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Sakubo:
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on April 09, 2011, 08:23:34 AM ---if you can tank Grim batol hc without losing anyone, you are a good tank :)
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Being a good tank doesnt mean you wont have bad dps. I have tanked several heroic grim batols before I quit wow a few months ago and the dps was just bad. First boss poeple couldnt figure out how to keep the add with the debuff sheeped or whatever and would get me killed. Second boss poeple dont avoid the fire during the shield, stand in the falling rocks etc, 3rd boss poeple get themselves blown up all the time and 4th boss poeple dont do crap for dps so all the adds own you. I used to hate getting that dungeon as random cause poeple used to be so bad@@
Tatsujin:
--- Quote from: Sakubo on April 09, 2011, 09:46:02 AM ---
--- Quote from: Havoc10K on April 09, 2011, 08:23:34 AM ---if you can tank Grim batol hc without losing anyone, you are a good tank :)
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Being a good tank doesnt mean you wont have bad dps. I have tanked several heroic grim batols before I quit wow a few months ago and the dps was just bad. First boss poeple couldnt figure out how to keep the add with the debuff sheeped or whatever and would get me killed. Second boss poeple dont avoid the fire during the shield, stand in the falling rocks etc, 3rd boss poeple get themselves blown up all the time and 4th boss poeple dont do crap for dps so all the adds own you. I used to hate getting that dungeon as random cause poeple used to be so bad@@
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I carry so many people in Grim Batol as an Arms Warrior. As much as I used to love Fury, Arms is more suitable for my taste and I enjoy wielding a single two hander to devastate my opponents. Grim Batol is like the one instance I end up carrying the others, considering that we have an okay tank and okay healer.
Meandola:
Grim Batol is just one of the reasons I try to do heroics with guildies only, though the rare good pug heroic is much more satisfying imo :P
Tatsujin:
When you tank it or heal it, it's a fucked up story. But if your DPSing it, things can go a little well for you providing that you can do 20k+ dps single target.
Havoc10K:
spending a few minutes on explaining tacs isn't much of work, I did it on a pug with some people before DBM was even updated to the release, the Cata release was quite different from the PTR versions, so we went "lets go in and see how it works" and we lost NO ONE, the key point in pugs is that you HAVE TO talk to your party, see if they are actually knowing the instance, if you are a tank, you should pay attention to trash DPS, if there is even a sliver of fail, you gotta do something fast, my shaman dps doesn't get 20k dps on single target, but it's not like elemental shaman dpsing is that easy either, it's all haste and timing, if you have a bad rotation you might get kicked yourself, but yeah, if people don't know simple knowledge that you should avoid shield fire, elemental explode, adds must die faster than they form,
the first boss minion is piss easy, his hp is relatively low, you can sacrifice the dps and have all ranged dps just nuke him, that is how we always do it, the biggest annoyance is the exploding minion on third boss, a fail there is painful.
i think grim Batol is one of the 3 heroics where you simply must do perfect before doing a raid, at least once do a perfect stroll, and it should be a pug, menage that, and you shouldn't have much problems with most raids, as Grim Batol, Deadmines and Stonecore (all bosses) usually can't be scored perfect, there is always one fail somewhere on the road, but those three can be cleared with a perfect score, and it is so satisfying to do so. :)
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