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Offline iindigo

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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #80 on: February 03, 2010, 03:15:30 AM »
I will never use an Apple product because they one over charge

I'm not going to argue too much, but that's not entirely true these days. If you put together your own i5/i7 system with the same specs (including an LED S-IPS display @ 2560x1440) as the 27" iMac, the cost is almost identical. I tried, wondering if I could build a hackintosh version of the 27" iMac for significantly cheaper, and you really can't...

The Mac Pro line is just sad now, though. $2,200 for the base model with no monitor, and the specs are WORSE than that of the $2,000 27" i7 iMac. Who the hell is going to pay for that?

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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #81 on: February 03, 2010, 03:24:22 AM »
I will never use an Apple product because they one over charge

I'm not going to argue too much, but that's not entirely true these days. If you put together your own i5/i7 system with the same specs (including an LED S-IPS display @ 2560x1440) as the 27" iMac, the cost is almost identical. I tried, wondering if I could build a hackintosh version of the 27" iMac for significantly cheaper, and you really can't...

The Mac Pro line is just sad now, though. $2,200 for the base model with no monitor, and the specs are WORSE than that of the $2,000 27" i7 iMac. Who the hell is going to pay for that?


My i7 system cost me $1200 with a 26" LCD screen..plus I have 12 gigs DDR3 1600 ram. This is including GeForce 285 1 gig x 2 SLI which the iMac doesnt have

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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #82 on: February 03, 2010, 03:35:18 AM »
I will never use an Apple product because they one over charge

I'm not going to argue too much, but that's not entirely true these days. If you put together your own i5/i7 system with the same specs (including an LED S-IPS display @ 2560x1440) as the 27" iMac, the cost is almost identical. I tried, wondering if I could build a hackintosh version of the 27" iMac for significantly cheaper, and you really can't...

The Mac Pro line is just sad now, though. $2,200 for the base model with no monitor, and the specs are WORSE than that of the $2,000 27" i7 iMac. Who the hell is going to pay for that?


My i7 system cost me $1200 with a 26" LCD screen..plus I have 12 gigs DDR3 1600 ram. This is including GeForce 285 1 gig x 2 SLI which the iMac doesnt have

What type of panel does your display use, how is it backlit, and what resolution does it run at? If you try to buy a display like the one in the iMac, the closest you can get is a model that Dell is releasing soon (I think it uses the exact same panel) and sells for $1,000.

I'll admit though, your graphics setup is quite a bit better. Tis probably a good thing I'm not a gamer. At least this model of iMac has a separate card, though, facilitating future upgrades instead of it just being part of the motherboard.

As far as RAM goes, I can make use of the exact same RAM (though Apple, by default, installs the slower standard). The motherboard's max sits at 16GB.
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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #83 on: February 03, 2010, 04:07:40 AM »
It is a standard LCD screen. Your LCD screen is over kill for me because as a gamer I dont need something like that.

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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #84 on: February 03, 2010, 04:10:26 AM »
It is a standard LCD screen. Your LCD screen is over kill for me because as a gamer I dont need something like that.

True enough. Even taking the color correctness out of the factor, though, this thing is incredibly sharp and vibrant. Light from LEDs feels easier on the eyes, too.

How long do you figure it will be before old-style florescent backlighting is phased out?

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« Reply #85 on: February 03, 2010, 04:16:58 AM »
It is a standard LCD screen. Your LCD screen is over kill for me because as a gamer I dont need something like that.

True enough. Even taking the color correctness out of the factor, though, this thing is incredibly sharp and vibrant. Light from LEDs feels easier on the eyes, too.

How long do you figure it will be before old-style florescent backlighting is phased out?


The LED screens now are just a transition technology of something even better to come out. Maybe within a year or 2 a new LED screen will come out.

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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #86 on: February 03, 2010, 07:51:35 AM »

The Mac Pro line is just sad now, though. $2,200 for the base model with no monitor, and the specs are WORSE than that of the $2,000 27" i7 iMac. Who the hell is going to pay for that?


I think they'll update it in June.

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« Reply #87 on: February 03, 2010, 04:59:02 PM »
What type of panel does your display use, how is it backlit, and what resolution does it run at? If you try to buy a display like the one in the iMac, the closest you can get is a model that Dell is releasing soon (I think it uses the exact same panel) and sells for $1,000.

