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1984 VS Brave New World

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molbjerg:
I mean usually I'm happy when an oldie comes back.....
 ???

AntiPaladin:
I think they're actually at their best when combined. 1984 is based on a much shorter-term plan (pacify the populace and make them dependent on the government) that wasn't as far-reaching. In that world, they tried to control the people's lives, but not their thoughts as much, and certainly not their religion (merely tried to extinguish it) I see BNW as the long-term extension of the same programs - after you pacify the populace and change their views on the role of a government, you change their very belif system to conform to the world you're trying to create.

KoC:

--- Quote from: AntiPaladin on February 19, 2010, 08:09:51 PM ---I think they're actually at their best when combined. 1984 is based on a much shorter-term plan (pacify the populace and make them dependent on the government) that wasn't as far-reaching. In that world, they tried to control the people's lives, but not their thoughts as much, and certainly not their religion (merely tried to extinguish it) I see BNW as the long-term extension of the same programs - after you pacify the populace and change their views on the role of a government, you change their very belif system to conform to the world you're trying to create.

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They created a whole language which lacked whole aspects in order to prevent people from thinking about them, how is that not trying to control their thoughts?!

Xiong Chiamiov:
1984 was boring as hell (so disappointing).  Brave New World was pretty good.  No opinions on whatever you actually asked.

kyoterry:
haha yes, I'm back. KoC you've missed me most of all! ^.^

Why does it only have to be the government that oppresses its people? What about the entertainment industry? They create mindless zombies who only think about
the latest fashion, or newest gadgets. Those that have been socially conditioned to think the way the media wants it.
It's as if they were living in their own perfect reality show, while the rest of the world is clueless to them.

It's scary, knowing many who would prefer to focus on their materialistic possessions than value what some people don't have, civil liberties.

Since we're on the topic of liberties and governments, then let me ask you guys this:

If WW3 were started, a)who would be to blame? b)why? c)where would the warfare start? d) who would win?

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