Battlefield Bad Company 2

[Viseroid]

US release is March 2nd. Anyone have it yet? I gave the PS3 beta a shot and it was pretty fun. Same good old Battlefield format except your buildings aren't invincible. Too bad it is stuck at 32 players, I think its 24 for the consoles. Really would've liked some 32 v 32 action but in Battlefield 2142 it got pretty bogged down anyways.

[wolkec]

i think the action is too fast paced and thus unrealistic.

[Lurch]

i think the action is too fast paced and thus unrealistic.

Strange, I've always found the Battlefield series game-play to be quite a bit slower than the average multiplayer fps (call of duty, UT, counterstrike) Not that I play fps' for their realism value.

I've yet to play the beta, but plan on picking up Bad Company 2 for the PC when it's out. Been eagerly awaiting this release, after boycotting Modern Warfare 2... I've been playing  2142 to get myself back into the Battlefield mindset. I find after playing too much cs:s I completely suck at all the other fps games.

The only thing I worry about is, most Battlefield releases completely suck until they're patched a couple of times. Hopefully this release is smooth.

[wolkec]

i think the action is too fast paced and thus unrealistic.

Strange, I've always found the Battlefield series game-play to be quite a bit slower than the average multiplayer fps (call of duty, UT, counterstrike) Not that I play fps' for their realism value.

I've yet to play the beta, but plan on picking up Bad Company 2 for the PC when it's out. Been eagerly awaiting this release, after boycotting Modern Warfare 2... I've been playing  2142 to get myself back into the Battlefield mindset. I find after playing too much cs:s I completely suck at all the other fps games.

The only thing I worry about is, most Battlefield releases completely suck until they're patched a couple of times. Hopefully this release is smooth.

Well, people arent afraid to get killed in a game >.>
so they shoot like crazy. That makes the game way too unrealistic...

[kardz]

But doesn't the BF series use player tickets? It discourages reckless players into just charging and dying since when a team uses up all their tickets you pretty much can't re-spawn.

[Viseroid]

The game play of Modern Warfare is far more frenetic and ADD than Bad Company 2 could even dream about . The first time I played Modern Warfare I just couldn't figure out why I was doing so poorly. Then I realized that I was doing poorly because I was taking time to think . Once I had played enough and everything had sunk into muscle memory I was getting 20 person kill streaks with a shotgun on 54 player servers without calling in support.

When I played Battlefield 2 and 2142 I found that ambushing people was a much more viable strategy than in most other FPS games. Combat is a lot less personal. In a decent game no single player will stomp the opposing team like they can in Modern Warfare 2. The combat dynamics in Battlefield games are leaps and bounds deeper than they are in Modern Warfare 1/2.

wolkec, what is your definition of realistic? For me it doesn't matter if games are realistic or not, it is about whether the game is fun. Sure the game can be fun because of its realism, that was the big draw for Counterstrike, but it seems like your complaints lies on the player side of things and not gameplay mechanics. If you want a steadier game where morons don't shoot wildly (not that I'd complain, it makes they easier to kill) find yourself a clan and/or league to play in.

[wolkec]

The game play of Modern Warfare is far more frenetic and ADD than Bad Company 2 could even dream about . The first time I played Modern Warfare I just couldn't figure out why I was doing so poorly. Then I realized that I was doing poorly because I was taking time to think . Once I had played enough and everything had sunk into muscle memory I was getting 20 person kill streaks with a shotgun on 54 player servers without calling in support.

When I played Battlefield 2 and 2142 I found that ambushing people was a much more viable strategy than in most other FPS games. Combat is a lot less personal. In a decent game no single player will stomp the opposing team like they can in Modern Warfare 2. The combat dynamics in Battlefield games are leaps and bounds deeper than they are in Modern Warfare 1/2.

wolkec, what is your definition of realistic? For me it doesn't matter if games are realistic or not, it is about whether the game is fun. Sure the game can be fun because of its realism, that was the big draw for Counterstrike, but it seems like your complaints lies on the player side of things and not gameplay mechanics. If you want a steadier game where morons don't shoot wildly (not that I'd complain, it makes they easier to kill) find yourself a clan and/or league to play in.

