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Miscellaneous HD problems
« on: March 23, 2010, 11:20:00 PM »
Like, "Error: Data Error (Cyclic Redundancy Check)" or "Error: Invalid download state, try resuming"?

I'm not sure if they're caused by the torrent themselves or by something on my end.

I only got the CRC error once, but after looking up what it means, it kinda makes me paranoid since it could mean I have bad sectors on my HDD or something... Then again, it could also just mean I restarted while the torrent was downloading. I haven't seen it again, so should I worry about it?

Also, the 2nd error ("Error: Invalid download state, try resuming") is occurring on these torrents:
http://bakabt.me/127971-hand-maid-may-01-11-a4e.html
http://bakabt.me/143142-myself-yourself-b-g-m-3-3-w-h264-dvd.html
http://bakabt.me/149246-this-ugly-yet-beautiful-world-kono-minikuku-mo-utsukushii-sekai-exiled-destiny.html

I only have one other one that has some sort've weird thing... But it just has a red up arrow and says it's seeding, but there's nobody connected [0(1) seeds, 0(0) peers]. I tried looking, but I can't seem to find the version that I have on BBT... I'm guessing that it got removed or replaced? It's [Ayano-BakaWolf] Rosario + Vampire [DVD] and it's 3.45 GB. The closest one I found (with the same naming scheme) was a 2 GB one still up, but the one I downloaded had a bunch of creditless openings along with it and that one doesn't and it's a lot smaller. So, I'm guessing whatever one I downloaded was replaced?

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2010, 11:28:33 PM »
Yes, evidently it was replaced by this a little while ago.

Seeding it you should've gotten a notification about it, I (usually) do. But it seems there's bugs present when a swap occurs resulting in some people not getting it.

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #2 on: March 24, 2010, 12:26:40 AM »
Tiffanys, perhaps try a hard drive surface scan, or chkdsk.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #3 on: March 24, 2010, 04:49:50 AM »
What namaiki suggested, restart do a chkdsk, re-check torrent and they should work

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2010, 10:12:24 PM »
For the sake of information...
"Data Error (Cyclic Redundancy Check)"
This means a file failed the torrent hash check, indicating the file is corrupted. Usually you can resume these and redownload the bad piece after the check is complete.

"Invalid download state, try resuming"
This can indicate two things;
1. One (or more) of the files in the torrent has been moved, renamed, modified, etc. This usually happens with seeding torrents. In the first two cases, a good client will allow you to "find" the missing file. As long as it hasn't been modified, you will probably be able to resume without re-checking. If it was modified, you're pretty much SOL- you'll have to redownload it.
2. Your computer crashed/power went out while a file was active. This only happens when downloading. Since the file was being written to when the client unexpectedly quit, the data won't match up with the client log, since the log is not written until a chunk is completed. It's like if someone went to a construction site and finished building a wall overnight- when the bricklayer comes back, he'll be confused and want to check everything to make sure it's okay.

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I only got the CRC error once, but after looking up what it means, it kinda makes me paranoid since it could mean I have bad sectors on my HDD or something... Then again, it could also just mean I restarted while the torrent was downloading. I haven't seen it again, so should I worry about it?
Unless it starts happening a lot, it's not something to worry much about.

I only have one other one that has some sort've weird thing... But it just has a red up arrow and says it's seeding, but there's nobody connected [0(1) seeds, 0(0) peers].
That means the tracker is down/unable to connect. (It sounds like you're using uTorrent?) If you go to the tracker tab, it'll have a status message. If it says 'offline/timed out', then the server is probably down for maintenance. If it says 'not registered with this tracker', then the torrent has been swapped or removed. You should get a PM in those cases.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2010, 10:30:34 PM »
Another file came up with CRC, and after checking the files that had errors, all of them stopped before finished checking and got a CRC error.

Is this bad? x.x

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #6 on: March 25, 2010, 12:15:24 AM »
This sounds very bad. Is your hard drive making any clicking noises?

I would back up any important files until you figure out why you're getting so many CRC errors. Check a few other files (maybe some older files to rule out corrupted recent downloads) and see what happens.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #7 on: March 25, 2010, 06:50:22 PM »
Another file came up with CRC, and after checking the files that had errors, all of them stopped before finished checking and got a CRC error.

Is this bad? x.x
I've had that happen once too. I rebooted my computer and ran checkdisk and defrag. It might help, but this is definitely a red flag that you should be keeping an eye on your filesystem now. Back up any important stuff ASAP! If this behavior keeps up, you should start looking into getting a replacement drive before anything else goes south.

