some useless points in the mission (did you ever do it? - i doubt it because there are no options to choose from) doesn't really solve the issue that i can't react to specific situations with specific weapons. (like taking out the nukeman for a big boss - but no, you are stuck with the collector gun because you thought their might be a lot of accuracy work required again.)

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I have no idea what your talking about with the team members...using all tech specialists in a Geth area isn't very bright. You want more even teams because neither biotics nor techs do a lot of damage, they just help disable shields, destroy armor, overload objects, or prevent attacks. Once these team members do these things you still need someone with a gun to finish off the enemy.

the problem is that your team members aren't that intelligent (and you can't command their (weapon) attacks yourself) so taking the direct damage approach yields always better results. why should i waste a cooldown on disabling a shield if i could use the same cooldown to kill 2 or 3 of those shielded targets? and i thought the relation between tech specialists and tech enemies would be obvious...

[shabutie]

I played through ME2 as an Adept with no problems.   Sure the cooldown sucks for a little while in the beginning but end game...  it's nearly overpowered (and would be without a shared cooldown).  Getting Warp and Biotics up to level 4 and the cooldown isn't much of a problem.  My team usually made up for my shared cooldown.  I'd take Miranda (Bio/Tech) and Thane (Bio/Sniper) and just Warp spam and most things would die in one volley.

Waves of Husks aren't a problem if you know how to dispatch them right as an adept.  and they're the only ones who come at you in large numbers that you'd have to worry about your cooldown with.

I agree that singularity sucks in ME2 though. 


(EDIT Side Note: I didn't let the AI use any of their powers and just kinda micromanaged the whole time)

[BuriaL]

Tried Mass Effect 2 the other day. I got so dissapointed i got angry.

In 20min this is what i thought about, instead of enjoying myself:

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- This movie / sequence(intro) kinda sucks, and its long.
- I work for Cerberus? I killed alot of those guys in ME1, now theyre my friends? Not a good story.
- How do i ajust mouse sens? Oh.. they removed it from the options..
- Why are the controls different? Now i cant even crouch, and i need to press keys to take cover.
- Cant open inventory and character screen. Wtf.
- That australian voice keeps repeating the same annoying shit over and over, when iam trying to figure the game out..verry aggrovating.
- Help messages pop up on the screen, firstly they block the view, secondly when i change the key bindings they show the wrong keys.
- I get shot at and cant get over the crate, i now need to press 2 keys. In ME1 you cant jump(a bit wierd), but you dont ever need to.
- I get in my first firefight and notice that i got an ammo counter. Okay.. i think, why would they start to use normal projectile weapons with ammo when they used "micro-particle-railguns" with infinite ammo in
  ME1? Just to make it worse, the gun fucking sucks, becouse the bullets fly slow enough for me to see, and enemies to dodge.
- I get to the first npc / team8 and start shooting the robots, seems to be an infinite amount of them, i run outa ammo.. At this point iam really pissed off, and i quit. Havent played it since.

Its like the retarded version of Mass Effect, that is my oppinon.

[Phaedris]

Run down of things I don't like.
- The character customizations is severely lacking, also no inventory management is shit, not having to decide how to share out equipment amongst the team is disapointing.
- I dislike the research in the game, just seems like a lazy way of implementing it, why not have it so I have to attach addons to the weapons and have a limited amount of addons per weapon thus making me choose for example +10% vs shields or +10% vs armour not both.
- Different armour meaningless other then aesthetics.
- Squad A.I. = Artificial Stupidity, often leaving cover for no reason and getting killed, not using abilities effectively without me micro managing them.
- The planetary scanning is just a pain and not interesting at all (other then the odd mission), plus I have all these credits and can't use them to buy resources?
- Hacking mini-game might as well not be there the same boring thing over and over, also way too easy.
- The projectiles are very slow this is something I hate in any game it just looks stupid having them move so slow you can dodge them.
- Renegade/Paragon options don't have enough differences and in most cases they have the same outcome and not enough effect on later events.

Overall the combat reminded me alot of Gears of War and the RPG elements like character customization seemed lacking.
I assume alot of you played the old Mass Effect while I never have and probably never will, so alot of you may see things about the game in a different light.
It probably sounds like I hate the game but I don't, I just don't think it's all that great.