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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #60 on: February 07, 2010, 05:55:01 PM »
Ahh i thought so, i'll check out the anime, i like the whole "beings out of time" and the "holy grail" touch to it
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #61 on: February 07, 2010, 06:54:34 PM »
Start with the Motherboard/Processor. Select those first, and then pick your case according to the ones you selected.

How do you pick a good motherboard?

this one has been reccomended
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/180385
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #62 on: February 07, 2010, 06:57:01 PM »
(You're doing it again :P)

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #63 on: February 07, 2010, 06:58:45 PM »
Well I don't do this on purpose, it's just only in this thread, it's not easy picking parts on a pc you know  :-\
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #64 on: February 07, 2010, 07:00:22 PM »
I use Newegg's reviews on different hardware. They have yet to steer me wrong.

And you really should use your last post to add things instead of double posting.

Edit: Some good mobos i glanced at if your going with an i5 750:

Gigabyte:
Gigabyte P55M-UD2 - Cheap bare bones board, can't go wrong with it.
Gigabyte P55A-UD3 - Note the 6GB/s SATA and USB 3.0 connecters. I'd personally go with this one if i was making another build.

Asus:
ASUS P7P55D - If you plan to crossfire at all and/or want firewire/eSATA on the board.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #65 on: February 07, 2010, 08:11:09 PM »
My process of picking a Motherboard:

1. Pick the processor you want. This is really where you are going to dictate your price level.
2. Pick about how much memory you want (with future upgrades in mind). If it supports up to 8 GB, you are fine. If it supports less than 4, skip it right then and there. Between 8 and 4, it is up to you.
3. Pick about 10 or so motherboards with good reviews which meet these two specifications.
4. Compare their other features and prices to find which one you like best.

Or, if you want to skip that process...

Gigabyte P55A-UD3 - Note the 6GB/s SATA and USB 3.0 connecters. I'd personally go with this one if i was making another build.
Natheria picked an excellent one for you. Gigabyte is reliable, and that price is pretty good as well. I wouldn't do Crossfire or SLI. I don't think it is going to be necessary for you, and I think this is worth the extra 30$ over his other recommendation since it is a bit of a lead in to newer technology.

After you pick out a motherboard and processor, then we can pick the Case, PSU, GPU, HDD and Memory depending on how much spending money you have remaining. Those are much easier to upgrade later on.
« Last Edit: February 07, 2010, 08:17:46 PM by Xtras »

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #66 on: February 07, 2010, 08:51:56 PM »
My process of picking a Motherboard:

1. Pick the processor you want. This is really where you are going to dictate your price level.
2. Pick about how much memory you want (with future upgrades in mind). If it supports up to 8 GB, you are fine. If it supports less than 4, skip it right then and there. Between 8 and 4, it is up to you.
3. Pick about 10 or so motherboards with good reviews which meet these two specifications.
4. Compare their other features and prices to find which one you like best.

Or, if you want to skip that process...

Gigabyte P55A-UD3 - Note the 6GB/s SATA and USB 3.0 connecters. I'd personally go with this one if i was making another build.
Natheria picked an excellent one for you. Gigabyte is reliable, and that price is pretty good as well. I wouldn't do Crossfire or SLI. I don't think it is going to be necessary for you, and I think this is worth the extra 30$ over his other recommendation since it is a bit of a lead in to newer technology.

After you pick out a motherboard and processor, then we can pick the Case, PSU, GPU, HDD and Memory depending on how much spending money you have remaining. Those are much easier to upgrade later on.

I go with a similar but slightly different process.

1. Pick processor you want, decide on the overall pricepoint of your system with this choice
2. Decide how many videocards you want 1, 2, 3, or maybe even 4? Or maybe onboard video is good enough for ya.
3. Decide on the form factor you want to go with. Do you want a Behemoth computer or are you making a micro atx pc for HTPC etc etc.
4. Using your price point of your processor start limiting the boards down based on your socket for that processor and step 2, and 3 to decide what form factor your lookin for and how many pcie slots you need.
5. Decide definitively on the most your spending on your mobos and decide if there is any brands you personally prefer over others. (i personally will never buy asus again, but am a fan of MSI and Gigabyte atm.)
6. Sort by rating and start reading through the shitty ratings in the good boards skipping over the ITS DOA 1 Star.
7. Compare the units you like that all meet the specs you desire taking price into consideration as well as ratings from users.

Pick one.

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #67 on: February 07, 2010, 10:40:14 PM »
I use Newegg's reviews on different hardware. They have yet to steer me wrong.

And you really should use your last post to add things instead of double posting.

Edit: Some good mobos i glanced at if your going with an i5 750:

Gigabyte:
Gigabyte P55M-UD2 - Cheap bare bones board, can't go wrong with it.
Gigabyte P55A-UD3 - Note the 6GB/s SATA and USB 3.0 connecters. I'd personally go with this one if i was making another build.