You might also want to check your Anti-virus just in case.

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #8 on: March 26, 2010, 12:08:03 AM »
Don't defrag. If the drive is going to fail, or the file system is corrupted, you will make it worse.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #9 on: March 26, 2010, 12:50:20 AM »
Well, I'm paranoid... I don't take risks.  :P I've already purchased another TB HDD today and I'm about to clone my C drive to it (which is unfortunately the one affected). Once that's done, I'll send it in for an RMA.

Edit: HDD is cloned, torrents all successfully checked and redownloaded the parts that were lost in bad sectors of my other HDD. I don't see what I lost to bad sectors, but it seems there were somewhere in the ballpark of 40-60 GB worth of bad sectors, after seeing the resulting size. Seems like I still have everything important though, so that's good. I'll be doing an RMA now and it looks like I'm going to have an extra TB of space once this is all over.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #10 on: March 27, 2010, 02:35:55 AM »
Good to hear you saved everything important. That's what counts.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #11 on: April 03, 2010, 05:57:32 PM »
it seems there were somewhere in the ballpark of 40-60 GB worth of bad sectors
Holy cow! What brand of drive is this?!

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #12 on: April 03, 2010, 09:07:51 PM »
it seems there were somewhere in the ballpark of 40-60 GB worth of bad sectors
Holy cow! What brand of drive is this?!

Western Digital, it's a 1TB Caviar Black WD1001FALS. I think it may have been more of an upwards of 80 GB too.

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #13 on: April 06, 2010, 05:55:35 AM »
Well, I'm paranoid... I don't take risks.  :P I've already purchased another TB HDD today and I'm about to clone my C drive to it (which is unfortunately the one affected). Once that's done, I'll send it in for an RMA.
You're not nearly paranoid enough if you waited for issues to appear to introduce redundancy of your data.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #14 on: April 06, 2010, 03:33:27 PM »
Well, I'm paranoid... I don't take risks.  :P I've already purchased another TB HDD today and I'm about to clone my C drive to it (which is unfortunately the one affected). Once that's done, I'll send it in for an RMA.
You're not nearly paranoid enough if you waited for issues to appear to introduce redundancy of your data.

Oh, that's not true at all... I already had the most important things backed up on another hdd and dvd's as well. It just wasn't current, so it would've been a real hassle to get back the stuff I consider non-important (like a bunch of anime I've downloaded and could easily redownload, but it'd pretty much murder my ratio) and the few things I hadn't backed up yet that are important.

It's a lot easier to just clone the hdd. Setting up the OS and all the settings and programs and crap is a real pain.

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #15 on: April 06, 2010, 08:07:15 PM »
Well, I'm paranoid... I don't take risks.  :P I've already purchased another TB HDD today and I'm about to clone my C drive to it (which is unfortunately the one affected). Once that's done, I'll send it in for an RMA.
You're not nearly paranoid enough if you waited for issues to appear to introduce redundancy of your data.

Oh, that's not true at all... I already had the most important things backed up on another hdd and dvd's as well. It just wasn't current, so it would've been a real hassle to get back the stuff I consider non-important (like a bunch of anime I've downloaded and could easily redownload, but it'd pretty much murder my ratio) and the few things I hadn't backed up yet that are important.
Exactly.  I'm expecting anyone who professes to being paranoid about data to be running at least RAID 6 with hourly rsyncs to another device, and nightly offsite backups.

But I digress.
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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #16 on: April 10, 2010, 07:47:00 AM »
Exactly.  I'm expecting anyone who professes to being paranoid about data to be running at least RAID 6 with hourly rsyncs to another device, and nightly offsite backups.

But I digress.

Or maybe RAID 61 (16?). On SSDs. Plus all that other good stuff.

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #17 on: April 10, 2010, 07:48:44 AM »
I'm not.... that paranoid. xD

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #18 on: April 10, 2010, 08:03:27 AM »
Actually I had this error a few days ago with my uTorrent. It was for a pictures torrent however it seems to have corrected itself so I don't know. My HDDs have been playing up and slowing down recently. Luckily I created a fresh back up of all my data a week ago so I should be fine if anything too big happens.

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Re: Should we report torrent errors?
« Reply #19 on: April 10, 2010, 10:26:30 AM »
This somehow feels to have become a technology thread... no?