Author Topic: Future of augmented reality (Read 2137 times)

lapa321 · « **on:** February 10, 2010, 04:58:27 AM »

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fSfKlCmYcLc

I've always fantasized about augmented reality and it was enforced by anime's like Denna Coil and Appleseed, but this realistic depiction of what it'll be like is kinda shattering :'(

Cypher · « **Reply #1 on:** February 10, 2010, 07:34:00 AM »

Shattering indeed... If this vision becomes a reality I'll just hope I'll be in a financial situation that allows me to keep ads off.

molbjerg · « **Reply #2 on:** February 10, 2010, 08:55:49 AM »

I'd want no part of a reality where every surface is adverts...

Also, it's quite funny how he laid out grids of masking tape so he could camera track better

Current AR...:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ud8wbrRKPIU

AceHigh · « **Reply #3 on:** February 10, 2010, 03:09:48 PM »

Yes ofcourse! Because I so want to downgrade my real eye resolution which can be compared to 550 - 600 megapixels to crappy 4 megapixel camera view

Seriously, biological engineering of humans by evolusion is a technology that is still far ahead than what we make ourselves.

molbjerg · « **Reply #4 on:** February 10, 2010, 04:05:57 PM »

Quote from: AceHigh on February 10, 2010, 03:09:48 PM

Seriously, biological engineering of humans by evolusion is a technology that is still far ahead than what we make ourselves.

O RLY?

However, you get some glasses, or an unnoticable contact lens which can overlay information and you get something interesting. Especially if it can tap into the retina optic nerve and get directly at the info, then you could digital zoom etc... I wonder how good digital zoom on human vision would be... hmm.

lapa321 · « **Reply #5 on:** February 10, 2010, 05:02:08 PM »

I wonder what it'd be like to play a dating sim on that thing.

NaRu · « **Reply #6 on:** February 10, 2010, 08:22:59 PM »

if they can stream the information directly to the brain then I would love it

fohfoh · « **Reply #7 on:** February 11, 2010, 03:33:49 AM »

Quote from: molbjerg on February 10, 2010, 04:05:57 PM

Quote from: AceHigh on February 10, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
Seriously, biological engineering of humans by evolusion is a technology that is still far ahead than what we make ourselves.
O RLY?

However, you get some glasses, or an unnoticable contact lens which can overlay information and you get something interesting. Especially if it can tap into the retina optic nerve and get directly at the info, then you could digital zoom etc... I wonder how good digital zoom on human vision would be... hmm.

While I'd argue that you'd need a powerful computer (AKA the brain) to actually "Zoom", it still does makes one wonder. Is the human eye the best lens of its size? Or would something like a hawks eye blow that shit out of the water? Or does it require some "computing power" to reach potential (AKA Brain computation).

sanguis · « **Reply #8 on:** February 11, 2010, 06:36:13 AM »

Quote from: fohfoh on February 11, 2010, 03:33:49 AM

Quote from: molbjerg on February 10, 2010, 04:05:57 PM
Quote from: AceHigh on February 10, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
Seriously, biological engineering of humans by evolusion is a technology that is still far ahead than what we make ourselves.
O RLY?

However, you get some glasses, or an unnoticable contact lens which can overlay information and you get something interesting. Especially if it can tap into the retina optic nerve and get directly at the info, then you could digital zoom etc... I wonder how good digital zoom on human vision would be... hmm.

While I'd argue that you'd need a powerful computer (AKA the brain) to actually "Zoom", it still does makes one wonder. Is the human eye the best lens of its size? Or would something like a hawks eye blow that shit out of the water? Or does it require some "computing power" to reach potential (AKA Brain computation).

A bird of preys eyes can hands down bet just about any other predator out there (not sure about there colour vision though), they have eyes that allow them to read standard sized writing from hundreds of meters away. There brains aren't that impressive, relatively speaking. If you get a 3 megapixel camera and stick a $2,000 lens on it you would get much better pictures than if you didn't use the lens.

Additionally with quantum computing you can get very powerful computers (as good as a human brain if not better) in something the size of a grain of sand; inject one of those into your brain and you've doubled you processing power and infinitely increased your (know eidetic) memory. If you were to have as many quantum computers as you did brain cells then you would be so far beyond human as to be incomprehensible.

As to the OP; I do find some of those features to be useful, like having a timer on the kettle and being able to watch M*A*S*H on the kitchen wall, it would improve multi-tasking a great deal.

AceHigh · « **Reply #9 on:** February 11, 2010, 03:36:57 PM »

Quote from: molbjerg on February 10, 2010, 04:05:57 PM

Quote from: AceHigh on February 10, 2010, 03:09:48 PM
Seriously, biological engineering of humans by evolusion is a technology that is still far ahead than what we make ourselves.
O RLY?

Yes, none of the stuff you mentioned exists yet, so I rest my case.

molbjerg · « **Reply #10 on:** February 11, 2010, 04:45:20 PM »

It seems you missed my point....

You still rely on your eyes to see things, but have information overlayed upon reality when needed...

Glasses with heads up displays exist, a matter of time till that tech gets even better.

lapa321 · « **Reply #11 on:** February 11, 2010, 05:54:01 PM »

@molbjerg
Yeah, we already have the tech to make display glasses.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3C9TI5SrTkM

That video was from 2 years ago. Developed just a bit further and you can probably make one that really does look like a pair of eyeglasses.

