Puma Phone

[GoGeTa006]

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http://www.pumaphone.com/
look at the video "see me in action"

looks pretty sweet huh?
solar powered and all
the design looks nice and the apps (at least on its own advertisement) looks pretty sweet

[Klocknov]

It does have a good luck to it I will agree with that. Now to the most pointless feature, that solar panel. A solar panel is going to do me as much good as a tampon would, it will give me a look of something useful but isn't. I find that my phone is in one of three places, sitting screen up on my desk, in my hand screen towards my face again up, or in my pocket. So looking at that last part, a solar paneled phone isn't going to be much more then a hassle, unless they also have a normal  charger.

[whiic]

I guess this is "eco" then. Solar panel on the hand side of your phone so that when you talk, it cannot recharge. Obviously it won't recharge in a pocket or phone holster either. On rainy days you'd be turning on lights on in the house to recharge the cells of your mobile. Obviously green, compared to a recharger with 80% AC/DC efficiency.[/irony]

Ok, if we assume that it can actually get enough light to recharge without being specifically placed in bright light (direct sunlight or right under a lamp) just how much electricity does a mobile phone consume during it's entire life? Take for example my old Nokia 6288 (battery: BP-6M, 3.7V, capacity not stated but 3rd party clones range from 900 to 1100 mAh) which can operate a week or so if not used at all and half a week if you make just a few calls or check the calendar every now and then, use the alarm clock functionality, etc. If we assume the phone was used to run battery completely dry every 4 days, and each charge is 1000 mAh*3.7V = 3.7 Wh (13 320 joules). You'd need to recharge the batter 90 times a year, and with pace of mobile replacement being around once every 1 to 3 years (even though I've had 6288 already for longer than 3 years which I consider nothing compared to how long I used Nokia 6150 before it... 7 or 8 years?) that is around 200 recharges over mobile's lifetime and a total of 740 Wh. You can save equal amount of electricity by powering down a high-end computer for two hours. That's just how "much" electricity a cellular phone consumer over it's entire life.

Obviously, if you think you save the environment by changing you phone to solar powered, you're dead wrong, considering how much manufacture of silicon chips takes energy and produce toxic waste.

But hey! It's got a pedometer. Kids can get an alarm when they're closer than 50 meters to a lolicon.

Odd features:
"sarcastic calculator" - wtf? Who needs sarcasm from a calculator?
"scratching turntable" - shit. No software turntable does any good sounds. Even DJs using CD players with "scratchers" know that. How could Puma be any better than DJ equipment manufacturers? I sense a lot of fail but apparently the reason why this feature is implemented is because the NIGGER wanting this feature aren't clever enough. (Average negroe: 60 point IQ. Sorry, it's statistical fact - not racism.)
"Puma Inside(TM)" - yeah. We definitely want to buy a new phone to get a screensaver or mascot you can "feed" with virtual food. I don't really know if it's interactive, only that it's a Puma.

Does that commercial page tell anything useful? It has a bike speed-o-meter that is probably based on GPS. Does it have GPS navigation software with maps as well? It can play some video with Puma in it (or if it's just for the purpose of promoting, maybe it's audio-only and purrrs) but can it play XviD? To me that promotion page if full of meaningless promotion talk. And I'd rather buy a Linux-based phone for all the third-party apps they support. Then it'd be limited only by raw processing power (which isn't much).

[sapsa]

whiic, you got your point there!

But It's like "Gucci", not allways the most usefull is the best
It's all about "Puma", someone that wear Puma close and is Puma fan will buy this PumaPhone
No matter if there is something more usefull than this

Thats how it work

And thanks for great Math there simple but it show the point

Peace ~

[whiic]

But It's like "Gucci", not allways the most usefull is the best
It's all about "Puma", someone that wear Puma close and is Puma fan will buy this PumaPhone

Don't really know or care about Gucci as they're famous of their handbags. Handbags are all equally ridiculous. Women are stupid as f*** carrying them around. It's funny then they look for their key/wallet/mobile phone... it usually taken eternity for them to find what they want. Handbags are just that convenient.

