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Cowboy Bebop
agbaba:
--- Quote from: Micharus on March 11, 2010, 09:34:35 PM ---I see that there a couple of Cowboy Bebop movies, are they actually worth watching or are they just a re-hash of the series?
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correct me if i'm wrong, but there's just the one movie right?
Scudworth:
one movie and one copped up piece of crap that was the ending until they did it right, and is now counted as it's own entity.
sungman:
Bah, personally I was disappointed by the music of the series....the title was pretty misleading.
PithyGriff:
I think it's difficult to talk about Cowboy Bebop. Easy to say something good, exact and precarious otherwise. Because you'd better have your shit in order if you're gonna criticize.
Common criticism:
Weak story line
Too self-loving ("The work which will become a new genre itself.")
In the first, they're missing the point. The second is grasping at shadows.
It's undeniable that Cowboy Bebop is one of the greatest works of anime. Nearly every aspect is seamless. Cliche free, plot hole free, budget-cut-animation free. (No harem, gratuitous fan service, gratuitous moe, whiny male lead, unbearably irrational characters, cheap or overwrought plot devices.)
The universe isn't so foreign, neither are the character types. But there's nothing quite like it, and certainly nothing similar that stands up to the shear force of quality, diversity, originality. In that sense, it's pretty damn sui generis.
So most talk falls in the white noise range: Like? Y/N. Because of gushing pukes like myself, enough people have taken to disliking Cowboy Bebop on obstinance rather than merit. Not that Cowboy Bebop is impregnable, but try to come up with a different anime (fuck, a different anything) that does it better. Cowboy Bebop isn't something you can dismiss with a finger wag, eye roll, upturned nose. By all means, it's not chiseled in the universe to like the anime, but an offhand comment isn't nearly enough. Fiction this great earns an exit fee.
Micharus:
--- Quote from: PithyGriff on March 13, 2010, 08:35:54 AM ---I think it's difficult to talk about Cowboy Bebop. Easy to say something good, exact and precarious otherwise. Because you'd better have your shit in order if you're gonna criticize.
Common criticism:
Weak story line
Too self-loving ("The work which will become a new genre itself.")
In the first, they're missing the point. The second is grasping at shadows.
It's undeniable that Cowboy Bebop is one of the greatest works of anime. Nearly every aspect is seamless. Cliche free, plot hole free, budget-cut-animation free. (No harem, gratuitous fan service, gratuitous moe, whiny male lead, unbearably irrational characters, cheap or overwrought plot devices.)
The universe isn't so foreign, neither are the character types. But there's nothing quite like it, and certainly nothing similar that stands up to the shear force of quality, diversity, originality. In that sense, it's pretty damn sui generis.
So most talk falls in the white noise range: Like? Y/N. Because of gushing pukes like myself, enough people have taken to disliking Cowboy Bebop on obstinance rather than merit. Not that Cowboy Bebop is impregnable, but try to come up with a different anime (fuck, a different anything) that does it better. Cowboy Bebop isn't something you can dismiss with a finger wag, eye roll, upturned nose. By all means, it's not chiseled in the universe to like the anime, but an offhand comment isn't nearly enough. Fiction this great earns an exit fee.
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I understand what you are saying.
The only other anime series that come near it are "Black Lagoon" and "Samurai Champloo", that is of the ones I can think of right now.
Of course, compared to probably quite a few other members of BakaBT, I haven't really watched a lot of anime, but I have tried to watch as many of the, shall we call them 'benchmark', anime as I can.
I'm still looking for the "LIST" of anime that are considered to be the shining pinnacle of their various genre's, but I reckon I've watched a few that have fallen into that category.
*note this post may change, I've just realised that I need to spend some time making a proper response to the previous post.
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