Asus:
ASUS P7P55D - If you plan to crossfire at all and/or want firewire/eSATA on the board.


I don't understand the use of firewire, crossfire or esata in normal terms.


Gigabyte P55A-UD3 - Note the 6GB/s SATA and USB 3.0 connecters. I'd personally go with this one if i was making another build.
Natheria picked an excellent one for you. Gigabyte is reliable, and that price is pretty good as well. I wouldn't do Crossfire or SLI. I don't think it is going to be necessary for you, and I think this is worth the extra 30$ over his other recommendation since it is a bit of a lead in to newer technology.

After you pick out a motherboard and processor, then we can pick the Case, PSU, GPU, HDD and Memory depending on how much spending money you have remaining. Those are much easier to upgrade later on.
Okay
So here's the Processor and motherboard:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813128412
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/172755

^ About the motherboard, I want to buy it from ebuyer as newegg does not ship to the uk, I really can't tell the difference between them all in the search http://www.ebuyer.com/search?q=GIGABYTE+GA-P55A-UD3+LGA+1156+Intel+P55+SATA+6Gb%2Fs&x=0&y=0
Need some help



I go with a similar but slightly different process.

1. Pick processor you want, decide on the overall pricepoint of your system with this choice
2. Decide how many videocards you want 1, 2, 3, or maybe even 4? Or maybe onboard video is good enough for ya.
3. Decide on the form factor you want to go with. Do you want a Behemoth computer or are you making a micro atx pc for HTPC etc etc.
4. Using your price point of your processor start limiting the boards down based on your socket for that processor and step 2, and 3 to decide what form factor your lookin for and how many pcie slots you need.
5. Decide definitively on the most your spending on your mobos and decide if there is any brands you personally prefer over others. (i personally will never buy asus again, but am a fan of MSI and Gigabyte atm.)
6. Sort by rating and start reading through the shitty ratings in the good boards skipping over the ITS DOA 1 Star.
7. Compare the units you like that all meet the specs you desire taking price into consideration as well as ratings from users.

Pick one.
2. Okay why would ~I need 2-3-4 video cards? Aren't you supposed to buy one?
3. I'm not quite sure what's a form factor, but I know slim form factor is a design for a case for desktops. (is there a acronyms for pc building list?) Cuz I don't understant the rest. But I want a slim form factor if that means, slim desktop.
4. Damn that went over my head XDDD
5. I think I'll go for gigabyte( I didn't know that was the brand name XDD)


I just hope the parts I pick out are compatible
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #68 on: February 07, 2010, 11:06:13 PM »
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #69 on: February 07, 2010, 11:49:13 PM »
I don't see the purpose in him getting an after market CPU cooler. He doesn't seem like the type to try to get 4GHz out of the CPU.
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #70 on: February 08, 2010, 12:02:32 AM »
Meh, I just copied it from another website...

But it's not exactly hard to change one number (all it takes these days) to OC the cpu a bit..
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #71 on: February 08, 2010, 01:44:28 AM »

I don't understand the use of firewire, crossfire or esata in normal terms.

Think of firewire (A.K.A IEEE) and eSATA (external SATA, SATA being the connection internal drives use) as faster USB. Apple uses firewire extensively and both are often used as faster connections for external hard drives (since USB 2.0 is slow as shit!).

CrossfireX (for ATI) and SLI (for nVidia) are the means with which you connect two or more video cards in a PC (Ever seen something like This before?).

^ About the motherboard, I want to buy it from ebuyer as newegg does not ship to the uk, I really can't tell the difference between them all in the search http://www.ebuyer.com/search?q=GIGABYTE+GA-P55A-UD3+LGA+1156+Intel+P55+SATA+6Gb%2Fs&x=0&y=0
Need some help

Even if you don't live in the U.S. or Canada and experience the magic that is Newegg first hand (oh, how i love thee), it's still a fantastic place to look at reviews for different parts. You won't find a more extensive data base to check through parts before you buy them. ^_^

I can't seem to find the exact model at ebuyer. All they seem to have is the P55A-UD3R. This is frustrating. Is their any other website or vender for Europe? Maybe I'm spoiled now but i don't like how ebuyer has their site set up. HARRUMPH! *Goes back to browsing Newegg*

2. Okay why would ~I need 2-3-4 video cards? Aren't you supposed to buy one?
3. I'm not quite sure what's a form factor, but I know slim form factor is a design for a case for desktops. (is there a acronyms for pc building list?) Cuz I don't understant the rest. But I want a slim form factor if that means, slim desktop.
4. Damn that went over my head XDDD
5. I think I'll go for gigabyte( I didn't know that was the brand name XDD)

2. Enthusiasts often put 2 or even more video cards in to get the most out of their epeen computer's performance. (refer to Crossfire/SLI) The most cost effective way to get the most out of a computer you build yourself though is to just buy one, which is what most normal people do. You really don't need to worry too much about this.
3. form factor refers to the shape etc of the mother board. You should make sure that the case you buy supports the form factor of the motherboard you'r getting (A.K.A, make sure they drilled the holes in the right place!) The two most common forms are ATX and Micro ATX which is your standard size motherboards. There is also ridiculously tiny ones like ITX and Mini-ITX which you don't really need to worry about (Just so you know, their really small).
4. All in good time.  8) Actually i thought there used to be a place on Newegg's site that had a reference for a lot of the names and acronyms of parts that i was going to link. Can't seem to find it.

