Need Software for Playing music

[mgz]

Is there a player I can use to replace itunes that both can be used with my ipod and play flac files? Would also like it if it could upload the flack files to my ipod without having to make a separate version. if it maters i run a win 7 64 bit

Throw away your iPod and buy a different media player? Like the Creative Zen X-Fi2 (native .flac support). iPods don't natively play .flac and I haven't heard of any reliable hacks for it to allow it to do so. Though I've personally found it's better to just convert to .mp3/.mp4 anyway, audio files are smaller and the difference from a small media player between .mp3/.mp4 and .flac is fairly negligible.

thats what i do but when your talking about a torrent that has a lot of tracks to it its just a pain in the ass to thing to do.

if thats what you did you wouldnt have an ipod because he started it by saying throw your piece of shit ipod away and get a less retard friendly more capable unit.

[Spanks]

Is there a player I can use to replace itunes that both can be used with my ipod and play flac files? Would also like it if it could upload the flack files to my ipod without having to make a separate version. if it maters i run a win 7 64 bit

Throw away your iPod and buy a different media player? Like the Creative Zen X-Fi2 (native .flac support). iPods don't natively play .flac and I haven't heard of any reliable hacks for it to allow it to do so. Though I've personally found it's better to just convert to .mp3/.mp4 anyway, audio files are smaller and the difference from a small media player between .mp3/.mp4 and .flac is fairly negligible.

thats what i do but when your talking about a torrent that has a lot of tracks to it its just a pain in the ass to thing to do.

if thats what you did you wouldnt have an ipod because he started it by saying throw your piece of shit ipod away and get a less retard friendly more capable unit.

There is nothing wrong with Ipods, if you wanna just play music, it's itunes that gives me the shits. I mite add the only reason I have an ipod is because I won it. As for a replacement for itunes, we have already said what you can use in this thread. I'm no expert but playing flac files on a ipod or almost any portable media player is pointless, isnt it? But sadly converting that many flac files can be annoying, I'm sure there is a way to convert them all with folder structures intact.

[mgz]

Is there a player I can use to replace itunes that both can be used with my ipod and play flac files? Would also like it if it could upload the flack files to my ipod without having to make a separate version. if it maters i run a win 7 64 bit

Throw away your iPod and buy a different media player? Like the Creative Zen X-Fi2 (native .flac support). iPods don't natively play .flac and I haven't heard of any reliable hacks for it to allow it to do so. Though I've personally found it's better to just convert to .mp3/.mp4 anyway, audio files are smaller and the difference from a small media player between .mp3/.mp4 and .flac is fairly negligible.

thats what i do but when your talking about a torrent that has a lot of tracks to it its just a pain in the ass to thing to do.

if thats what you did you wouldnt have an ipod because he started it by saying throw your piece of shit ipod away and get a less retard friendly more capable unit.

There is nothing wrong with Ipods, if you wanna just play music, it's itunes that gives me the shits. I mite add the only reason I have an ipod is because I won it. As for a replacement for itunes, we have already said what you can use in this thread. I'm no expert but playing flac files on a ipod or almost any portable media player is pointless, isnt it? But sadly converting that many flac files can be annoying, I'm sure there is a way to convert them all with folder structures intact.

compared to several other audio players the ipod is still more expensive and inferior both in file support ease of transfering files to and from it, and battery life.

Like i said most of those players are just slightly less retard friendly

[Xtras]

Songbird natively supports FLAC, and there is a plugin which allows it to transcode as well.

[Stsin]

tbh though, if your fine with using on board sound, it's unlikely a change in the software or decoder you use to play files will make a noticeable difference to you

Thanks, what I needed to hear.  The huge majority of users will be using onboard sound, increasing by the minute.  So we should use whatever we feel comfortable with.  The advantages of foobar are dwindling, with many players now being able to play flac with unicode support.

I've been reluctant to swap my Audigy from my old computer, remembering problems with creative drivers and to games using direct sound in the latest OS ...actually better support with onboard now.

So the audigy will stay in my old computer and will die with it

[levictus]

Here is my Audio/Video setup, it works great for me!

I use the CCCP Codec pack to provide codecs for DirectShow based applications. It also helps remove buggy codec packs and installs a whole bunch of goodies like Haali media splitter and Media Player Classic HC.

