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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #20 on: February 03, 2010, 04:22:46 PM »
What's the difference between all the OS? and the 32-64bit thingy? I was thinking 64bit Home premium.

Also what is a solid state hard drive?

Thank you, I might go for this one.
Just get Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. If you get 32-bit, it won't be able to use all four gigs of RAM. Professional and Ultimate don't offer anything you'll ever use.

Solid state drives use flash memory instead of spinner platters. They're very fast. They're also outrageously expensive for the amount of storage you get. I don't plan on getting one any time soon.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #21 on: February 03, 2010, 08:01:42 PM »
What's the difference between all the OS? and the 32-64bit thingy? I was thinking 64bit Home premium.

Also what is a solid state hard drive?

Thank you, I might go for this one.
Just get Windows 7 Home Premium 64-bit. If you get 32-bit, it won't be able to use all four gigs of RAM. Professional and Ultimate don't offer anything you'll ever use.

Solid state drives use flash memory instead of spinner platters. They're very fast. They're also outrageously expensive for the amount of storage you get. I don't plan on getting one any time soon.
Indeed memory is the big thing. You will also have a marginal improvement in performance with 64 bit.

Solid State Drives are indeed expensive. I would only ever get one if you had money to spare and were getting two hard drives anyway. I like them nonetheless, because they are less likely to cause you problems, and as was mentioned, they are very fast. But in your case, I wouldn't recommend it.

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #22 on: February 03, 2010, 08:12:32 PM »
In fact, I don't know that I have seen a system that actually has an HDMI port.

My laptop has one. :|
And I think that a lot of TVs have direct DVI input in the back. I know mine does in a slot labeled "computer".



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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #23 on: February 03, 2010, 09:48:55 PM »
I think its a bad idea to buy a gaming computer that can just play current games. When new games come out your computer will need an upgrade to even play it.

Also you just want the PC to just play the game and not play it to its max

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #24 on: February 03, 2010, 11:37:08 PM »
I think its a bad idea to buy a gaming computer that can just play current games. When new games come out your computer will need an upgrade to even play it.

Also you just want the PC to just play the game and not play it to its max
The computer linked to above shouldn't have any issues for quite a while. The 4870 is a fairly decent video card.
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« Reply #25 on: February 04, 2010, 12:17:44 AM »
Lol, for current games my rig is enough (Intel Q6600 with Radeon 2600XT and 2GB ram). Compared to that, the one linked about is at least two generations higher. I think it will last him at least 3 years without any upgrades. Even after that, it should still be able to play most games.

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #26 on: February 04, 2010, 12:37:59 AM »
Lol, for current games my rig is enough (Intel Q6600 with Radeon 2600XT and 2GB ram). Compared to that, the one linked about is at least two generations higher. I think it will last him at least 3 years without any upgrades. Even after that, it should still be able to play most games.
True. My old PC (Athon 64 X2, 9800GT, and 2BG RAM) was able to handle games just fine. The only reason I upgraded was because 3D vision rapes frame rates. Most people don't have that issue.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #27 on: February 04, 2010, 01:28:04 AM »
In all honesty the only thing you need to worry about is CPU and Mobo. That is usually the most difficult and costly to upgrade.
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« Reply #28 on: February 04, 2010, 01:42:57 AM »
In all honesty the only thing you need to worry about is CPU and Mobo. That is usually the most difficult and costly to upgrade.
The thing is that he isn't likely to upgrade since he isn't a computer person (says so in some of his posts).

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #29 on: February 04, 2010, 02:24:18 AM »
In all honesty the only thing you need to worry about is CPU and Mobo. That is usually the most difficult and costly to upgrade.
The thing is that he isn't likely to upgrade since he isn't a computer person (says so in some of his posts).

Yeah, I know. I was talking to the guys above.

Not to mention it's pretty obvious that the OP doesn't know much about computers and probably should not tinker with it anyways. 
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #30 on: February 04, 2010, 11:16:38 AM »
In all honesty the only thing you need to worry about is CPU and Mobo. That is usually the most difficult and costly to upgrade.
The thing is that he isn't likely to upgrade since he isn't a computer person (says so in some of his posts).

Yeah, I know. I was talking to the guys above.

Not to mention it's pretty obvious that the OP doesn't know much about computers and probably should not tinker with it anyways. 

I was starting to think this of myself.
Mag-X. I've decided to stick with the websites i posted earlier, as I feel more comfortable and their are in my price range.
I think it boils down to these three pcs. I will later change the graphics card or video card when needed. Right now it's the one with the BEST proccessor that concerns me.

1.
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/610542/HP-WE160AA-ABU/tab/specification

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http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/592951/PACKARD-BELL-IMEDIA-A3520UK/tab/specification#spec
I am more inclined to buy this one because of the proccessor, AMD is supposed to be better then intel?

