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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #40 on: July 15, 2011, 11:50:12 AM »
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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #41 on: August 24, 2011, 11:09:13 PM »
This game has actually been getting a ton of great reviews... I picked it up today to see what all the buzz is all about. Anyone else get it yet? I'll give my impressions after I've dug my fingers into the first couple of hours of the game.

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #42 on: August 26, 2011, 02:42:12 AM »
Doubt posting, blah, blah, blah....

This... game... is... stellar.

I'm currently trying to play the game as a completely stealth, no alarms, and not killing a single enemy playthrough (like a Deus Ex game should be played, but that's besides the point). The amount of tactics that you can use to play through the game is mind boggling. Let me put it this way, I've been playing for 6 or so hours right now and I'm still on the FIRST REAL LEVEL. I've only gone through like 8 enemies so far, but it's so god damn fun to stalk your prey and study their movements and pick them off one by one... hide their headache induced coma'ed bodies... and then "deal" with his friends. So far, the stealth gameplay is SO much like Chaos Theory (which is the game that I thought had the best stealth combat) and I'm loving every minute of this game. I havn't gotten into any firefights (which I won't be), but from what I've seen in the reviews... it does that portion of the game play similar to Gears of War (and does it well). This game might actually sneak into game of the year contention. It's THAT good at the level of choice it gives on how to approach the game. It rewards you for picking a style of play that you like, so exploration is encouraged along with studying your enemies and using your augmentations accordingly.

I recommend this game to EVERYONE.

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #43 on: August 26, 2011, 02:58:01 AM »
I would also recommend this game to anyone, and its a must play for Deus Ex fans and any fan of intelligent shooters. I'm not sure if it lives up to the original yet, but it comes close for sure and its already surpassed Deus Ex 2 to me.

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #44 on: August 26, 2011, 05:39:04 AM »
I've never played the original.  I played Invisible War a long time ago and loved it.  And now I'm loving the new one.  Is there anyway to improve the graphics with mods of the First game.  I wanna play them all in a row, but the first games graphics are dreadful IMO

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #45 on: August 26, 2011, 03:31:42 PM »
I've never played the original.  I played Invisible War a long time ago and loved it.  And now I'm loving the new one.  Is there anyway to improve the graphics with mods of the First game.  I wanna play them all in a row, but the first games graphics are dreadful IMO

The first is much better than original wars IMO, you should definitely check it out.

You could check this out: http://www.moddb.com/mods/the-nameless-mod/tutorials/improving-deus-exs-graphics-with-mods I haven't tested it out but it looks promising, and I'm sure theres other sources as well.

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #46 on: August 27, 2011, 11:02:54 AM »
Boss fights are retarded. Boss fight punish you if you have the wrong augs to counter that boss. So depending on augs you have, the boss fight is either too easy, or nearly impossible.

Currently I am stuck on the second boss because I don't have resistance against electricity so I cant electrocute her without dying myself, nor do I have the typhon augment, which is allegedly very strong against her.
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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #47 on: August 27, 2011, 05:36:59 PM »
I haven't gotten far into it yet, but this game seems more streamline than the other two.


Do the worlds/cities ever open up a little bit? or is it pretty much point a to point b with some choices along the way?

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #48 on: August 27, 2011, 05:49:07 PM »
Boss fights are retarded. Boss fight punish you if you have the wrong augs to counter that boss. So depending on augs you have, the boss fight is either too easy, or nearly impossible.

Currently I am stuck on the second boss because I don't have resistance against electricity so I cant electrocute her without dying myself, nor do I have the typhon augment, which is allegedly very strong against her.

Just kite her. I took her down using only my combat rifle, cloak, and sprint (and no, I didn't have any damage resistance). Enjoy it; with EMP protection it'd probably be trivial.

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #49 on: August 28, 2011, 03:22:21 AM »
I found a savegame that I made when I entered the lower level of the tower. Found out that at that point I still had 3 praxis points, so I invested all 3 in Typhon and went ahead to meet that impossible boss.

