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FFVII PS3 Remake - Yay or Nay?
PithyGriff:
If a remake existed, I'd want to play it. I think FF7 was excellent, but I also think it's overhyped and overloved, and for all the wrong reasons. The majority of people who rave about FF7 were in elementary school to early high school when the game was released and it was their first experience with a game that actually took the storyline seriously. And significantly, FF7 was by far the most beautiful game to date. In this way, FF7 was really a genius project because there was some kickass writing and it reached a previously unthinkable amount of people.
I think it's because of FF7 that more people don't like 8 and 10 more. There's just no way to live up to those expectations. And I admire the effort in 8, which clearly wasn't trying to live up to that standard, but instead tried to be a respectable entity unto itself. What bugs me about a lot of Final Fantasy 'fans' is that many of them exclusively like 7, and only really played successive titles out of a desire for more 7. (Personally I couldn't get into the 9 universe, nothing about it struck a chord with me. I thought 12 was poor as well, just endless amounts of nothing to do. Though the Bosch storyline was compelling; it's unfortunate the original writer on that project jumped ship.)
There's also the logistics of remaking FF7. It's terribly unlikely. Most of the rumors were fueled by an E3 demo of a redone opening sequence to 7. That demo was only meant to spark interest in Advent Children, Crisis Core, and Dirge of Cerberus. (I'm also throwing my vote for Advent Children. Kicked ass.)
Quote from the Wikipedia entry:
February 2010, Kitase stated that creating a Final Fantasy VII for the PlayStation 3 in order to give it a similar quality to the one from Final Fantasy XIII "would take as much as three or four times longer than the three and a half years it has taken to put this Final Fantasy together! So it's looking pretty unrealistic to happen!" Additionally, Kitase commented that making games with the same style of Final Fantasy VII for the PlayStation 3 is very difficult as it would take the staff too much time to make the graphics; due to this, Final Fantasy XIII is "more linear" than previous titles. In a March 2010 interview, however, Final Fantasy XIII director Motomu Toriyama stated, "If we had the manpower and the time to work on a project, if we were to remake Final Fantasy VII with the quality of Final Fantasy XIII it would become a tremendous project. If we can get the number of people we need by all means that would be the one I would really want to remake."
--- Quote from: Lucerin Red on March 22, 2010, 03:03:26 PM ---Nay, I want FFVI, thank you. Kefka > Sephiroth any day of the week.
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Fuck. Yes.
The FFVI story and characters still clean house any day of the week. That game deserves a real remake.
Tatsujin:
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--- Quote from: Tatsujin on March 22, 2010, 02:14:08 PM ---They'll remake it eventually. FFVII's 20 year completion ends in 2017 so they've got 7 years to bring it to us. I hope they focus on the PS3's version first before the 360's.
In the meantime, I want Versus XIII...
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I doubt it'll hit the 360, since Sony has to have some rights to it....or they'll use their brain (for once) and make sure it stays exclusive. I honestly would rather them focus on making new games instead of remaking old ones and since their dev times are getting longer (their last 2 FF games have taken a very long time to release), so I do not want them working on a remake.
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+1, they'll probably need 2 DL Blu-ray discs and so ... well, ... yea. It'll kill the purpose to bring it to the 360 by then. And please add the Japanese voices ..
I'd want the remake, badly. I just want to play it in HD, more content, graphics, gameplay..
I really like the Materia system. I think it is by far the "best" FF system they've developed to-date. I do think it's lacking alot of materia effects, or special effects and more magic and what not. The Break Limit is also great. I liked it a lot more than the other crap they did in other FF games. We're talking about FFVII, not Crisis Core's Materia System..
forsaken:
--- Quote from: DaggerLite on March 22, 2010, 02:25:29 PM ---I wonder, have you played Crisis Core and Dirge of Cerberus? Or did you just watch Advent Children?
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Yes I played both. CC was great, especially in combination with the anime clip about Zack/Cloud. DoC was a nice try, I did enjoy it somewhat - making a shooter from an FF was definitely an interesting attempt. I've seen better action-rpgs though. But there was more than the film and those two games during the VII rehash.
@PithyGriff: I've hyped VII because it's the first RPG I really got into during my youth and there's just so many great nostalgic memories of the joy I got from playing it previously.
As for VIII - I got into because I was kinda moody when I played it (fitting with Squall's emo-style ^^;) and I could get into IX aswell because I enjoyed the whole pirate thing and because it was more like VII than VIII. X I spent lotsa time on and it truly was a great game imo. XII had some good and some bad, same with XIII. I personally could never get into anything pre-VII. I tried I and VI and although it's shallow I couldn't truly enjoy it because of the shitty 2D. It's like watching a HD movie and then watching it's 60's black-and-white SD predecessor without the sound...
