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Warcraft Cataclysm
zat0x91:
--- Quote from: Stereojar on May 05, 2010, 09:43:01 AM ---Game was extremely easy mode :S
About 4 weeks after WotLK release, we were clearing all content in 4.5 hours .... (both 25man and 10man)(had a very good guild). The game was pretty much over for me by then. Boss fights were piss easy most of them being tank and spank. Acquiring good gear was easy as well with that piss-easy heroic farming, PvP was retarded it didn't matter on skills AT ALL anymore...Quit the crap a while before Ulduar patch came out. Haven't played since, but i still miss the good old vanilla days
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You shouldn't even judge WoW on T7.5 content, which everyone knows was complete shit. Once Ulduar came out, it was actually good.
Ever heard how hard Yogg+0, Firefighter, Freya +3, or all the other Ulduar HMs were in 226 / 239 gear?
Yeah, then talk about the game being easy at that point.
vicious796:
I always consider most people talking fondly about Vanilla and dissing WotLK similar to how a guy will talk about his exgf from 5 years ago right after a bad breakup with a "newer" girlfriend. It's amazing the things you "forget".
iindigo:
--- Quote from: vicious796 on May 13, 2010, 01:05:40 PM ---I always consider most people talking fondly about Vanilla and dissing WotLK similar to how a guy will talk about his exgf from 5 years ago right after a bad breakup with a "newer" girlfriend. It's amazing the things you "forget".
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While that's true at least to some extent, some aspects about Vanilla were indeed better. One of the best examples I can think of was the community - yeah, there were assholes then and there are assholes now, but I can't help but feel that they're much more numerous these days. Server communities were also closer, and a person could easily become widely known for their exploits, good and bad alike - you developed a reputation quickly. Even in battlgrounds, there'd always be that one opposite faction character that you had a bone to pick with. Now though? It's all random faces. You'd be lucky to run into the same person twice.
People were tons more patient, too. I remember Strat, Scholo, and UBRS runs that would take upwards of an hour and a half to two hours and a number of wipes, yet the members of the group would usually stick around until you finished the instance (unless it really got that unbearably bad). Now? Wipe once and half your group has left, and the other half doesn't know how to get from the graveyard to the instance portal since they leveled the entire way to 80 while sitting queued in Stormwind -_-
shabutie:
Don't forget the BRD runs that too the better half of your afternoon :P
vicious796:
--- Quote from: iindigo on May 13, 2010, 01:45:28 PM ---
--- Quote from: vicious796 on May 13, 2010, 01:05:40 PM ---I always consider most people talking fondly about Vanilla and dissing WotLK similar to how a guy will talk about his exgf from 5 years ago right after a bad breakup with a "newer" girlfriend. It's amazing the things you "forget".
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While that's true at least to some extent, some aspects about Vanilla were indeed better. One of the best examples I can think of was the community - yeah, there were assholes then and there are assholes now, but I can't help but feel that they're much more numerous these days. Server communities were also closer, and a person could easily become widely known for their exploits, good and bad alike - you developed a reputation quickly. Even in battlgrounds, there'd always be that one opposite faction character that you had a bone to pick with. Now though? It's all random faces. You'd be lucky to run into the same person twice.
People were tons more patient, too. I remember Strat, Scholo, and UBRS runs that would take upwards of an hour and a half to two hours and a number of wipes, yet the members of the group would usually stick around until you finished the instance (unless it really got that unbearably bad). Now? Wipe once and half your group has left, and the other half doesn't know how to get from the graveyard to the instance portal since they leveled the entire way to 80 while sitting queued in Stormwind -_-
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I understand this but that's what happens when something becomes "popular" - more people use it. The percentage of assholes is probably about the same still, they're just the only ones that ever speak. Normal folks keep to themselves and their guilds and leave trade chat unless they're looking for something and are willing to sift through that shithole.
I think your BG scenario may be very dependant on your battlegroup. I play on Thrall and at all levels I tend to que up and find myself having a very personal (at least on my side) battle with some jackass I can't get away from.
Once again, with increased numbers typically results in increased idiots and more of a "what have you done for me lately" type deal. I know on Thrall (where my main is) one wipe in a PUG typically is the end of it. It's frustrating and a big reason why I am in some level of support of the new 10/25 man changes that are coming (being an officer in a 10 man guild). I won't feel penalized for not wanting to put up with that bull shit.
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