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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #140 on: August 09, 2010, 05:07:40 AM »
Arlong was giving the fishermans more of a bad name.. And Jinbei is someone that doesn't want that.
So I doubt as well that they will be enemies...
While this does supports Jimbei to join the crew more then Hancock.. I still hope non of those two will join...

Perhaps....
Would Oda really do that?...
Who do we see now... Which has not really a use (imo) for being in the story since Gecko Moria got pwned....
Who is stuck with Zoro?
Exactly.. Perona
Altho she aint one of the monster classes... She is mid tier O.o
(Even tho I'm not quite sure that I want her in).
I just don't think we can rule her out as well O.o
Since she is with Zoro now.. Stuck with him for 2 years, you don't think she will get a huge affection boost with Zoro?

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It wouldn't be the first time that an old enemy would join the crew...
Look at how Franky started out.
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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #141 on: August 09, 2010, 03:55:27 PM »
When Franky joined the crew, it was a gradual integration process of Usopp moving him to tears, him getting involved in the whole Nico Robin arc because of his own past and subsequently siding with the strawhats when it mattered.

Perona has a few problems to handle before she'd become a candidate for joining the crew. First she's currently obsessed with learning what happened to Moria, she's therefore still very loyal to him. She's still a subordinate, even though Moria's dead. Moreover, when she learns that Doflamingo got Moria, she'll want revenge on him for sure, and she's in fact one of the better matches to deal with Doflamingo's ability to boot. And most importantly, she currently only got attached to Zoro because she was lonely, but she still hates Usopp's gut for what he did to her and her animal companions. She has other priorities. She will surely tag along with Zoro to uncover the truth about Moria, but more must be resolved before she'd be a candidate to joining the crew.

Plus, she has a characteristic "custom evil laughter" that Oda's biggest villains all have (Arlong, Crocodile, Enel, Moria, Blackbeard off the top of my head). *Foreshadowing*
(Not to be confused with the custom heartfelt laughter that all giants to date have)

Actually this also makes me realize something interesting too. Franky and Brook were both leaders of a team. Zoro, Nami, Usopp, Sanji, Robin were all in a position where they led people at some point or another(Zoro's his bounty hunter friends, Nami is the village's security she took charge of, Usopp was his Usopp pirates(fitting for him), Sanji was assistant to the head chef, Robin was Miss Allsunday in BW) Chopper is the only character who had never really played a leader role before joining the crew, and right now he's pretty much leading mediation between 2 groups. It's a very subtle trend, but if anything it suggests that the crew is a crew of leaders of some sort, and therefore the 10th member should also have been influential at some point to follow that trend.

This would make Perona kind of valid(she was a vice-commander of the Moria pirates) but it doesn't discount Jimbei or Hancock one bit. I'm getting really curious now. :D

(Random tangent: If we're mentioning Perona maybe we should mention HERACLES'N! ...but let's not XD)

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #142 on: August 09, 2010, 04:10:57 PM »
Moria is not dead.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #143 on: August 09, 2010, 04:13:13 PM »
Good point, tho we shouldn't rule out any of those 3 atleast...
We never know with Oda.. Even tho she has an evil laugh =P

(Random tangent: If we're mentioning Perona maybe we should mention HERACLES'N! ...but let's not XD)

PLEASE NO!

Anyhow... I'm as well getting more curious.. Specialy now we are speculating about it -_-
Leader type... Marguaret... Kinda >_>
Altho I think that Luffy will learn Haki controll from Rayleigh.

Damn these speculations >_>
Why did I brought it up ._.
I WANNA KNOW !!!
Meh


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Crocodile would be funny to have as crewmember =P
To bad he allready got plans with Mr. One >_>

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #144 on: August 11, 2010, 10:15:20 PM »
The only thing I see is that all of the crew have various reasons for sailing with Luffy. Various dreams that they want to accomplish that can only be done by getting to the New World and beyond.

Jimbei and Hancock have no goals that require travelling with Luffy to accomplish. Jimbei wants to protect his land and Hancock wants to protect hers but is also in love with Luffy. Also, all the crew members have pasts that Luffy has helped solve for them. I don't think Jimbei and Hancock have any problems at the moment that require solving.

For those reasons I don't think that they will join up. They will probably become allies like Whitebeard has his vast amount of allies. Perhaps at the final hurdle the World Government manages to catch Luffy and all his allies will come out to save him. *shrugs*

If Perona finds out that Don killed Moria then that may serve as her reason to travel with Luffy and his crew I suppose though personally I would love if all 3 joined but that is just wishful thinking.

Another thing is that I would like to see Jewelery becoming a crew mate later. Base it around the same way that Luffy got all his other crewmembers. Luffy and his crew meet her and save her from something indirectly while saving themselves. She agrees to join if Luffy can help her achieve some goal.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #145 on: August 11, 2010, 11:35:54 PM »
Again, Moria is not dead.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #146 on: August 12, 2010, 12:27:34 AM »
Let's make it clearer!

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #147 on: August 12, 2010, 12:38:51 AM »
Wonder whos that marine hes talking to. Must be at least a something-admiral rank.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #148 on: August 12, 2010, 12:41:02 AM »
Moria is dead.
I agree with Enzedder : Jimbei and Hancock won't be joining the crew.... but I can't be really sure since this is Oda we're talking about.
.... How about Bon Kurei as the new member(If he's still alive)?
 
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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #149 on: August 12, 2010, 01:10:56 AM »
Wonder whos that marine hes talking to. Must be at least a something-admiral rank.
It's one of the Gorousei obviously...