I set MPC-HC as the default program for running all media related stuff except for some random things like Winamp specific playlist formats. MPC-HC essentially functions as a kind of "Preview" application for all my media files. And it does the job perfectly. It's lightweight without any extra trash like embedded videos of Steve Jobs talking about how cool he is (this can be important if you're having problems running 1080P h264 rips).

For playing music I use Winamp. It's very powerful and has a ton of skins and plug-ins. Back in the late 90s, it was one of the first programs to popularize the notions of custom skins and plugins. It has a really flexible media library that can be setup in anyway you like (for instance, you can have your top 'source' column divided into two different views; a generic artist/album list view and an album cover view). I also really like Winamp's milkdrop visualization plugin, IMO it's the best one out there. Winamp also has a bunch of really cool skins that offer a lot variety and customization, but are still pretty easy to use.



For tag editing and folder structure management, I use a program called Mp3tag. This is a very powerful program with which you construct enormously time saving macros. It's highly flexible and you can do all sorts of things with the tags/filenames. It also has a cool feature to grab metadata from sources like Discogs and Amazon which is really good for getting album covers. It can do a bunch of other stuff with playlists and exporting your music list, but I don't use playlists. It supports all common and uncommon tag formats and audio codecs out there. While Winamp's tag editing capabilities are quite developed compared to mainstream applications like Windows Media Player and iTunes, I like to have both an organized tagging system and a logical folder structure for my music, so I use Mp3tag.

If I need to do any transcoding, I use an application called MediaCoder. Again this is a pretty powerful converter program that is still very intuitive. While most of my transcoding consists of converting FLACs into V0 MP3s, MediaCoder is supposed to be able to do lots of other useful stuff like converting random video files into container/codec combinations that play on a specific PMP (Like the PSP) or consoles like PS3/XBOX360. They even have dedicated versions for the PSP so you don't have to mess with the encoder settings.

Finally, I use a program called MediaInfo to find detailed information about the contents of various containers or audio/video files. I kind of wish this program was integrated into Media Player Classic HC, their 'properties' tab is kind of useless.

Summary of my setup:
Audio/Video Preview: Media Player Class HC (With CCCP codec pack)
Audio Library Playback: Winamp
Audio Tagging/Management: Mp3tag
Audio Transcoding: MediaCoder
Media Info: MediaInfo

So I basically use several tool that are specialized for a particular jobs. 

Foobar2000 is actually developed by a former developer from Nullsoft; the creators of Winamp. While it can do everything that Winamp can do and more (things like transcoding, I also think foobar's tagging and management features at least approach Mp3tag),* it can be a pain to use. It's highly modular and the default setup could lack things one tends to take for granted when thinking about an mp3 player (this might have been resolved in the newer versions). I guess if you want to take the take to get foobar2000 up and running it should probably do everything you'd want it to do.

* can someone enlighten me about this? How does foobar2000 compare to Mp3Tag in the tagging, filename editing (renaming based on metadata and such), folder structure management and metadata retrieval categories?

I would also look into Songbird. It's supposed to be like a more flexible version of iTunes that lacks Apple's totalitarian control policies. Of the the top of my head, I think they have a cool feature where you can add youtube videos into your multimedia library or something like that.

Peace,

Levictus

[mgz]

pretty sure i opened the thread with something along the lines of fuck winamp unstable POS crashes

[Will5757]

i don't' really mind if you don't like it, but seeing as winamp is stable for so many other people, perhaps there's a issue with your computer? or maybe the files that are causing it to crash are broken

[mgz]

i don't' really mind if you don't like it, but seeing as winamp is stable for so many other people, perhaps there's a issue with your computer? or maybe the files that are causing it to crash are broken

nope because another user even posted saying his winamp crashed a bunch too if you didnt use 1 specific skin.
Winamp isnt stable, my computer isnt the issue all parts in my comp are functioning properly and all crashes happened after fresh installs.

And the files all play just fine on foobar and mediamonkey without crashing, and windows media player for that matter but wmp is FUCKING HUGE

[samfisher1]

dude win amp is as stabe as hell XD the only time it crased was when i spammed it just after exiting a game. although it respomded a few min later.


there must be a issue with yuor pc. like it could be a mac  or something

[mgz]

no i dont use a garbage mac, and know for a fact that there is nothing wrong with anything in my computer winamp is simply a buggy piece of shit.

there is a reason you dont see dozens of people slamming my initial post that slammed winamp.