If you would have more knowledge about manufacturers (something mac users are not), you would not mention Dell, but NEC. Any designer with self respect would have nothing else but a NEC screen. NEC screens that are equivalent of Mac's screens cost as much, but if you are really a professional and money is of no issue, you will buy a monitor of NEC SpectraView series:

http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Series/?series=f52d7f47-df4d-4223-b75e-c23e8b085ed7
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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #88 on: February 03, 2010, 05:16:30 PM »
If you would have more knowledge about manufacturers (something mac users are not), you would not mention Dell, but NEC. Any designer with self respect would have nothing else but a NEC screen. NEC screens that are equivalent of Mac's screens cost as much, but if you are really a professional and money is of no issue, you will buy a monitor of NEC SpectraView series:

http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Series/?series=f52d7f47-df4d-4223-b75e-c23e8b085ed7
i agree that dell is fail, but please don't forget EIZO. they already produced amazing screens long before apple even noticed their screens are shit (and still are only decent)
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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #89 on: February 03, 2010, 06:48:31 PM »
Of course EIZO is good, I lost count of how many times I have seen a "Should i buy NEC or EIZO?" threads on other tech forums.
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« Reply #90 on: February 03, 2010, 07:20:01 PM »
not to mention that 4-5 years down the road when i decide i need a new computer to go with the newer software that needs more power for my graphics design needs, I CAN USE THE SAME MONITOR I PAID 1200 OR 1500$ FOR and just pay 1000 or so for a new pc

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« Reply #91 on: February 03, 2010, 07:25:12 PM »
What type of panel does your display use, how is it backlit, and what resolution does it run at? If you try to buy a display like the one in the iMac, the closest you can get is a model that Dell is releasing soon (I think it uses the exact same panel) and sells for $1,000.

If you would have more knowledge about manufacturers (something mac users are not), you would not mention Dell, but NEC. Any designer with self respect would have nothing else but a NEC screen. NEC screens that are equivalent of Mac's screens cost as much, but if you are really a professional and money is of no issue, you will buy a monitor of NEC SpectraView series:

http://www.necdisplay.com/Products/Series/?series=f52d7f47-df4d-4223-b75e-c23e8b085ed7

Keep in mind that I am also a college student. I have some money, but not THAT much money. Besides that, were you aware that the panel used in the 27" iMac is in fact manufactured by NEC?


not to mention that 4-5 years down the road when i decide i need a new computer to go with the newer software that needs more power for my graphics design needs, I CAN USE THE SAME MONITOR I PAID 1200 OR 1500$ FOR and just pay 1000 or so for a new pc

You haven't been paying very much attention. The display in the 27" iMac can be used for other devices through a port in the back of the machine.


Offline AceHigh

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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #92 on: February 03, 2010, 07:29:28 PM »
Keep in mind that I am also a college student. I have some money, but not THAT much money. Besides that, were you aware that the panel used in the 27" iMac is in fact manufactured by NEC?

HA! You took the bait.... ahem...

Yes I know that Apple uses NEC manufactured screens, but I also know that those screens are not the best ones that NEC makes. Unlike a pc user, mac fanboys don't have as many choices of quality screens as people who choose between NEC or EIZO.
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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #93 on: February 03, 2010, 07:34:22 PM »
Keep in mind that I am also a college student. I have some money, but not THAT much money. Besides that, were you aware that the panel used in the 27" iMac is in fact manufactured by NEC?

HA! You took the bait.... ahem...

Yes I know that Apple uses NEC manufactured screens, but I also know that those screens are not the best ones that NEC makes. Unlike a pc user, mac fanboys don't have as many choices of quality screens as people who choose between NEC or EIZO.

Actually, I do... if I wanted to, I could buy one of said displays and hook it up with my iMac in a dual-screen configuration. Same goes for any other Mac user, ranging from plastic Macbook to Mac Pro. I wouldn't mind doing it, either. It just wouldn't be the wisest way to spend leftover college funds :P


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Re: Apple iPad launch
« Reply #94 on: February 03, 2010, 07:35:16 PM »
You know that the next phrase s going to be justification about how the screen is high quality but not highest quality due to the fact of a "practicalitys sake".
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« Reply #95 on: February 03, 2010, 07:38:46 PM »
You know that the next phrase s going to be justification about how the screen is high quality but not highest quality due to the fact of a "practicalitys sake".

To be quite honest, I can't say anything about higher quality displays because I haven't seen any in real life. Even in the electronics stores here in Tokyo the only monitors I see on the shelves are your run of the mill cheap TN panels, making it difficult to compare.


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« Reply #96 on: February 05, 2010, 04:43:22 PM »
The name seems to have some legal problem, since it is already being used by Fujitsu ::)
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« Reply #97 on: February 05, 2010, 08:42:33 PM »
The name seems to have some legal problem, since it is already being used by Fujitsu ::)

I really don't see the issue. The issue says it's probably going to be smooth at the end of the article.
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« Reply #98 on: February 05, 2010, 09:22:43 PM »
So, whats the latest on the iPad? ::)

Y'all seem to have strayed of topic and started (inevitably) yet another Mac vs. PC argument. Don't try to denie it :P.
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« Reply #99 on: February 05, 2010, 09:24:35 PM »
Not all of us. :P

There's already a competitors product being created as well, the itablet. I'll be waiting to see how that turns out...