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #150 on: August 12, 2010, 01:22:56 AM »
That page must've missed my attention. Moria isn't dead yet, there's even less reason for Perona to join the crew.

Jimbei's issue is the safety of Fishman island against the ever-increasing threat of pirates crossing the Red Line and stopping there. Luffy isn't the kind of guy to let stuff like that just happen, as we've seen when he punched a Tenryuubito. If Luffy can somehow guarantee the safety of Fishman island, Jimbei would join without even the shadow of a doubt.

Hancock as a Shichibukai needs to remain a Shichibukai to protect Amazon Lily, so it's unlikely she'll abandons that, though she might become Luffy's undercover "agent" in the marines, as she did when she got him in Impel Down in the first place for example. She wouldn't be a crewmember, but she'll remain an ally for sure. (besides, what better wife for the Pirate King then the Pirate Emperess? XD)

Bon-chan would've been a good candidate, but then he stayed back at Impel Down. I doubt he'll be escaping on his own, or that Luffy will just go back for him. We also don't even know just how badly Magellan poisoned him, and whether he recovered or not(though since it's Oda we're talking about, he's probably not dead yet.)


As for the Marine's identity, my bet is Akainu. Borsallino is too dumb to use tactics at all, and the ice dude only follows orders, he has shown no agenda. Moreover, all we know about Akainu is how much of a complete jerk he is.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #151 on: August 12, 2010, 01:30:42 AM »
As for the Marine's identity, my bet is Akainu. Borsallino is too dumb to use tactics at all, and the ice dude only follows orders, he has shown no agenda. Moreover, all we know about Akainu is how much of a complete jerk he is.
Don't put money on that bet, it's one of the Gorousei........... .........

Not to mention Akainu would melt his face off for talking to him like that, just lol...

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #152 on: August 12, 2010, 02:12:01 AM »
It's neither one of the admirals nor one of the Gorousei, imo. None of them has that man's build. They are all much taller.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #153 on: August 12, 2010, 02:57:47 AM »
Thinking it's someone new and not 1 of the admirals.

About Bon-Chan.
It's hard to think that he survived.
Magalan was angry... He's losing his position for sure as warden after such an outbreak... You think he would let the person live that made the escape possible? O.o

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #154 on: August 12, 2010, 07:46:24 AM »
There is the possibility that Bon-chan survived, because of 2 things:

-Magellan was reported heavily wounded "in the commotion", but it's been established Bon-chan couldn't have even hurt Magellan, let alone heavily wound him.
-We didn't clearly see Blackbeard leave Impel Down. We have no idea when, where or how he clashed with Magellan to put him in that state. But it has to be him that put Magellan in the so-called "heavily wounded" state.

Hm, you're right about the fact that Akainu would melt Doflamingo's face off if such a talk occured. It can't be an admiral that planned Moria's death then. It has to be a character that hasn't been properly introduced yet.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #155 on: August 12, 2010, 10:55:46 AM »
There's also the possibility of blackbeard interrupting magellan just before he strikes the final blow which resulted in this whole commotion of magellan being heavily wounded. But if that's the case then bon-chan has a very slim chance of surviving :P.
And about the marine's identity... he seems to be an important person since he's talking to doflamingo and doflamingo threatens him even though he has a lot of power within the government, if it were a normal soldier then doflamingo would have probably killed him :P.
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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #156 on: August 12, 2010, 11:13:26 AM »
There's also the possibility of blackbeard interrupting magellan just before he strikes the final blow which resulted in this whole commotion of magellan being heavily wounded. But if that's the case then bon-chan has a very slim chance of surviving :P.

Wanted to say that after reading Khundes his post =P

Tho I would love to see Bon-Kurei as a crew member, he just rocks 8D
I highly doubt that he will ever join them tho.. He just doesn't seem to fit in.. In some way O.o

And about the marine's identity... he seems to be an important person since he's talking to doflamingo and doflamingo threatens him even though he has a lot of power within the government, if it were a normal soldier then doflamingo would have probably killed him :P.

Really curious who he is xD


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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #157 on: August 12, 2010, 11:33:57 AM »
Wanted to say that after reading Khundes his post =P

Tho I would love to see Bon-Kurei as a crew member, he just rocks 8D
I highly doubt that he will ever join them tho.. He just doesn't seem to fit in.. In some way O.o

Bon-Kurei is hilarious!! Even I would love to see Bon-Kurei as a crew member :D.
You might be right about him not joining.... but luffy might invite him if he gets the opportunity since bon kurei saved his life.

Really curious who he is xD

I'm also curious about him :D. I became even more interested after reading everyone's post over here :P.
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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #158 on: August 12, 2010, 12:47:34 PM »
Let's make it clearer!

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I was under the impression that from that Don was lying to that person pretending that Moria just disappeared instead of being killed. Re-reading it again though, I see that he was probably telling the truth. Sorry about the misunderstanding.

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Re: One Piece [Manga Discussion]
« Reply #159 on: August 12, 2010, 05:56:05 PM »
Another thing to consider about Bon-chan(and even Moria) is that One Piece's author is Oda, and Oda does not kill characters.

Ever since One Piece started, a total of One character died "in present time", otherwise it'd only be in backstories. Crocodile got punched enough to have his body be used as a cushion to break through meters of bedrock, and then he flew higher then 10 stories before crashing down again, and he was still alive.

I was surprised when I saw mentions of Moria dead, because of that fact. Turns out he isn't. :P I'm betting on Oda's quirk for Bon-chan to be alive. XD (Especially if the chapter after characters say "we don't know for sure that he's dead yet", that just screams Oda saying "He's still alive, and he'll be back!")