When it comes to Puma (or Adidas or Nike) the first things that come into my mind are either: sneakers or sweatpants, both equally non-sexy and extremely non-trendy outside negroe population (and so called "wiggers", white niggers, white rappers). Combine sneakers and sweatpants with college shirt or T-shirt with basketball player number (without said person playing basketball) and add bling with fake jewelry around your neck, a rolex replica and you got an epitome of extremely bad taste that stems it's power from jealousy and hate/love relationship toward the rich and combines it with the harsh reality of living in a slum and dressing up like a drug-addict. Fashionable? Don't care. It's bad taste anyway.

After the ugly image of a nigger/wigger wearing them, the next image that pops into my mind after hearing/reading word "Puma" (or Adidas or Nike) is the image of a small child, living in China, India, Vietnam or Laos, working 16 hour shifts while his/her dad is high on opium, at home.

So, Puma share it's place with Adidas and Nike as the symbol of extremely bad fashion sense, and is ethically a very questionable product. What else? Well, considering it's manufactured with cheap child labour, it still costs quite a bit to buy one.

Also, for other purposes than running on a paved ground, sneakers are bad shoes:
- clearly uglier than ankle length leather shoes, and impossible to keep clean (fabric absorbs mud, leather does not)
- gives less ankle support than military boots
- and unlike military boots (especially real military boots, not "military-look boots") they don't last 10+ years of use
- less breathing than sandals
- most leather shoes are actually made in civilized countries: Italy, Germany, ...even Finland
- and surprisingly you could get a sturdy, genuine leather product, made in a civilized country, by adults that get a proper wage and enjoy proper work conditions for the price of a "premium" brand made of plastic fabric in China in inhumane conditions while not being paid for it.

So whatever the use (except for running) these types of shoes is The Shit.

Ok, this phone isn't a sneaker or a pair of sweatpants. Judging from marketing material it's still targeted toward the same retards who dress up like that in public. Do I want to be equated to a wigger if competing brands like Nokia have a more business'y target demographic? That also means a better functioning calendar, and basic functions.

There's one important thing about that Puma Phone... can you use it to CALL someone?

[GoGeTa006]

Im pretty sure its got a regular charger also.... It'd be pointless if it didnt. . .you cant leave it in your desk overnight to charge. . . =.=

but yeah im pretty sure it should come with a regular charger and that thing is just . . .iono if you get lost in a desserted island or something and you dont have a power outlet anywhere near. . .

I mean. . .imagine if Tom hanks (in cast away) would've had a puma solar phone. . .pfft a lot better than wilson offcourse. . .

[whiic]

Good luck finding a base station on a deserted island. You know... cellular phones ain't quite the same as satellite phones... or even like radio phones. Thus wouldn't even be able to call your friend 10 meters away on that deserted island.

If your idea of Puma Phone reaching the peak of it's functionality is how well it would function on a deserted (but sunny) island, I probably agree with you. If I were to be stuck on a deserted island, it would be nice to have a solar-charged device that has animated Puma Inside(TM) for companionship. Other that that, it's useless.

[newy]

We don't want to hear/read your prejudices (since they are also wrong). Either you have something to say about the topic (the phone here) or shut the fuck up. One more of this derogatory comment and you have time to see for yourself if Puma only has "sneakers and sweatpants" and if the "fathers are high on opium" or if any child is working in a Puma factory at all.

[whiic]

We don't want to hear/read your prejudices (since they are also wrong).

Oooh... "wrong opinions". Probably comparable to detrimental knowledge and inferior art.

Either you have something to say about the topic (the phone here) or shut the fuck up.

What is there to say about the Puma Phone itself since the promotion page tell practically NOTHING about the phone itself but only about trendiness of the thing?