I swear, I killed her in 2 Typhon shots. Since she hugs you with her special attack, using Typhon at that time will do some serious damage to her, disrupt her special attack and stun her for a duration. With Typhon she was really trivial.

Now I wonder if the next bosses require you to have augs to beat them.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #50 on: August 30, 2011, 01:42:31 AM »
The last two endfights after Fedorova were lulz... lulz as in piss easy (at least on normal).


My thoughst on the game:
Awesome! Some developments were easy to predict but all in all I really liked the story/storytelling. To a certain degree I really could understand Jenson's motivations and inner thoughts.
The graphics really weren't that great but tbh I was so captivated by the story that I quickly ignored it. I really loved how there were so many ways to the location of your objectives or the dialogue options when you have your social aug upgraded. Really cool tools to influence the conversations (where possible of course).

If you want to be nearly op try to take down enemies non-lethally and in cqc. In the end I only had like 10 praxis points missing. The complete stealth (8 pts?) and hacking analyze augs (the cranium augs). Because of the over abundance of praxis points and imo superfluous augs I didn't know where to invest the last points.

Imo, a fitting prequel/"sequel" to Deus EX.
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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #51 on: August 30, 2011, 02:17:05 AM »
Yeah finished the game myself.

Here is a tip: want boss fights to be trivial? Get Typhoon as soon as possible. I literally used typhoon only on boss and in a fight where I saved my helicopter pilot. However boss fight are challenging without it, so in some manner Typhoon is like cheating.

Get CASIE augs. Persuasion successes that give you silver tongue gives you 1000xp just like that. Also CASIE makes persuasion system the best I have ever seen in a game.

In the end of the game I had an abundance of auto hacking thingies (forgot the name), you can probably abstain from level 5 hacking aug, because I had more of those hack thingies in my inventory in the end of the game, than level 5 locks.

Icarus aug is freaking awesome. I love jumping from really high places :)

I played a sneaky character and I never used a cloak aug or stealth enhancer on normal difficulty. The game is set up in such way that you can sneak through levels without those.

Smashing through walls is really useful, that aug is priceless.

Inventory augs are so handy to max out. I don't know how it is possible not to have those. But then again I always had abundancy of money, probably because of my looting.

All in all, this is a great game. It does stand up to the original in my opinion. The only thing that I missed was melee weapons.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #52 on: August 30, 2011, 02:26:18 AM »
Yeah finished the game myself.

Here is a tip: want boss fights to be trivial? Get Typhoon as soon as possible. I literally used typhoon only on boss and in a fight where I saved my helicopter pilot. However boss fight are challenging without it, so in some manner Typhoon is like cheating.

Get CASIE augs. Persuasion successes that give you silver tongue gives you 1000xp just like that. Also CASIE makes persuasion system the best I have ever seen in a game.

In the end of the game I had an abundance of auto hacking thingies (forgot the name), you can probably abstain from level 5 hacking aug, because I had more of those hack thingies in my inventory in the end of the game, than level 5 locks.

Icarus aug is freaking awesome. I love jumping from really high places :)

I played a sneaky character and I never used a cloak aug or stealth enhancer on normal difficulty. The game is set up in such way that you can sneak through levels without those.

Smashing through walls is really useful, that aug is priceless.

Inventory augs are so handy to max out. I don't know how it is possible not to have those. But then again I always had abundancy of money, probably because of my looting.

All in all, this is a great game. It does stand up to the original in my opinion. The only thing that I missed was melee weapons.

You have the arms of death. I can beat two people senselessly AT THE SAME TIME. I don't think melee weapons were needed with those fancy arms.

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #53 on: August 30, 2011, 02:27:38 AM »
Yeah, melee weapons were dearly missed. *imagines take down animations*

Right, stealth enhancers was the name^^ Totally useless. I wouldn't want to miss the cloaking aug though. Icarus is pure win!