I think it's all down to Nostalgia aswell. Those people who played I-VI when they originally came out are gonna have fonder memories of it than the younger generation (of which I consider myself a part)...
And the Logistics of making the game would indeed be tremendously complex. The reason XIII is so "small" and linear is, as the developers stated, because it's all in HD. But meh, we can dream... ;)
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on March 22, 2010, 04:23:09 PM ---I really like the Materia system. I think it is by far the "best" FF system they've developed to-date. I do think it's lacking alot of materia effects, or special effects and more magic and what not. The Break Limit is also great. I liked it a lot more than the other crap they did in other FF games. We're talking about FFVII, not Crisis Core's Materia System..
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I liked the Materia system back then and it most certainly beat FFVIII's draw system which was the stupidest thing ever (though linking the skills/spells to stats was a great idea). The fact that you could combine materia in the linked slots was very cool.
My favourite system is X's though. The grid was fcking excellent, XII's was retarded again and XIII's is a crap version of X's grid.
As for Limit Breaks, the fact that your character couldn't attack normally if the limit break was available was the first stupid thing. They fixed that in VIII though. Also, I enjoyed having to do something for each Limit break, like in X where you had to do Auron's combos or press X at a specific time (can't remember which character that was). The origin of this was Tifa's spinning wheels for her hand-to-hand combos.
I really enjoyed XII's Gambit System, though that wouldn't fit into a VII remake. However X's swapping characters in-fight, aswell as X's seeing the next ten moves (turn-based) are both excellent features that built on and improved the original battle-system.
On another topic, what about minigamez? How cool would the motorcycle game be in HD? Or snowboarding? Chocobo races could do with an upgrade. VIII's & IX's card systems where both very fun aswell, wouldn't mind seeing something of that sort integrated...
And some x-rated content would be nice too and I'm not talking about Chocobo-breeding ;)
The perfect game... :>
nstgc:
Nay
First, if they were definitely going to make a remake, I could choose which one, and I didn't have to play it, it would be whatever the oldest one is (either I or III) simply because they are so old. Find the one that is mostly likely to seem new.
If they were definitely going to make a remake, if I was required to play it, and I could choose, I would want V to be remade. I think the whole world destruction thing would greatly benefit from new graphics and cinematic-like story telling.
In any case, I'm not sure if I want any remakes or not, but I do know, I don't want VII to be remade. I wasn't exactly thrilled with it. It wasn't the worst, but it definitely isn't something I ever want to play again. I would like to see them bring back the Matria system though. I think something like that would have been better than the current weapon upgrade system seen in XIII.
beezer08:
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on March 22, 2010, 04:23:09 PM ---
--- Quote from: beezer08 on March 22, 2010, 02:42:20 PM ---
--- Quote from: Tatsujin on March 22, 2010, 02:14:08 PM ---They'll remake it eventually. FFVII's 20 year completion ends in 2017 so they've got 7 years to bring it to us. I hope they focus on the PS3's version first before the 360's.
In the meantime, I want Versus XIII...
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I doubt it'll hit the 360, since Sony has to have some rights to it....or they'll use their brain (for once) and make sure it stays exclusive. I honestly would rather them focus on making new games instead of remaking old ones and since their dev times are getting longer (their last 2 FF games have taken a very long time to release), so I do not want them working on a remake.
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+1, they'll probably need 2 DL Blu-ray discs and so ... well, ... yea. It'll kill the purpose to bring it to the 360 by then. And please add the Japanese voices ..
I'd want the remake, badly. I just want to play it in HD, more content, graphics, gameplay..
I really like the Materia system. I think it is by far the "best" FF system they've developed to-date. I do think it's lacking alot of materia effects, or special effects and more magic and what not. The Break Limit is also great. I liked it a lot more than the other crap they did in other FF games. We're talking about FFVII, not Crisis Core's Materia System..
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Wasn't the biggest fan of the materia system, since it made characters themselves feel cheap because you could put any attack/magic on anyone. The only thing that was different was the limit breaks. At least in FFX (not the Int version) the characters started down a pre-defined path that made each one unique and it actually took a lot more work to give them whatever move you wanted. Moving materia around between characters was also a pain in the ass IMO. To top it all off, FFVII's battle system is the easiest to exploit due to the materia system being so broken. Get certain enemy skills on the enemy skill materia such as big guard or trine (both can be gotten fairly early), and you'd have to be an idiot to lose to any storyline boss.
Edit: I meant Beta instead of Trine. Both are easy to obtain, but Beta can be gotten within the first 10 hours easily.
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