You can probably stream the image data wirelessly over bluetooth from a small processor unit (i.e. A smartphone), hand gestures can be read by accelerometers and proximity sensors built into a watch and ring. Both already exists. The only question now is how long it would take for smartphones to be powerful enough to process all that data and render the interface in real time.

Nikaido · « **Reply #12 on:** February 12, 2010, 12:41:51 AM »

That shit scared me. Just the ads alone seem overwhelming. That's worst than having commercials in your dreams. (Futurama reference)

Viseroid · « **Reply #13 on:** February 12, 2010, 08:53:10 AM »

If I had AR I'd probably have ten different channels of TV running at the corner of my vision.
I'd be more interested in looking at someone and seeing if they were single than making a cup of tea. It'd be cool if you could tag real life objects objects using AR. There are some alleys in downtown Seattle that constantly reek of piss so I could tag "smells like bum piss" around the corner so people could avoid them.

molbjerg · « **Reply #14 on:** February 12, 2010, 09:06:51 AM »

Quote from: Viseroid on February 12, 2010, 08:53:10 AM

If I had AR I'd probably have ten different channels of TV running at the corner of my vision.
I'd be more interested in looking at someone and seeing if they were single than making a cup of tea. It'd be cool if you could tag real life objects objects using AR. There are some alleys in downtown Seattle that constantly reek of piss so I could tag "smells like bum piss" around the corner so people could avoid them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b64_16K2e08

Something like that works with GPS and compass, though it isn't truly tagging an object by the handset understanding what it is.

There are some crazy video 'understanding' apps, although basically for the military etc. like suspicious packages video trackers and stuff.

But yeah, seeing a pretty girl and you get tags such as:
23 years old, straight, rated C on intelligence...
8 comments: Gives crap blowjobs, bad at washing up...

BuriaL · « **Reply #15 on:** February 12, 2010, 02:37:31 PM »

Quote from: fohfoh on February 11, 2010, 03:33:49 AM

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While I'd argue that you'd need a powerful computer (AKA the brain) to actually "Zoom", it still does makes one wonder. Is the human eye the best lens of its size? Or would something like a hawks eye blow that shit out of the water? Or does it require some "computing power" to reach potential (AKA Brain computation).

Birds may have better eyes, but theyre brains are made for it.

I read something about what advanced laser treatment would do to a person if he got "hawk sight".
It would flood the brain with to much sensory information, causing the person to go insane.

Cant find any info about it on the net for some reason. Maybe somone else can dig in the google pile.

DeadSpaceX · « **Reply #16 on:** February 16, 2010, 05:59:40 AM »

Quote from: BuriaL on February 12, 2010, 02:37:31 PM

Quote from: fohfoh on February 11, 2010, 03:33:49 AM
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While I'd argue that you'd need a powerful computer (AKA the brain) to actually "Zoom", it still does makes one wonder. Is the human eye the best lens of its size? Or would something like a hawks eye blow that shit out of the water? Or does it require some "computing power" to reach potential (AKA Brain computation).

Birds may have better eyes, but theyre brains are made for it.

I read something about what advanced laser treatment would do to a person if he got "hawk sight".
It would flood the brain with to much sensory information, causing the person to go insane.

Cant find any info about it on the net for some reason. Maybe somone else can dig in the google pile.

Sensory overload happens at birth, the brain adjusts...and continues to adjust throughout life. No quantum supercomputer can match that resilience. It can be programmed to handle input, sort and filter...the human brain does it automatically though. Your eyes, ears, sense of smell, of touch, and not just your hands, your skin, the clothes you wear(how they feel), wind, temp, vibration, everything gets input and then filtered down to what your conscious mind needs to know. In the case of extreme overload in some people = fainting, pc terms...shutdown and reboot. That's why you'll sometimes see people faint more than once if whatever is causing the overload is still around.

Human eyes average around 500~600 megapixels, there are limitations so bird or other animal sight capabilities are limited by how many rods/cones can be added and utilized since they are a predetermined size( you can only pack so many in a given area). Birds, depending on species include UV spectrum and infrared visual capabilities. So human eye isn't the best...but it works for what humans need to use it for

. We don't really need UV or infrared capable vision.

If you really think about how much input you receive through all your senses in 1 second...you realize how amazing the brain really is. It sorts, filters, and then hands you (usually) only what you need to know realtime (no perceivable lag). and does this throughout your life. As well as storing memories, controlling your body, enabling speech and letting you think...

Augmented reality...still years away, and no doubt once fully implemented their will be those that can't handle the load. i can't wait

ads will be ignored (filtered)...as they are on web pages now.

isukianime · « **Reply #17 on:** February 16, 2010, 01:26:59 PM »

it's already available on bing maps. The video is in Engish

http://www.ted.com/talks/blaise_aguera.html

nstgc · « **Reply #18 on:** February 16, 2010, 09:56:15 PM »

I have little interest in replacing my sight with a computer stream, but I do like the idea for an overlay.

I see the video that Lapa posted as being something we can achieve in 100 years perhaps. It can be done before that, but it won't be main stream.

ilk3000 · « **Reply #19 on:** February 17, 2010, 12:35:26 AM »

The Golden Age, by John C. Wright had an interesting setting, where everyone is in their own augmented reality and aesthetics are negotiated and experienced differently between the perceptions of different individuals. For a general instance, I see clothes and objects and other things as being concurrent with a classical Greek aesthetic and you see the same things in a neo-Japanese aesthetic.