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Warcraft Cataclysm
kyanwan:
--- Quote from: Arveene on May 01, 2010, 05:45:46 PM ---WoW died for me when I had to run Naxx again in WotLK. Healing is also boring as fuck. It used to take some skill to heal properly with the 5 second rule, downranking (why oh why did you remove this blizzard), and healing rotations. (vanilla WoW) Oh and went the game got dumbed down to nothing too. I've heard ICC is better, but I'm not a fan of arbitrary content blocks. Herp derp, we can't make content too hard or people will complain about the difficulty and how they can't get easy purples. So we make content that's easy with optional "hard modes" but then these good players clear the instance in 1 week. I know! Let's just make it impossible to clear by not having it in fully in the game yet.
Edit: I've been following some of the Cataclysm changes and nothing looks particularly interesting to me. I would be lying if I didn't admit to wanting to level one more character to 60 before the zone changes happen.. I can't imagine what it'd be like if I actually cared about the game still.
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Try druid healing.
1-2-3-4 - then make sure nothing wears off.
Then you need healbot or some other crap for your whole party, everything's about timing or this or that bullshit - and that's it.
Personally, I like oldschool RPG with some complexity - I hate how they cap the enhancements. You could really pump up your char like you could do in Tabletop D&D for example - or - better, a PC D&D that adheres to tabletop rules.
( Surprisingly - I'm loving DDO with all its complexity. I tried to sign up for this - ages ago, nearly a year ago - but they weren't taking new customers. :( The last RPG that I really loved - a lot - was Neverwinter - but there was just so far you could take it. WoW is a really dumbed down title - and they're dumbing it down even more - to make it the Call of Duty of RPGs. Now - I hope they keep it complex. The complexity alone is enough to drive away a majority of the assholes you get on [ insert title name ] --- plus ---- D&D has a level cap of 20. Yeah. That's not changing either. If it hasn't changed for NEARLY 40 FUCKING YEARS - it's not changing now - to satisfy some little twats. )
Have you seen what happened with ICC? They added a buff called "Strength of Wrynn." The last time I played - it was at 5 or 10%.
Now - they buffed it to 30% - so every noob and their grandma can play. Now, any loser can have a cakewalk through the whole thing. If you were doing 10k damage before - you're doing 13k now. Your defenses are upped 30% - then your stronger self upped by all your buffs. Insanely easy.
I'm guessing they've made it like Onyxia with people in T9/10 gear fighting - you can take a breath, brush it off & walk away from it like nothing.
Bullshit.
There's no challenge anymore, no nothing.
Worst thing - I only played for a little over a year and a half. :P They're not in it for the game - they're in it for masses of idiot players.
Worst of the worst - those bastards selling gold.
Um. Hello? Can we IP Ban China/Asia/Non-US & Europe already? Let those assholes play on their own servers? I'm so fucking sick of China. Fuck China. ... I better cut the post before I get a bannable offense going here. :P
zat0x91:
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on May 02, 2010, 05:57:21 PM ---Aion Vision > WoW Cataclysm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8 <-- aion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llMIDqFbsnE <-- cataclysm
I personally think the worgen were uncalled for and even more for the alliance. . .I mean IIRC humans hate em ?
Plus I dont remeber them ever being mentioned in the book, but I do remember arugal (which i believe is a worgen?)
i dont know. . .i havent played since BC came out
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Let's judge a game by the graphics, awesome!
Last time I played Aion, it was a fucking grindfest with poor end game content.
--- Quote from: kyanwan on May 02, 2010, 07:48:23 PM ---Try druid healing.
1-2-3-4 - then make sure nothing wears off.
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Try doing that on any hard mode in ICC. GL
--- Quote from: kyanwan on May 02, 2010, 07:48:23 PM ---
Then you need healbot or some other crap for your whole party, everything's about timing or this or that bullshit - and that's it.
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It makes it easier to heal try reading the description sometime.
"HealBot allows for 60 key mouse combinations to cast any beneficial spells."
--- Quote from: kyanwan on May 02, 2010, 07:48:23 PM ---Personally, I like oldschool RPG with some complexity - I hate how they cap the enhancements.
( Surprisingly - I'm loving DDO with all its complexity. I tried to sign up for this - ages ago, nearly a year ago - but they weren't taking new customers. :( The last RPG that I really loved - a lot - was Neverwinter - but there was just so far you could take it. WoW is a really dumbed down title - and they're dumbing it down even more - to make it the Call of Duty of RPGs. )
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Go play a feral druid and do some good DPS, then you'll think twice about the game not being complex.