No, im talking about gameplay mehanics, where it alows people to bunny hop (Jumping around like crazy - most military dudes have packs with 50+kg with them lol), and about respawning. Yes, i liked battlefield 2 a lot, but the new one just sucks.

[Lurch]

Well as I expected... Can't even browse multiplayer servers! Go EA!  Singleplayer looks pretty, and I really like they physics/recoil. It's unfortunate they can't seem to have a decent release.

[Enzedder]

I plan on picking up BFBC2 on PC mainly because whether it be Battlefield or Call of Duty they still have certain tactics behind it (whether it be ambushing or running in guns blazing). As long as I am able to make my friend on the other end scream for my blood after I headshot him I am happy. ^_^

[Sosseres]

Well as I expected... Can't even browse multiplayer servers! Go EA!  Singleplayer looks pretty, and I really like they physics/recoil. It's unfortunate they can't seem to have a decent release.

I can browse multiplayer servers just fine.

[Lurch]

Well as I expected... Can't even browse multiplayer servers! Go EA!  Singleplayer looks pretty, and I really like they physics/recoil. It's unfortunate they can't seem to have a decent release.

I can browse multiplayer servers just fine.

This was last night, have yet to try today. There was a side scroll of text on the main screen saying something to the effect " we are aware of connection issues, and are working on a fix"

I've tried checking around for people with similar issues, but not seeing anything... definitely not a good sign. Hopefully i don't have to open any ports especially for this game.

[AceHigh]

Maps are like 1/3 of BF2 and instead of 64, it is now 32 players, conclusion: piece of shit.

There are still a lot of players on BF2 servers, so I will continue playing there I guess.

[Sosseres]

Maps are like 1/3 of BF2 and instead of 64, it is now 32 players, conclusion: piece of shit.

There are still a lot of players on BF2 servers, so I will continue playing there I guess.

I dislike the lack of prone most of all thus far. I mostly played bf 2142 on no vehicle servers / city maps, so the map size isn't really an issue for me.

[Lurch]

Maps are like 1/3 of BF2 and instead of 64, it is now 32 players, conclusion: piece of shit.

There are still a lot of players on BF2 servers, so I will continue playing there I guess.

I dislike the lack of prone most of all thus far. I mostly played bf 2142 on no vehicle servers / city maps, so the map size isn't really an issue for me.

I'd agree that not having prone seems sort of pointless, however I suppose it encourages a different type of game play. I found in BF2 and 2142 people used to run around like maniacs with sniper rifles and just drop to prone and shoot you from 10 feet away.

Finally able to play multiplayer, after uninstalling/reinstalling.... I'd have to agree the lack of 64 player servers is a pretty big downfall, but it's still better than 18.

[Viseroid]

Maps are like 1/3 of BF2 and instead of 64, it is now 32 players, conclusion: piece of shit.

There are still a lot of players on BF2 servers, so I will continue playing there I guess.

I bought BFBC2 because I had never bought any of the other BF games; I borrowed them after my friends were done playing with them. I also didn't have a good game with vehicle combat in it that was recent (the last one I had was UT 2K4, great game btw ) so I decided to pick it up.
There isn't anything too ground breaking except that buildings break and sniping really long distances take more skill than I'm used to since the bullet drops. That and taking out a fast moving helicopter with a guided missile is a pain.
As for the reduction of the amount of players I would have liked 32v32. However, I find that the action and map size scales very well to 32 people. I remember in 2142 I would spend loads of time just traveling to points. Thank goodness for the squad beacons - -.

[AceHigh]

I'd agree that not having prone seems sort of pointless, however I suppose it encourages a different type of game play. I found in BF2 and 2142 people used to run around like maniacs with sniper rifles and just drop to prone and shoot you from 10 feet away.

