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AMD confusion (and nonchalant intel talk)
GoGeTa006:
--- Quote from: Natheria on February 04, 2010, 10:49:40 PM ---Can you link us the mobos you were thinking of using?
I kinda got the feeling i missed something from the original question. Does this have to do with chip sets or sockets? Because x4/II x4 are AM2+/AM3.
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ok then. . .so the only thing that matters is the socket type?
have i been tricked all this time?
let me rephrase my original question, see if i can get it a bit more clear.
When I buy an intel chip i check the motherboard to be compatible
(example)
I want a core2quad. . .I look for motherboards compatible with core2quad. . .simple
I want an i7/i5/i3 . . .I look for a motherboard compatible with i7/i5/i3. . .simple also
when it comes to AMD
I want a Phenom II x4. . .(say i dont know (now i do) but say i dont know that socket thing)
Im looking at motherboard's "compatibility" - Phenom II x2 / Athlon II <-- not ocmpatible with II x4?
or another example Phenom x4 / Athlon x4 <----- not compatible with Phenom II x4?
Thing is Phenom II and Phenom are the same thing? (same for athlon)
if the socket is the same (say am2) a motherboard will read Phenom II x4 / Phenom II x2 / Phenom II / Phenom x4 / Phenom x2 ? (if they are all am2)
Lupin:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on February 05, 2010, 04:54:41 AM ---Thing is Phenom II and Phenom are the same thing? (same for athlon)
if the socket is the same (say am2) a motherboard will read Phenom II x4 / Phenom II x2 / Phenom II / Phenom x4 / Phenom x2 ? (if they are all am2)
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Phenom II != Phenom
kyanwan:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on February 04, 2010, 06:55:54 AM ---MM sounds interesting. . .using the client as guinea pig. . .cause i have this build (assuming the processors are compatible)
without piece specs
Athlon II x4 @ 2.6 Ghz
4 GB RAM
512 Radeon vid card
500 GB 7200 rpm HD
19" Monitor
======================
598
+ tax n shipping
678
would be charging around 800. . .iono if she'll think its worth it. . .cause seeing the market you can get a whole (crappy) desktop for around 600 (w monitor). . .and windows 7 original key (i'd have to share my vista key. . .i have 7 now)
so im at a loss
i dont think she'll be gaming. . .so prolly a crappy compaq or dell would suit her. . .but why did she ask me then =.= ill talk to her l8r on
just checked best buy. . .theres an AMD sempron compaq desktop (w monitor) for 350. . .
or go with a mobo with integrated graphic card. can drop the price for her to 650
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You'll need to consider this as well -
the equipment you'll be setting her up with is NOT BY A LONGSHOT the same as you'd get with a market box PC that's the same price, or less. What you're giving is modular, upgradable, customizable - and far more versatile & better quality.
What you normally get with those value PCs is stripped down equipment that usually sucks - almost always sucks.
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BTW - grats with your success @ RMA.
sdedalus83:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on February 05, 2010, 04:54:41 AM ---I want a Phenom II x4. . .(say i dont know (now i do) but say i dont know that socket thing)
Im looking at motherboard's "compatibility" - Phenom II x2 / Athlon II <-- not ocmpatible with II x4?
or another example Phenom x4 / Athlon x4 <----- not compatible with Phenom II x4?[/color]
Thing is Phenom II and Phenom are the same thing? (same for athlon)
if the socket is the same (say am2) a motherboard will read Phenom II x4 / Phenom II x2 / Phenom II / Phenom x4 / Phenom x2 ? (if they are all am2)
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The first Phenom sucked ass. It couldn't clock worth shit, and the performance was barely better than an Athlon 64. Phenom II and Athlon II chips have been known to overclock really, really well and their performance is reasonably close to that of a similarly clocked Core 2.
All AM3 CPUs, Phenom II X2, X3, and X4, Athlon II X2, X3, and X4, will work on all AM3 and all AM2/2+ motherboards. AM3 means DDR3, which AM2 and AM2+ chips(All Phenoms, some Athlon II and Phenom II) do not support. AM3 chips can use either DDR2 or DDR3, depending upon the motherboard used.
At this point, there's no reason to get an AM2 or 2+ board unless you need to save $50 - $70 on the board and memory, or if you already have an AM2 or 2+ board and want to upgrade processors. Just get an AM3 board and AM3 processor. You'll still spend less than you would on a dual core i3 chip and matching board.
Natheria:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on February 05, 2010, 04:54:41 AM ---When I buy an intel chip i check the motherboard to be compatible
(example)
I want a core2quad. . .I look for motherboards compatible with core2quad. . .simple
I want an i7/i5/i3 . . .I look for a motherboard compatible with i7/i5/i3. . .simple also
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This will get you in trouble if your not careful. You wouldn't want to buy an i7 with a Bloomfield core and try sticking it into an 1156 socket.
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