Final Fantasy 13, the day has finally come

[forsaken]

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Final verdict: Bad

I kept hoping it would pick up, but in the end it was just paradigm shift and X-mashing. Not very fun. Also the storyline didn't manage to grip me in the least. Dunno why, but it's the least involving FF I've played so far...

The only reason to play this game is for the eye-candy, other than that it's mostly a fail I'm afraid

[TidusBlade]

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Can't believe I was considering getting a PS3 just for this. I thought the hate would sort of cool down once the actual game comes out but meh, it really did disappoint, could've been worse though, at least the battle system was sort of fun, and I liked the idea behind paradigms and the crystarium system.

Story was really what stopped me from playing, I actually enjoyed it a bit in the first disc and played just to see where they'd take the story but man, it really got boring by the third disc. I think I'm just about to get some freedom finally but I don't feel like playing since I forced myself to play just for the heck of it, wasn't worth the time, I even cancelled all my plans the weekend I got my hands on it =/

I would also complain about how linear it is but that's done to death, I wouldn't have minded a very linear game as long as the story kept me going, like in FFVII, VIII and to some extent XII, I couldn't wait to see what's next in the story so I saved in another slot, one bunch of saves for finishing the story and another was for leveling up, getting hunts, killing the weapons, etc.

Oh well, supposedly they said they're going back to their old formula of freedom + towns + tons of extras for FFXV since XIV is another MMO, might look forward to that if the screenshots look good...

I still have to get around to playing FFIX so at least this doesn't mean I ran out of good RPG's to play

[beezer08]

Done with this game completely now and overall I'd give it like an 8/10.  

Minor spoilers I guess:

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The game's major weakness is the bad pacing.  I didn't really mind the story pacing that much, but I hated how they limited you so much with the battle system.  You can only level this far at this point because we say so....no logical reason whatsoever.  Heck, you're still even limited when you reach the final boss.  Took me about 20 hours just to enjoy playing with the battle system.  

Characters are a mixed bag overall.  All become tolerable at the end, but some are really annoying during the first half of the game.  Most of the story was focused on the main characters' development and thus the villains were extremely weak in this game.  Snow was my favorite character, then Sahz.  Sahz would have probably been my favorite had he not become completely invisible story wise at the end of the game.  Story was OK overall.  Much better than XII at least and it kept my interest the whole time.  

Post game is pretty boring IMO.  The only thing you can really do is marks/hunts and max your characters out.....which is a pain in the ass.  I Spent like 10 hours farming those fucking turtles to get a single trap (with a pitiful 1% drop rate, 5 % with certain equipment) that allows you to upgrade to an ultimate weapon.....and then I needed 5 more. >_>  I could kill them pretty easily later on, but damn they are annoying at first.  Overall I found the post game more frustrating than fun.  

[Jesta23]

Done with this game completely now and overall I'd give it like an 8/10.  

Minor spoilers I guess:

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The game's major weakness is the bad pacing.  I didn't really mind the story pacing that much, but I hated how they limited you so much with the battle system.  You can only level this far at this point because we say so....no logical reason whatsoever.  Heck, you're still even limited when you reach the final boss.  Took me about 20 hours just to enjoy playing with the battle system.  

Characters are a mixed bag overall.  All become tolerable at the end, but some are really annoying during the first half of the game.  Most of the story was focused on the main characters' development and thus the villains were extremely weak in this game.  Snow was my favorite character, then Sahz.  Sahz would have probably been my favorite had he not become completely invisible story wise at the end of the game.  Story was OK overall.  Much better than XII at least and it kept my interest the whole time.  

Post game is pretty boring IMO.  The only thing you can really do is marks/hunts and max your characters out.....which is a pain in the ass.  I Spent like 10 hours farming those fucking turtles to get a single trap (with a pitiful 1% drop rate, 5 % with certain equipment) that allows you to upgrade to an ultimate weapon.....and then I needed 5 more. >_>  I could kill them pretty easily later on, but damn they are annoying at first.  Overall I found the post game more frustrating than fun.  

