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Warcraft Cataclysm
HSSDamian:
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--- Quote from: HSSDamian on November 20, 2010, 04:32:31 PM ---Pre-Ordered Cataclysm for some reason, I don't even want it.
Gear is rigged to hell, over powered like crazy.
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Do you have any fucking idea how expansions work?
The stats are scaled up, yeah they may seem like a lot now, but that's how it was for BC and WotLK. The jump from Nax 40 epics to BC greens was pretty retarded, so I wouldn't be complaining now.
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It's max level is only 85 so why would ret pally's with normal gear have 50k HP, up from 30-35k (Level 80)
Before you know it, a level 10 will be running around with 30k HP and hitting 50ks.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: HSSDamian on November 21, 2010, 01:21:25 AM ---
--- Quote from: zat0x91 on November 20, 2010, 05:29:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: HSSDamian on November 20, 2010, 04:32:31 PM ---Pre-Ordered Cataclysm for some reason, I don't even want it.
Gear is rigged to hell, over powered like crazy.
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Do you have any fucking idea how expansions work?
The stats are scaled up, yeah they may seem like a lot now, but that's how it was for BC and WotLK. The jump from Nax 40 epics to BC greens was pretty retarded, so I wouldn't be complaining now.
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It's max level is only 85 so why would ret pally's with normal gear have 50k HP, up from 30-35k (Level 80)
Before you know it, a level 10 will be running around with 30k HP and hitting 50ks.
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Sarcasm aside. All your lovely ICC epics, even the heroic ICC gear will get replaced by high-end greens or any level 81-83 blues (81 for sure).
My shadowmourne is going to get replaced with a level 81 crafted blue sword ... The highest tier item, is that good enough? You can't go inside most normal five man instances with your ICC gear (84-85 basically) let alone the heroics are fucking epic crazy which require you to have ilvl 333 which is recommended by blizzard, also the instance will gear check you before you can get in. I'm not making it up. I played the Beta and to prove it here is a sample of people with few greens-blues and ICC high end epics (heroics) trying to do a 5 man heroic dungeon ...
Wrath was shit, BC expansion was so-so (kinda better than average) and I loved vanilla. Cata is a combination of Vanilla and BC. Check the video up there, watch the entire video and listen to this dude... there's a bunch of videos on youtube and commentary's on how hard heroic 5's are all about. you also need heroic items (and some exceptional blues) in order to do a cata raid.
xfreidax:
Just watched that vid. Couple quick questions.
So there's going to be a heroic mode for all the vanilla instances tuned for level 80+?
And how viable are moonkins for dps these days? Did they eventually end up giving balance druids cc? Like roots that you can use in instances that will actually stick.
I'm tempted to play again. I stopped after BC.
psychodude:
--- Quote from: xfreidax on November 21, 2010, 09:02:41 AM ---Just watched that vid. Couple quick questions.
So there's going to be a heroic mode for all the vanilla instances tuned for level 80+?
And how viable are moonkins for dps these days? Did they eventually end up giving balance druids cc? Like roots that you can use in instances that will actually stick.
I'm tempted to play again. I stopped after BC.
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Currently in Wrath Boomkins if capable with their class can do insane amounts of DPS, as any other rDPS class basically. Their CC abilities are still pretty similar as to what it used to be, but the efficiency of that just like in the past is still the same, high. Don't hit it, it won't get messed up. They're great snarers, and if you just have a good communication over vent you can snare a bunch with druids and nuke 1 target at a time where needed.
The latter in Cata will definitely become important.
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: xfreidax on November 21, 2010, 09:02:41 AM ---Just watched that vid. Couple quick questions.
So there's going to be a heroic mode for all the vanilla instances tuned for level 80+?
And how viable are moonkins for dps these days? Did they eventually end up giving balance druids cc? Like roots that you can use in instances that will actually stick.
I'm tempted to play again. I stopped after BC.
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They're really good thou' they were buffed in certain areas and nerfed in other areas (starfall was nerfed since it was too damn powerful). Only two instances from Vanilla are getting a re-work for a 5 man heroic to what I heard.
Most classes just got some CC abilities, like warrior's intercept if glyph'd can stun for 4 seconds. Plus we also get a 40 yard range Heroic Leap which allows the warrior to leap in the air and to his or her enemies very quickly, landing ontop of them which will stun them for 1.5 seconds and does 100% damage in 8 yards to any enemy around them. Shares CD with charge and has a 1 minute CD (charge is about 20-25 seconds). We also get Throwdown (Arms only) which stuns the target for 5 seconds and is a 45 second CD. That's just us. Rogues have enough stuns so nothing new in them (they can heal themselves now but for very low amount). Other classes can do some other wicked stuff. I would say come back the last 3 days before Cata comes out and prep yourself. I'm sure the world will be Sundered by then.
You did a good job by avoiding Wrath, it really sucks for PvE content other than ICC raids (downing LK and doing heroic modes is fun). Wrath is just utter junk. Cata is a lot better than what people think. I thought it was going to be another Wrath and inflating the numbers seemed like a bad idea. But they have good reasons behind it and they're doing everything the way it must be done to make it challenging and enjoyable.
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