The facts need to be looked from somewhere else like:
http://techwizardz.blogspot.com/2010/04/sagem-puma-phone-specifications-and.html

Sagem, the French telecommunication company joined with the German Sports Brand Puma to introduce the new Puma phone - Sagem Puma. The company shows of the Puma smartphone at the Mobile World Congress 2010. Puma phone gets a 2.8-inch touchscreen display supporting a resolution of 320×240 pixels.

Sagem Puma Mobile Phone Specifications include 3.2 megapixel camera with LED flash, accelerometer, GPS with geotagging support, music player, a microSD card slot, 3.5mm audio jack, and Bluetooth 2.1 + EDR. The phone is also designed to support many sports function including stopwatch, pedometer, compass and GPS tracker. The phone also comes preloaded with Puma World Portal apps for accessing informations about various sports.

Sagem Puma Phone comes with support to GSM/GPRS/EDGE and UMTS/HSPDA/HSUPA networks and gets a solar panel that equipped with an indicator of the recharge level. The phone offers a 4-5 hours of talk time, up to 350 hours in standby mode and up to 24 hours for music playback with the 880 mAh battery. Sagem Pume phone measures about 102×56x13 mm and weight just 115g.

Sagem Puma Phone will be available in May 2010 and its price is around $500.

One more of this derogatory comment and you have time to see for yourself if ...

Was it because of N word, or was it because you are personally a fan of either Puma (or one of the other fashionable child-labour brands), or because you like to wear sweatpants and sneakers outside sports events? I'm not being derogatory now. Just asking it politely because I want to know if it was "wrong opinions" or bad way of expressing them that offends you.

I never said child labour is factual within Puma (at least today). I said that's basically MY brand image of any corporation manufacturing or designing & outsourcing production to developed countries. (This includes Apple Inc. for example.) Puma may well be among the smallest violators there since at least with Google search I didn't find any scandals that were around Puma in particular. I did find some for:
Nike: http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/nike-admits-to-mistakes-over-child-labour-631975.html
Adidas: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2000/nov/19/jasonburke.theobserver
In addition to these brand having been really in the mud, I wouldn't vow for other players in the same industry. After all, if they all claim to have some zero-tolerance policy to such things, how come some of them still get caught? Also, if they claim they don't use child labour, how can they actually aim to REDUCE what they tell does not exist? Now that would be a dilemma.

They are old news, but brand image is slow to change.

Anyway, if you as what is Reebok's stand on child labour, it's the same as Nike's. If you ask what Nike's stand on child labour, it's that they don't use one. If you ask if they use: sure. Yes they do (or at least they did, while denying it all the time). So basically we're left in a position of whether we take their word for it or not. After all, if they are manufactured in developing countries, how do you monitor the work conditions? The factories most likely have armed guards after all...

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Basically the only way to really be sure is if the factory is located in a civilized country where police has more authority than private guards and where labour union is allowed to exist (ironically "communist" China has banned labour union activity). Because otherwise you really do get this:
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/sports-firms-pledge-to-end-child-labour-1365314.html

Nowadays the problem is for example factory worn jeans. You know, unworn (uniform dark blue or black) are very unfashionable. Because of that, they need to be sanded. And that causes severe lung diseases in countries like Turkey. It may not be children but if the father dies at age of 30-40 for a respiratory disease, that is not-a-nice-thing.

If we want to discuss the phone, ignoring brand image, then anything about clothing industry has nothing to do with it, obviously.

[fohfoh]

Why the hell are people so damn angry in this thread?

It's a brand. It's not the first time.

Armani and Prada already have phones.

Nokia came out with a high end one called Vertu which is expensive as fucking hell but damn amazing looking phones.

And if anyone wants to bitch about an expensive phone that doesn't do much... try looking at the motorola AURA. THAT is more overpriced than any piece of technology I have EVER seen. Even moreso than the likes of Apple or Sony or anyone else by a HUGE margin. (IMO)