I agree with most of what you say. I really enjoyed the story however. And I thought Lightning was a really cool character.

As for the traps, you can turn 1 trap into 3, then repeat the process for unlimited traps. But it requires 1.5million Gil to turn 1 into 3.
So its still a lot of work. The only reason I think I maxed everything out was because I was writing a guide on it, so that kept me interested.

[beezer08]

Done with this game completely now and overall I'd give it like an 8/10. 

Minor spoilers I guess:

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The game's major weakness is the bad pacing.  I didn't really mind the story pacing that much, but I hated how they limited you so much with the battle system.  You can only level this far at this point because we say so....no logical reason whatsoever.  Heck, you're still even limited when you reach the final boss.  Took me about 20 hours just to enjoy playing with the battle system. 

Characters are a mixed bag overall.  All become tolerable at the end, but some are really annoying during the first half of the game.  Most of the story was focused on the main characters' development and thus the villains were extremely weak in this game.  Snow was my favorite character, then Sahz.  Sahz would have probably been my favorite had he not become completely invisible story wise at the end of the game.  Story was OK overall.  Much better than XII at least and it kept my interest the whole time. 

Post game is pretty boring IMO.  The only thing you can really do is marks/hunts and max your characters out.....which is a pain in the ass.  I Spent like 10 hours farming those fucking turtles to get a single trap (with a pitiful 1% drop rate, 5 % with certain equipment) that allows you to upgrade to an ultimate weapon.....and then I needed 5 more. >_>  I could kill them pretty easily later on, but damn they are annoying at first.  Overall I found the post game more frustrating than fun. 

I agree with most of what you say. I really enjoyed the story however. And I thought Lightning was a really cool character.

As for the traps, you can turn 1 trap into 3, then repeat the process for unlimited traps. But it requires 1.5million Gil to turn 1 into 3.
So its still a lot of work. The only reason I think I maxed everything out was because I was writing a guide on it, so that kept me interested.

Yeah I knew about that.  Still takes forever to do.  Even with that method, you still need 2 traps(the first and one more) to drop if you want to be efficient.  Took me like 15 boring ass hours to do that, very frustrating. 

[Jesta23]

Took me like 15 boring ass hours to do that, very frustrating. 

with out the catalogs bonus, you have a 5% chance to get one. Meaning 1 in 20 kills, you should after getting the first one be able to kill one every 5-6mins. Meaning 1 trap every 2 hours or so. Of course lady luck can be a bitch.

[beezer08]

Took me like 15 boring ass hours to do that, very frustrating. 

with out the catalogs bonus, you have a 5% chance to get one. Meaning 1 in 20 kills, you should after getting the first one be able to kill one every 5-6mins. Meaning 1 trap every 2 hours or so. Of course lady luck can be a bitch.

It's 1% without the catalog and 5% with it when you 5 star the battle.  I could kill one every 3-4 minutes at first and later on it took about 2 or so.  I still killed over 70 of those damn things b4 I got my first one.  Thankfully, the Ingots are 33% with the catalogs....which is less tedious but still very time consuming since it takes a lot of gil to max the weapon.....and you have to do it more than once, unless you're very lucky. 

[Jesta23]

5% with out a catalog, then * 1.5 more with it, im to lazy to do the math.

[beezer08]

5% with out a catalog, then * 1.5 more with it, im to lazy to do the math.

You are thinking of Long Guis.  Adamantoises and Adamantortoises only have a 1% drop rate for traps without the catalogs.  Long Guis on the other hand have a 5% drop rate, but are a lot harder to kill.  

See here if you don't believe me: http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Adamantoise_%28Final_Fantasy_XIII%29

[killazys]

Done with this game completely now and overall I'd give it like an 8/10. 

