Revolutionizing the way fansubs are distributed?

[Takeshi]

I've had this idea for a few years. It has a similar concept to podcasts, and how PFCorner is able to grab torrents here on BBT without being there physically.

I'm not familiar with which approach you need to use to be able to use such a system, but hear me out at least.

Let's use the term "channel".

Each fansub group, provided they're interested in such a system, would then have a channel where they would make fansubs available. These channels would communicate with your torrent client and make it aware when a new episode of a series you're following is available. Through your client you'd be able to set it to get everything [Eclipse] releases in the category FMA2, and perhaps set it to patches if such are released. The plugin could be configured to seeding it to 1:2 or 1:10 if it's something most people wouldn't download. The later is already implemented though. But it is an important factor because who wants to get home and see what it has uploaded 90GB of the latest episode of something? Most ISP wouldn't be happy about 90GB being uploaded in one day.

Wouldn't it be splendid if your torrent client had gotten the latest 6 episodes of Durarara from [gg], Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood from [Eclipse] or Inuyasha from [Taka] after a long vacation where you haven't been around to downloading it manually, and to add to that, have seeded them like you configured it to? Most people from BakaBT keep their computer running, but the plugin could be configured to start the computer, keep it running for 1-4 hours so it has time to get whatever's available, and then automatically shut down again? The latter might be harder to implement.

This system would be incredibly suitable for busy people who don't have time for more than watching the actual episode.

I'm really just throwing this out there for some discussion.

Could it be possible that we'd see such a system in the future? Would it be technically possible? What would it require? Would you be willing to use it as a fansubber?

I don't know if this has been discussed before ~ bah, if so...

~Feel free to move it to tech if it is better suited there~

[Essedus]

You can program a computer to shut down...but not to turn back on. I've never heard of that. Also, is downloading your own torrents so hard as to warrant such extra trouble? Come one now, it take 20 seconds to do a search on T_T or BakaBT. If you can't spare 5 minutes per day to download those torrents, you really should consider better time management.

[SeventyX7]

Yeah actually visiting the sites and downloading the torrents takes a few minutes tops.  I wouldn't bother with this plugin, it just isn't necessary.

[TidusBlade]

+1 to getting the stuff yourself but can't you already do this with a little work?

You could probably use something like FlexGet or rssdler. Say a fansub group created an RSS feed of direct links for all their releases. Configure the program a bit, and they keep checking that feed for anything new, grabbing the .torrent and saving it in a directory, where your torrent client keeps scanning for anything new, and loads it in. After that it seeds it to a certain ratio and stops seeding. I know rTorrent and kTorrent do that, and I'm guessing so can uTorrent and Azureus, all you need is an option/plugin to scan a directory for torrent files.

If they have a normal RSS feed with no links to any files, then it should be simple to configure it a little more to extract the url. Almost the same thing if they have no feed, just deal with the html files. FlexGet makes this really easy, it can extract URL's from a page automatically then it's just a matter of regex to get what you want.

I dunno but it sounds more or less what you're talking about in your post Takeshi, unless you're suggesting that all fansub groups should take part xD In that case, imo it's probably too much to make it that global; if you want the convenience of automatic everything, then just do the extra work, the tools are there

[kureshii]

Takeshi, all you mentioned is already possible At the very least, all you need is

a) For the fansub tracker site to have a torrent RSS feed (example from Nyaatorrent's search-feed).
b) Scheduling software, which I believe Windows already has its own version of. It's easy enough to create a schedule for it to switch on for 4 hours every night and then go into standby again, just before you leave for vacation. I use it to switch on my laptop at night to do its own backups.

uTorrent's RSS downloader as well as its load-from-folder feature already provide for lots of automation opportunity. These 2 features are available in many other torrent clients as well, so all it takes is to try it out yourself or google it up.

Not that making everything automated is really such a good idea anyway; there simply isn't enough standardisation in the fansub community to create a really reliable fully automated system (I don't think we really need it anyway). For instance, Eclipse doesn't have a torrent feed, so you'll have to rely on a web service like Page2RSS to monitor their releases (I use it on their XDCC page). I prefer to use as few tools as possible in setting up automation so I avoid using it, but sometimes you just don't have much of a choice.

I don't download so much that I need a fully automated system to manage my downloading. Most of my downloading is via XDCC anyway, so I just have a few RSS feeds for releases I'm watching, then search for newly released stuff on #news, paste the command in irssi (running on my NAS which I'm ssh'd into). When I get home I'll have new episodes waiting in my unwatched folder.

