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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #20 on: February 14, 2010, 07:33:17 PM »
But what is the limit for the file size on the NTFS?
Please don't tell me it's 4 GB or something like that... I have files that are almost 10 GB on me :(
NTFS file size limit is ~16 terabytes (current implementation). The theoretical limit is ~16 exabytes

I think the limitation on Fat 32 (4GB) is also an OS thing. Since NTFS on Vista can do files over 4GB (32bit) but Win XP pro cannot (32bit).

I'm pretty sure because I tried before, but it didn't work. (And somehow I got the over 4GB file onto an external HDD.
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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #21 on: February 14, 2010, 10:17:49 PM »
I think the limitation on Fat 32 (4GB) is also an OS thing. Since NTFS on Vista can do files over 4GB (32bit) but Win XP pro cannot (32bit).

I'm pretty sure because I tried before, but it didn't work. (And somehow I got the over 4GB file onto an external HDD.

It's a hard limitation of the filesystem and has nothing to do with the OS.  XP pro 32bit can certainly make use of files larger than 4GB - How else would I play PS2 games with 4 to 8GB ISOs?

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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #22 on: February 15, 2010, 12:05:34 AM »
exFAT was put into Vista and 7 only because NTFS rapes the ever living fuck out of Solid State Drives.

If it's not an SSD or flashdrive use NTFS.

One serious reason to buy an SSD would be to install the operating system on it and anything other than NTFS for windows would probably not be meaningful. Are you certain?

Is it something to do with TRIM support?

[edit] now that I think of it, you should not be able to install windows on a non-NTFS volume

[edit]Looked it up, Windows can only be installed to NTFS. It's recommended you turn on write caching and turn off last access.
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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #23 on: February 15, 2010, 12:35:00 AM »
Looked it up, Windows can only be installed to NTFS. It's recommended you turn on write caching and turn off last access.

I'm pretty sure 7 does that by default with SSDs.

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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #24 on: February 15, 2010, 04:40:31 AM »
I think the limitation on Fat 32 (4GB) is also an OS thing. Since NTFS on Vista can do files over 4GB (32bit) but Win XP pro cannot (32bit).

I'm pretty sure because I tried before, but it didn't work. (And somehow I got the over 4GB file onto an external HDD.

It's a hard limitation of the filesystem and has nothing to do with the OS.  XP pro 32bit can certainly make use of files larger than 4GB - How else would I play PS2 games with 4 to 8GB ISOs?

Hmm... that's really weird then. Maybe my file server is just being temperamental?
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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #25 on: February 15, 2010, 07:54:46 AM »
exFAT was put into Vista and 7 only because NTFS rapes the ever living fuck out of Solid State Drives.

If it's not an SSD or flashdrive use NTFS.

One serious reason to buy an SSD would be to install the operating system on it and anything other than NTFS for windows would probably not be meaningful. Are you certain?

Is it something to do with TRIM support?

[edit] now that I think of it, you should not be able to install windows on a non-NTFS volume

[edit]Looked it up, Windows can only be installed to NTFS. It's recommended you turn on write caching and turn off last access.

I see, that explains why it can kill an SSD.

I have had the "last accessed" thing of XP disabled some time ago thru the registry. It has a performance impact on spindle drives as well.

Thanks for the clarification.

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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #26 on: February 15, 2010, 08:00:15 AM »
I think the limitation on Fat 32 (4GB) is also an OS thing. Since NTFS on Vista can do files over 4GB (32bit) but Win XP pro cannot (32bit).

I'm pretty sure because I tried before, but it didn't work. (And somehow I got the over 4GB file onto an external HDD.

It's a hard limitation of the filesystem and has nothing to do with the OS.  XP pro 32bit can certainly make use of files larger than 4GB - How else would I play PS2 games with 4 to 8GB ISOs?

Hmm... that's really weird then. Maybe my file server is just being temperamental?

One or several of your programs has a 4GB limit regardless of the OS or filesystem, because they are using a 32 bit unsigned integer to keep track of the file size limiting them to 4GB.

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Re: NTFS or exFAT?
« Reply #27 on: February 15, 2010, 12:47:33 PM »
exFAT? No... just no.

Remember those days... Still no. NTFS pwns.