I just hope the parts I pick out are compatible

Always double check that your parts are compatible. There are a lot of things that need to match and it's the worst feeling in the world when you realize that the parts don't match. just ask GoGoTa.  :D
« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 01:49:23 AM by Natheria »

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« Reply #72 on: February 08, 2010, 02:32:14 AM »
With the core i series, I hear that you can get pretty serious overclocking with just the stock cooler itself. Either way, I don't see why he would need to take it past stock clock settings.

Nor do I think you really need multiple graphics cards. Just too much hassle, and you aren't going to need that much performance for a long time if you do get that Radeon card that was recommended, or even one that is a bit weaker than that.

As for parts being compatible, it usually isn't too much hassle to check. My dad essentially had me buy the processor and mobo first, and then had me read the manuals and make an exact list of what memory and graphics types the mobo supported. Then, when all components were bought, I used this to calculate what PSU I would need.

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #73 on: February 08, 2010, 03:08:42 AM »
I've never really been a fan of multiple video cards either. It's way too much hassle and you just don't get a real big upgrade in performance for the money you invest in it.

I love that PSU calc. btw! So bookmarked!  8)

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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #74 on: February 08, 2010, 11:54:30 AM »
Yeah,  not so sure about i5, but the i7 920 I have went easily to 3.5 on stock, could probably hit 4.0ghz with an aftermarket cooler (mine is a work machine... grrr). I guess I'm just used to everything I do being VERY cpu based rather than graphics based.

Multiple gfx cards seems like a waste really... At least until OpenCL/Cuda stuff matures ;)

As for defining terms - Onoz needs to learn that even if google doesn't like him, he can still use it to find information :P
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #75 on: February 08, 2010, 07:00:12 PM »

Think of firewire (A.K.A IEEE) and eSATA (external SATA, SATA being the connection internal drives use) as faster USB. Apple uses firewire extensively and both are often used as faster connections for external hard drives (since USB 2.0 is slow as shit!).

CrossfireX (for ATI) and SLI (for nVidia) are the means with which you connect two or more video cards in a PC (Ever seen something like This before?).

I won't need firewire.
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Even if you don't live in the U.S. or Canada and experience the magic that is Newegg first hand (oh, how i love thee), it's still a fantastic place to look at reviews for different parts. You won't find a more extensive data base to check through parts before you buy them. ^_^

That is sad, I think all of humanity needs a newegg.

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I can't seem to find the exact model at ebuyer. All they seem to have is the P55A-UD3R. This is frustrating. Is their any other website or vender for Europe? Maybe I'm spoiled now but i don't like how ebuyer has their site set up. HARRUMPH! *Goes back to browsing Newegg*

The one we are looking for is the GA-P55-UD3L correct?
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2. Enthusiasts often put 2 or even more video cards in to get the most out of their epeen computer's performance. (refer to Crossfire/SLI) The most cost effective way to get the most out of a computer you build yourself though is to just buy one, which is what most normal people do. You really don't need to worry too much about this.
3. form factor refers to the shape etc of the mother board. You should make sure that the case you buy supports the form factor of the motherboard you'r getting (A.K.A, make sure they drilled the holes in the right place!) The two most common forms are ATX and Micro ATX which is your standard size motherboards. There is also ridiculously tiny ones like ITX and Mini-ITX which you don't really need to worry about (Just so you know, their really small).
Right, form factor = shape of the motherboard. So the GD-P55-UD3L is a normal ATX factor and
the case i must buy must support ATX

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Always double check that your parts are compatible. There are a lot of things that need to match and it's the worst feeling in the world when you realize that the parts don't match. just ask GoGoTa.  :D

I will ty

btw who is gogota, (checked on the members list of this forum)
« Last Edit: February 08, 2010, 07:27:22 PM by Osmo »
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Re: Buying a new pc ( for gaming) need recomendations
« Reply #76 on: February 09, 2010, 12:01:53 AM »
The one we are looking for is the GA-P55-UD3L correct?

No, you're looking for the GA-P55A-UD3 (no extra letters after the UD3) if you can find it.

btw who is gogota, (checked on the members list of this forum)

Oh, sorry it's GoGeTa006. Don't heed my offhand comment all that much. I'm just still razin him for forcing a CPU in the wrong socket.  :D (Protip: AM2+ socket is different from AM3)
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« Reply #77 on: February 09, 2010, 01:05:43 AM »
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