--- Quote from: kyanwan on May 02, 2010, 07:48:23 PM ---Have you seen what happened with ICC? They added a buff called "Strength of Wrynn." The last time I played - it was at 5 or 10%.
Now - they buffed it to 30% - so every noob and their grandma can play. Now, any loser can have a cakewalk through the whole thing. If you were doing 10k damage before - you're doing 13k now. Your defenses are upped 30% - then your stronger self upped by all your buffs. Insanely easy.
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Wrong, it's at 15% as of now and 10% a week ago. Every month will increase by 5% from what they have done already.
shabutie:
--- Quote from: Arveene on May 02, 2010, 02:41:23 AM ---
--- Quote from: iindigo on May 02, 2010, 12:37:24 AM ---Actually, not everything is becoming easier in Cataclysm. 5-man content, at least, seems to be reverting to something closer to how it was back in TBC - that is, 5-man instances will have more bosses (Uldum, for example, will have 7) and they'll require crowd control again. No more of this mindless AOEing everything down stuff.
Also, didn't they say that the loot dropped in 25-mans, while being the "same items" will be scaled up (and thus still better rewards)? I could have sworn I read that in the post.
And by the way, you won't need to purchase Cataclysm to gain a large amount of its content... you will have to for worgen and goblins of course, but they have confirmed that the zone changes that are happening are happening for everyone, regardless if you have the expansion or not.
Besides that, the graphics are getting quite a boost... I mean look at this!
(click to show/hide)
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No, they're going to be the same items. In 25 man you just get more items. 5 man content was.. hard in BC? The only time it was hard was pre heroic nerfs. Shattered Halls or Underbog anyone?
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More like Heroic: CoT Durnhold Keep :P (Honestly... Did anyone ever finish that pre-nerf?)
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Anyways... I still play, and probably will still play when Cata hits. Do I enjoy playing? Not really... It's just something for me to do and feel productive.
Raiding is a joke, so I've kinda given up on that (Haven't done much in ICC or even ToC, but I really don't care about that content... ToC was a poor excuse for a raid lorewise)
I've been trying my hand at PvPing and Becoming a BG hero. Currently working on some 2v2's with my bro.
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And the changes for 10 mans and 25 mans having the same loot and lockout (AND SAME DIFFICULTY, don't forget that!) is a bonus I think... That means you (shouldn't) get as burned out on doing the same content twice in one week.
I know I gave up on raiding back in Naxx10/25 because I was sick as hell of doing the same bullshit over and over again... And the content wasn't interesting or hard for that matter.
PvE has become way too gear based for me to care. And it's not like getting geared is hard. (LOLGEARSCORELOL)
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Edit:
--- Quote from: kyanwan on May 02, 2010, 07:48:23 PM ---Worst thing - I only played for a little over a year and a half. :P They're not in it for the game - they're in it for masses of idiot players.
Worst of the worst - those bastards selling gold.
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This actually made me 'lol' because I started thinking of the new mount they added to the game... That celestial steed one. Apperently, they were saddened by the fact that Invincible (Arthas's mount) had a low drop rate and instead of upping it... They reskin it and put it up for sale at 25$ an account. Seeing everyone run around with one on my server (which is a pretty low pop... and by pretty... I mean horribly) makes me think of all the quick cash they just got...
Mirgond:
CoT was okay ^^
We cleared The Dark Portal pre nerf (okay, we were one of two 5man-groups on the server who could pull that off ;) )
GoGeTa006:
--- Quote from: zat0x91 on May 02, 2010, 07:48:53 PM ---
--- Quote from: GoGeTa006 on May 02, 2010, 05:57:21 PM ---Aion Vision > WoW Cataclysm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5PAM0wr7cZ8 <-- aion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llMIDqFbsnE <-- cataclysm
I personally think the worgen were uncalled for and even more for the alliance. . .I mean IIRC humans hate em ?
Plus I dont remeber them ever being mentioned in the book, but I do remember arugal (which i believe is a worgen?)
i dont know. . .i havent played since BC came out
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Let's judge a game by the graphics, awesome!
Last time I played Aion, it was a fucking grindfest with poor end game content.
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thats a completely different story. . .and when was this? (and theres a discussion for it actually). . .but yeah I stopped playing a couple of weeks back (final exams n projects due) and I dont recall a "grindfest". . . its not as spoonfed as WoW... ill give you that tho
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