Imo, Typhoon was also totally useless. Ok, against bosses a nice to have but they are also easily dealt with with the combat rifle:

Barrett: Pillar to pillar. Ok, I used some Frags because imo he had heavy protection.
Fedorova: Watch the waves in the water. At that time I already had some dmg reduction and emp shielding though, so that made it easier as well. Also tried it with the Typhoon for lulz, two charges and she was done :D
Namir: Fight in the middle. Strafe left <-> right with the middle wall as the center :D Namir likes to climb >_>
Endfight: Hide behind a pillar. Done...

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #54 on: August 30, 2011, 02:30:17 AM »
Yeah, melee weapons were dearly missed. *imagines take down animations*

Right, stealth enhancers was the name^^ Totally useless. I wouldn't want to miss the cloaking aug though. Icarus is pure win!

In this play through, I've been using just hacking/clock and I've just been walking past enemies... splitting them up... and then taking them down without using a single weapon (just my arms, baby!). It's so much fun... but I will admit that it's taking me some time to get through the game.

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« Reply #55 on: August 30, 2011, 02:37:33 AM »
I did so most of the time (cqc earns you 50 xp each time you take down an enemy). I think in five encounters I reprogrammed the robots/turrets though :D Fun. Kills earn you only 10 xp, well I don't know what lethal take downs earn.


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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #56 on: August 30, 2011, 04:07:00 AM »
You have the arms of death. I can beat two people senselessly AT THE SAME TIME. I don't think melee weapons were needed with those fancy arms.

Did you have an endless supply of those energy chocolate bars? Because I found out that one energy cell will recharge.... slowly. All other ones will not recharge at all unless you eat something. Thus I could not use that takedown trick too often.

I did so most of the time (cqc earns you 50 xp each time you take down an enemy). I think in five encounters I reprogrammed the robots/turrets though :D Fun. Kills earn you only 10 xp, well I don't know what lethal take downs earn.

Lethal takedown is 40 I think. Also a normal kill is 10, but a headshot kill is 20xp (majority of my kills were those with my silenced sniper rifle or my silenced 10mm pistol). Non lethal shot (tranq rifle or stun gun) is 30xp.

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It is possible to save Malik? ;_; Well, I didn't think of using Typhoon then >_<
Did you guys give van Bruggen a weapon in the Alice Garden Pods? I let him die. Why should I give him my dearly pimped weapons D:

I used typhon when I jumped from second floor and landed between a military grade robot and 2 guys with a heavy rifle each, it insta killed them removing all that firepower at once is a big help to save Malik.

I gave van Bruggen a stock revolver that I picked up earlier.
For one thing, Tiff is not on any level what I would call a typical American.  She's not what I would consider a typical person.  I don't know any other genius geneticist anime-fan martial artist marksman model-level beauties, do you?

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #57 on: August 30, 2011, 04:14:51 AM »
You have the arms of death. I can beat two people senselessly AT THE SAME TIME. I don't think melee weapons were needed with those fancy arms.

Did you have an endless supply of those energy chocolate bars? Because I found out that one energy cell will recharge.... slowly. All other ones will not recharge at all unless you eat something. Thus I could not use that takedown trick too often.

I only used it when two guys where grouped up together. The trick is to use it when you only have 2/3 battery bars... that way it'll recharge the 1/3 part without needing to eat another one of the Cyberboost bars. It kinda sucks being limited like that... but it really prevents you from basically being "GOD" in the game. I didn't have an unlimited amount, but I found a lot of them and/or bought them.

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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #58 on: August 30, 2011, 10:05:43 AM »
Foregoing a take down in favour of using the stun gun (or PEPS if there's more than one enemy, though I'd rather use consumables to set up an easy double take down) allows you to easily cloak up to an enemy and zap him in the head. This nets you 40 XP rather than 50 XP, but on the other hand you won't need to rely on consumables if you can't sneak up on an enemy. Recommended when you're going for pacifist.
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Re: Deus Ex 3
« Reply #59 on: August 31, 2011, 09:28:56 PM »
I want a remake of Deus EX using the current engine :3 After seeing the end I'd love to refresh my memory but Deus EX is running wild on my system >_>

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