Finally able to play multiplayer, after uninstalling/reinstalling.... I'd have to agree the lack of 64 player servers is a pretty big downfall, but it's still better than 18.

Actually running like crazy and dropping down is real life tactic in military as well, not on short distances like you said, but still it's more realistic because soldiers are taought to go to prone in most cases because that is the position from which you handle your weapon the best and because it's harder to hit you. Besides snipers that do that are noobs, that tactic doesn't stand a chance against good players.


Also why do people mention BF 2142? It's a shameful chapter of DICE history that should only be reffered to as "you know what", "that game" "the thing we are not supposed to speak about" 

[Sosseres]

Also why do people mention BF 2142? It's a shameful chapter of DICE history that should only be reffered to as "you know what", "that game" "the thing we are not supposed to speak about" 

Because I liked it? The vehicles were a bit meh, but gibraltar with no vehicles or similar maps were fun.

[kyanwan]

I never went prone anyways.  Who cares.

I picked this up day after release.   I've been WAITING FOREVER for Bad Company on PC.   BF2 - first real damn good modern (eg: not WW2) and "realistic" (as in: real weapons) shooter for the pc - was my favorite shooter ever.  

Other titles - CoD for example ... they're OK but ... I don't know ... it's just something.  

Vehicles - if you complain about vehicles - learn how to kill them.   There's nothing to complain about.  If you need to play on a "no vehicles server" - you don't know how to play.

( Sorry, but it's true.   I hated vehicles at first too ... but every vehicle has a weak spot.   Ever 1/2 shot a tank?   Yeah.   They have weak spots.   Learn em. )

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What I do know so far - is I like this a HELL OF A LOT more than CoD MW2 - which imo - sucks a fat one.   If you want to talk about unrealistic ... man, that game blows chunks.   BC2 bounds better.

Also why do people mention BF 2142? It's a shameful chapter of DICE history that should only be reffered to as "you know what", "that game" "the thing we are not supposed to speak about" 

Because I liked it? The vehicles were a bit meh, but gibraltar with no vehicles or similar maps were fun.

There was something wrong with 2142 - I can't quite put my finger on it.   It may have been a bit too complex.   I liked it - played it a lot - had everything unlocked ... but there was just something about it. 

Vehicles were no prob for me - I'd just blow the shit out of them ... but the game got boring for some reason.   It wasn't like BF2 - where you could just keep on going for a good while - and still love the game. 

[Sosseres]

The biggest problem I have with this game is that it crashes a lot. When it loads a new map it is a coin flip if I lose the connection or not, when I start the server browser it is a coin flip if it will ctd without error, when tabbing it crashes to desktop more often than not.

I did manage to play 3 hours in a row on a server near where I live prior to the game getting cranky again. I don't have the connection problems in any other game I'm playing. :/

[Viseroid]

I've put a lot of hours into this game. What a great game, too bad there are so many problems playing online :-/
I've never played a game where suddenly the server just throws people out of the game and then you have to wait 5 minutes to several hours before the online aspect of the game worked again. Then if you're lucky the next server won't throw you off until you get a few decent rounds in. It has been about a week now since release and these random server hiccups still happen. Really wish they'd fix this stuff soon.
Gameplay-wise this game is fantastic. I love the explosions, the destruction, the vehicles, and the maps. The weapons are numerous and you have lots of them to choose from. Unfortunately, some of the weapons become completely obsolete after you unlock the later ones. The single player so far is pretty "meh". The AI is really finicky and getting them to go where you want them to is like flying a kite in a tornado. However, it is still fun, just not MW2 singleplayer fun. The single player for MW2 was moronic from a political standpoint and really over-the-top; that's probably why it was so awesome . Too bad it was so short. The best all around single player I've had in an FPS was probably Brothers in Arms: Hell's Highway
I guess my verdict is if you don't have a Battlefield game yet or are looking for a good game with vehicle combat you should pick it up. However, you won't find too many differences from the other BF games in terms of multiplayer. Other than that you aren't missing anything revolutionary like Portal.