[Havoc10K]

Takeshi, all you mentioned is already possible At the very least, all you need is

a) For the fansub tracker site to have a torrent RSS feed (example from Nyaatorrent's search-feed).
b) Scheduling software, which I believe Windows already has its own version of. It's easy enough to create a schedule for it to switch on for 4 hours every night and then go into standby again, just before you leave for vacation. I use it to switch on my laptop at night to do its own backups.

uTorrent's RSS downloader as well as its load-from-folder feature already provide for lots of automation opportunity. These 2 features are available in many other torrent clients as well, so all it takes is to try it out yourself or google it up.

Not that making everything automated is really such a good idea anyway; there simply isn't enough standardisation in the fansub community to create a really reliable fully automated system (I don't think we really need it anyway). For instance, Eclipse doesn't have a torrent feed, so you'll have to rely on a web service like Page2RSS to monitor their releases (I use it on their XDCC page). I prefer to use as few tools as possible in setting up automation so I avoid using it, but sometimes you just don't have much of a choice.

I don't really download so much that I need a fully automated system. Most of my downloading is via XDCC anyway, so I just have a few RSS feeds for releases I'm watching, then search for newly released stuff on #news, paste the command in irssi (running on my NAS which I'm ssh'd into). When I get home I'll have new episodes waiting in my unwatched folder.

and it's quite useful if the tracker actually uses the damn RSS tool, it would be great, but if youre following a speciffic show, from a speciffic group, like eclipse (easiest to follow) just go to main site, every day and you see news. aint really hard, the idea is already implemented, just no tevery group bothers with an RSS feed tool, and l understand why, they need to focus on their main course of work, not the stuff that isn't necessary.

[kureshii]

just no tevery group bothers with an RSS feed tool, and l understand why, they need to focus on their main course of work, not the stuff that isn't necessary.

Eh, implementing RSS isn't as hard as you make it out to be. If a fansub group can take the time to set up their own tracker, they can set up RSS on it too, which takes next to no effort in comparison.

Any group that really wants to "focus on their main course of work" can just set up a page on Scarywater or edwardk, and have the hassle of tracker management and RSS implementation taken off their hands. Many groups either do this or release directly to Nyaa, so getting automation set up for them is really easy.

Anyway, that's digressing; the point is that for release pages with an RSS feed, getting automation set up is not too hard.

[Daiz]

Even if the group itself doesn't have an RSS feed, you could always just use TokyoTosho's RSS feed and set up filters. It's what I do. *Group*Name*of*anime*mkv usually gets what you want just fine

[Havoc10K]

wasn't scary watre closing business ? l'm not saying they would have a lot of work to it, l only meant, fansubbing groups already do a lot of hard work, l doub't they'd take any effort into doing this, tehy are busy as it is l suppose, l'm not expecting it to happen at all, l have all intrest sites bookmarked so in order to get a new ep is just a click away.

[sungman]

wasn't scary watre closing business ? l'm not saying they would have a lot of work to it, l only meant, fansubbing groups already do a lot of hard work, l doub't they'd take any effort into doing this, tehy are busy as it is l suppose, l'm not expecting it to happen at all, l have all intrest sites bookmarked so in order to get a new ep is just a click away.

Most of what the OP is talking can already be implemented. Fansub groups really don't have to do anything.

[costi]

b) Scheduling software, which I believe Windows already has its own version of. It's easy enough to create a schedule for it to switch on for 4 hours every night and then go into standby again, just before you leave for vacation. I use it to switch on my laptop at night to do its own backups.

You set the time of startup in the BIOS (most mainboards offer that capability) and the shutdown time you also either set in the BIOS (if possible) or use shutdown.exe with a given delay to turn the computer off.

My friend uses shutdown.exe to reboot his router computer at home every five days (the software firewall he uses performs better this way), works like a charm.

[Lupin]

I don't see how fansubbers will benefit from this. Even if this is implemented, the problem will still be the initial distro since this won't speed it up. What this does automate the download process on the leecher end which as stated above can be implemented now.

[fohfoh]

True. And the bigger issue is finding the fansubs first. It's one of the easiest to figure out, but the biggest one to overcome.

"Who is subbing what?"

In the other thread about professional fansubs, I put up one where it's similar to the way you can grab CD information on the PS3. Just with media. "This media has multiple subtitles, which would you like to select?"