3.
http://www.comet.co.uk/shopcomet/product/599620/ACER-ASPIRE-X3812/tab/specification#spec
This one seems a good buy but i checked the reviews and a person said that...
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There may come a time when I want to use this PC for gaming, but since it uses an integrated Intel GMAX4500 chip, it may need a dedicated graphics card. Here lies the problem. Due to it's ultra-small form factor, finding a decent half-height PCI-Express x16 card to run on the 220W PSU will be problematic. Acer told me any PCI-E x16 card will fit, but this is not true.

Q:The more proccessor cache a pc has the better? (in scales of mb)
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #31 on: February 04, 2010, 12:18:27 PM »
I don't think those are the best deal, but if you must buy one of those, I would suggest the first one. For the second one, you basically paying an extra £50 for an extra Gig of RAM since the video card is useless for gaming. The third one has a decent processor, but you're not going to be able to fit a gaming video card into it.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #32 on: February 04, 2010, 12:46:25 PM »
Thanks again.


btw, I was thinking of buying a new screen, what would be best for pcs? I.e LCD screen/ monitors. I have a samsung atm which is good, would LED be any good?
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #33 on: February 04, 2010, 01:01:03 PM »
Ebuyer is better than overclockers, which has terrible support and is more expensive generally.

For £500 you're not really going to get a gaming machine unless you build it yourself.

Comet, PC world, curries and all that are basically rip offs.

I started spec'ing you out a good pc from ebuyer but I guess there's no point since it's not the route you're taking....







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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #34 on: February 04, 2010, 01:11:01 PM »
Ebuyer is better than overclockers, which has terrible support and is more expensive generally.

For £500 you're not really going to get a gaming machine unless you build it yourself.

Comet, PC world, curries and all that are basically rip offs.

I started spec'ing you out a good pc from ebuyer but I guess there's no point since it's not the route you're taking....



Noob.

XD

I haven't brought anything yet, was going to buy it today, as I'm the type of person that buys 50% of impulse 50% on research.

But if you generally mean what you say I can wait.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #35 on: February 04, 2010, 01:40:43 PM »
The following list would crush any PC listed previously in this thread.

Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 £81.14
Intel Core i5 750 £150.95
XFX HD 5750 1GB £113.69
Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz £84.99
Compucase 6XR8 Black Full ATX Tower Case £54.74
OCZ Stealth XStream 600W PSU £54.99
Seagate ST3500418AS 500GB Hard Drive £37.39
Samsung SH-S223 22X DVD±RW £14.99

Total: £592.88 (I can go lower if you want)

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/video_how_build_pc_ever_step_explained

Putting a computer together is really not at all that hard, despite how complicated it looks.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #36 on: February 04, 2010, 02:37:04 PM »
^ That, pretty much.

Could skimp a bit on case, psu, and everyone's got DVD drives floating around.

Not convinced you need DDR3 for an i5 either.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #37 on: February 04, 2010, 03:14:13 PM »
Not convinced you need DDR3 for an i5 either.
1156 socket motherboards only use DDR3, and i5s are only for 1156 motherboards.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #38 on: February 04, 2010, 04:07:58 PM »
The following list would crush any PC listed previously in this thread.

Gigabyte GA-P55M-UD2 £81.14
Intel Core i5 750 £150.95
XFX HD 5750 1GB £113.69
Crucial 4GB (2x2GB) DDR3 1333MHz £84.99
Compucase 6XR8 Black Full ATX Tower Case £54.74
OCZ Stealth XStream 600W PSU £54.99
Seagate ST3500418AS 500GB Hard Drive £37.39
Samsung SH-S223 22X DVD±RW £14.99

Total: £592.88 (I can go lower if you want)

http://www.maximumpc.com/article/features/video_how_build_pc_ever_step_explained

Putting a computer together is really not at all that hard, despite how complicated it looks.

if I had more time and money I would have taken this option, but I really don't have the time to build this up, i  got too much work to sort out, I really appreciate your posts.

Was looking on ebuyer and found these two pcs, i think they are much much better then the comet ones.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172711


http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189014

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I find that the second one is much better, graphics and processor wise, I could be wrong.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #39 on: February 04, 2010, 04:16:19 PM »
if I had more time and money I would have taken this option, but I really don't have the time to build this up, i  got too much work to sort out, I really appreciate your posts.

Was looking on ebuyer and found these two pcs, i think they are much much better then the comet ones.

http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172711


http://www.ebuyer.com/product/189014

^
I find that the second one is much better, graphics and processor wise, I could be wrong.
The Acer with the quad core is better. They both have horrible embedded graphics processors. As is, their gaming potential is zero. You'll need to buy and install a good one, the same as all the others.
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