Minor spoilers I guess:

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The game's major weakness is the bad pacing.  I didn't really mind the story pacing that much, but I hated how they limited you so much with the battle system.  You can only level this far at this point because we say so....no logical reason whatsoever.  Heck, you're still even limited when you reach the final boss.  Took me about 20 hours just to enjoy playing with the battle system. 

Characters are a mixed bag overall.  All become tolerable at the end, but some are really annoying during the first half of the game.  Most of the story was focused on the main characters' development and thus the villains were extremely weak in this game.  Snow was my favorite character, then Sahz.  Sahz would have probably been my favorite had he not become completely invisible story wise at the end of the game.  Story was OK overall.  Much better than XII at least and it kept my interest the whole time. 

Post game is pretty boring IMO.  The only thing you can really do is marks/hunts and max your characters out.....which is a pain in the ass.  I Spent like 10 hours farming those fucking turtles to get a single trap (with a pitiful 1% drop rate, 5 % with certain equipment) that allows you to upgrade to an ultimate weapon.....and then I needed 5 more. >_>  I could kill them pretty easily later on, but damn they are annoying at first.  Overall I found the post game more frustrating than fun. 

This guy is so right. That's exactly how I felt... When the weird really slow at first and then too fast at the end story finished, the post-game was really boring. Game was beautiful though, and I liked the character development quite a bit. Contrast this to me playing FFXII, which was basically picking up the controller for twenty minutes and then never touching the game again. What a disappointment :'(

Overall, I'd say 8.5/10. It's the beautiful graphics that give it a nice boost^^

[mgz]

IMO too many guy characters with girl names, seriously who the fuck has guy characters named snow and hope WTF

[Nikran]

Hope = "Im a faggot!"
Snow = "I chat tons of shit"

Lighting and Fang have much better personalities =P

[killazys]

Hope = "Im a faggot!"
Snow = "I chat tons of shit"

Lighting and Fang have much better personalities =P

Vanille = "sex noise machine"
but she is so the best character

[Proin Drakenzol]

Hope = "Im a faggot!"
Snow = "I chat tons of shit"

Lighting and Fang have much better personalities =P

Vanille = "sex noise machine"
but she is so the best character

Not gonna lie, I love listening to Vanille.

[killazys]

Hope = "Im a faggot!"
Snow = "I chat tons of shit"

Lighting and Fang have much better personalities =P

Vanille = "sex noise machine"
but she is so the best character

Not gonna lie, I love listening to Vanille.

*BROFiST*
Finally. Everyone on 4chan hates vanille :'(

[Spanks]

Hope = "Im a faggot!"
Snow = "I chat tons of shit"

Lighting and Fang have much better personalities =P

Vanille = "sex noise machine"
but she is so the best character

Not gonna lie, I love listening to Vanille.

*BROFiST*
Finally. Everyone on 4chan hates vanille :'(

Why does everyone hates Vanille, she isn't that bad. Compared to to some anime characters she isn't that annoying. They must just be cut because she isn't as hot as Rikku.

[killazys]

Hope = "Im a faggot!"
Snow = "I chat tons of shit"

Lighting and Fang have much better personalities =P

Vanille = "sex noise machine"
but she is so the best character

Not gonna lie, I love listening to Vanille.

*BROFiST*
Finally. Everyone on 4chan hates vanille :'(

Why does everyone hates Vanille, she isn't that bad. Compared to to some anime characters she isn't that annoying. They must just be cut because she isn't as hot as Rikku.

Yeah, she isn't. She's pretty good for

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sacrificing herself at the end

too!
Never played X... Bought international and it won't work w/my american PS2 --"

[nstgc]

How can you hate the cutest lesbian sex mechine in all of Final Fantasy?!

Saz is my favorite, but she cums close.

[flyawave]

Lightning punches Snow WAY too often
+1 for Vanille love

[Nikran]

Lightning punches Snow WAY too often

Punishment for chatting so much crap.

Snow: Hey everyone! Look im a HERO! a H E R O!!!!
Lighting: STFU!!! *Epic punch*