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Offline Jarudin

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Just Cause 2 rant
« on: April 06, 2010, 06:30:34 PM »
Oh my fucking God.

This game is really great, graphics are amazing .. but it plays like shit.
It's like the developers forgot that a game has to be FUN to play.

I should probably mention that I played borderlands before this. The thing I really liked about Borderlands is that it 'helps' you play the game, making it more fun and 'fast'0. Basically all the game mechanics are designed to keep you playing.

Just Cause 2 is the exact opposite. The controls are sluggish, aiming is really hard for some reason, driving a car properly is nearly impossible. Whenever a character gets hit it looks like he's about to die but no he gets back up, and again, and again, and again until he's finally dead. Even if you spray him with bullets from a tank and send him flying 30ft in the air, he'll just get right back up. There is no real indication of the 'health' of your vehicle. You can die while jumping off of a parked lorry. You wont die if you drive into a fuel pump at full speed, explosions everywhere, you just exit the vehicle as if nothing happened. You can't really 'hide' if you have heat, you either have to kill all pursuers wasting precious ammo or find a vehicle that can sort of out run theirs and gun it. Hiding on a roof or in the forest doesn't work. Oh .. and did I mention the load screens? I have a pretty fast PC so it never loads for more thant 5 seconds, but just the cut scenes every damn time you want to have one type of ammo dropped is just killing the game play. In Just Cause (1) you could unlock hideouts that had guns, vehicles and ammo available, much better solution.

And the worst thing of all: saving. For some reason, they forgot to properly test the most important game mechanic of almost any game: saving. In Windows 7 you need to run the game as administrator or it will not save, not even if it claims to be trying to save in game or even checkpoint saves. And it wont tell you it failed saving until you try to manually save (like after a few hours of playing). Then there is the problem of how the game saves. It doesn't actually save the actual game state, it's just using crude checkpoints. I was in a base, destroyed 90% of the equipment (for the THIRD TIME) knowing that there was this bug where you could die jumping off a parked lorry I decided to save just before, so save, then hook to the lorry, jump, lo and behold, I die again. So I load the save game .. and wtf .. I'm back to 33% of equipment destroyed and my tank is gone. So I walk out of the base to get a new tank .. MISSION FAILED and the load screen pops up. So basically I'm stuck, in the middle of an enemy base, with barely any ammo and no tank. Best Game Ever (not).

Now you're wondering, why are you posting this here? Go complain at Eidos' forums .. well I tried, and the story just gets worse. You know how these game markers don't really spend any time or effort on community building? Like how they get crappy free BBS' and give them even crappier skins? Well, the one at Eidos wont even let me register (probably a Chrome bug, but I can't be arsed to try another browser). For some reason it wont properly detect my captcha answers.

So, that was my rant .. I just had to get this off my shoulders.

Hate to see a good game ruined by bad support mechanics. Thank God I didn't buy this game yet.

--Jarudin--
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Offline mgz

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #1 on: April 07, 2010, 01:57:55 AM »
its ok jaru many developers focus heavily on making it look amazing so the commercial can look good and completely forget about gameplay.

Offline wolkec

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #2 on: April 07, 2010, 02:02:01 PM »
WHY WOULD THE WORST THING BE SAVING? Dont blame the game for ur crappy computer. The worst thing about this game is the voice acting. Its totaly fucked up, and thus making the game retarded

Offline samfisher1

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #3 on: April 08, 2010, 01:43:26 AM »
well my opinion is this game is to be played with the controller not the keyboard/mouse.


but yes its sluggish. and he wont die becose he is MANLY.

Manly men stand on top of jumbo jets and Surf till there plane hits the ground.

yes this game is fun in its own perspecive like grapping police cars to the road while driving and seeing em flip off the bridge.


yes the gfx are 10/10 and im happy with the 30 fps i get XD

yes the cars are diff to drive but hey. go steal another one


and the voices. ahahah. they just make the game feel stupid. but you dont play the game for the voice actors? do you ?

any how i like this game quite alot XD
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Offline lapa321

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #4 on: June 24, 2010, 04:12:51 PM »
I thought the voice acting and film grain was intentionally made to make the game resemble a cheesy action flick.

Anyway, aiming is adequate for a game like this. At first i was frustrated that i never seem to have enough bullets. Then i found out about aiming and i can now quickly take out a dozen cops in seconds from just one clip. That's with a mouse tho. Makes me wonder how you're supposed to take them on with a joypad. Does the console have autoaim?

Offline samfisher1

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2010, 08:16:37 AM »
lol a bit of an old topic but on the pc i used the 360 controller. it does have auto aim thank god  :D
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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #6 on: June 26, 2010, 02:09:40 PM »
I've only played the demo, but from what I've played it seems like I could just spend the entirety of the time playing it surfing things and flying around :D

Offline samfisher1

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2010, 12:26:03 AM »
true that
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Offline lapa321

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 12:56:39 AM »
Been playing a bit more. It's a cross between farcry 2, grand theft auto, and bionic commando.

Is there an easier way to hijack the helicopters? I've been pulling off the passenger first before finally getting on it and hijacking. It was pretty hard aiming at a small target and i often end up grapping the helicopter instead.

I did get curious tho on what part 1 was like.

On a side note. I did find it hilarious hearing people swearing in tagalog.
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Offline samfisher1

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #9 on: June 29, 2010, 12:41:17 AM »
well i allways grapple then shooot the passanger the hijack :) not sure if you can hijack the heli iff you kill the pilot in mid air
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Offline lapa321

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 09:15:43 AM »
Landed in the wrong area. I was thinking on how much of a pain it's gonna be to get to the mission area when i noticed the base i landed on had a tank parked in it. Hmm...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOV17T0mHnU

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 10:27:39 AM »
tank = win   ;D
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Offline lapa321

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #12 on: July 05, 2010, 03:56:28 AM »
Is it me or is Mercernary mode considerably harder. I seem to max the chaos bar way more easily and keep getting helicopters called on me. Vehicles keep going at me 3-4 at a time and helicopters have rockets and passengers so i can't just grab one anymore (Pilot only heli's are very rare now).

Offline lapa321

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2010, 02:03:40 PM »
Is there an easier way to hijack the helicopters? I've been pulling off the passenger first before finally getting on it and hijacking. It was pretty hard aiming at a small target and i often end up grapping the helicopter instead.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UdczPokuEpI

02:45

Oooh! You can grab the front! Gotta try that later!

Offline lapa321

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Re: Just Cause 2 rant
« Reply #14 on: July 08, 2010, 03:27:42 AM »
That was cool! Now instead of dreading the helicopters, i actually max the chaos bar so i can get free helicopters! They're now coming at me three at a time and i just hang off my damaged heli and swing over to the next one ^_^

Vertical Gameplay FTW!