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Video playback on a netbook
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--- Quote from: vuzedome on May 12, 2010, 04:32:00 PM ---
--- Quote from: lapa321 on May 12, 2010, 12:52:17 PM ---http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=amDq8qpE1U0
Looks like the 1201N can run 1080p. The video uses Queens Blade as an example.
Now i'd like to know if the u230 can do it too :D
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Youtube 1080p quality is nothing compared to THORA's or CG's, not even eureka's or DTS-WIKI's or even CBGB's encodes will play on that thing.
VLC 720p with an MP4 container, could be anything in that for the video.
And Queen's Blade was sluggish even on a slow paced scene and did you see what that guy used?
WMP!! \o/
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Stop spreading lies please. That computer can do THORA's 1080p with 10% cpu usage. It's called DXVA/CUDA, you use the gpu to decode the video. As I said I have a nettop with the exact same specs and it can do 1080p without any problems what so ever, I just tested a high action sequence of Thora's 1080p release of Appleseed - Ex Machina and I had cpu usage of 7-11%.
Flash 1080p are much more demanding btw. This clip http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XITHbsUUlYI with flash 10.1 for gpu decoding uses 20-30% cpu.
Now considering the size and resolution of the monitor it might be fairly pointless to watch 1080p but that has nothing what so ever to do with the capabilities of the rest of the hardware.
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If you say so.
The thing is, I've heard of a lot of people just barely capable of 1080 via the use of coreavc on approx 1.6Ghz C2D+ laptops. Now, the only reason I hesitate on this netbook is because I'm not entirely sure how well they play. I dare not say "flawless" because I cannot guarantee it's true. It may have slight hiccups at times, blah blah blah etc. 720 for sure will work AFAIK, but 1080? 70-95% capable of 1080 per my guesses, because even my C2D @ 2.0Ghz isn't flawless at 1080p.
22" LCD? O_o Why not just invest in a VGA cable and connect to a tv? If it works as it is capable of, this might be a hell of a good replacement for many HTPCs and will probably blow popcorn hour and the WD playback thing out of the water in term of portability, file capability, function etc.
Put it this way. "Flawless" I will not guarantee. There's still a chance that the whole setup will slow to a crawl if the netbook overheats when doing this function. 720 will have no problem at all AFAIK. 1080 will be close, but probably doable.
I seriously have no idea whether that vid card is "that good" for decoding videos though. So many cards are advertising this... yet I am quite capable of 1080 on a intel 950 which is an older graphics card and afaik, scores like a 2.3 on the windows experience index.
vuzedome:
I know DXVA, and I sure damn know that both the Geforce 9400 and HD 3200 do not have the grunt to process 1080p bitrates!!
720p, yes! It can do it! But 1080p....... Like I said, depending on the bitrates. Go download CG's Tayutama and THORA's K-on!, only the OP, play it, if it runs smoothly with minimal frame drops(less than 25), then I take back everything. Oh, you are allowed to use pre-buffering for the subs to make it fair.
Mcgreag:
--- Quote from: vuzedome on May 13, 2010, 01:34:53 AM ---I know DXVA, and I sure damn know that both the Geforce 9400 and HD 3200 do not have the grunt to process 1080p bitrates!!
720p, yes! It can do it! But 1080p....... Like I said, depending on the bitrates. Go download CG's Tayutama and THORA's K-on!, only the OP, play it, if it runs smoothly with minimal frame drops(less than 25), then I take back everything. Oh, you are allowed to use pre-buffering for the subs to make it fair.
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K-ON! Op flawless with same cpu usage. Same for Tayutama, even during the first seconds, no hickups what so ever. Bit rate is NOT going to be a problem. The thing was created to support Blu-ray which has higher bitrate than all those encodes (upto 40mbit/s while the k-on op for example are around 10mbit/s).
Going higher than the High profile might be a problem but if you do that most software decoders (like x264) won't even support it.
vuzedome:
Oh? This is most interesting!! I need to get my hands on one to see it for myself.
What's the brand and model of your's? I'm considering getting one now.
I've read through reviews and all have mentioned the same stuff I mentioned before, but now that I have someone here claiming otherwise, I just have to try it out myself.
Mcgreag:
I have this one:
http://www.asrock.com/nettop/overview.asp?Model=ION%20330
If I where to buy now I would get:
http://www.asrock.com/nettop/overview.asp?Model=ION%20330HT
It's basically the second version with some more extra features (wifi, remote, esata etc) for 25$ more.
There's also a bluray version of both of them available.
Of course there are lots of others with same performance. Which one you want it mostly dependent on other factors like formfactor, look, extra features etc. Some other popular systems:
Asus EE Box 1012/1501
Acer Aspire Revo 3610
Point of View Sydney
Or you can get a motherboard like the Zotac ION ITX A Series 330 and build your own.
There are one thing to consider with these systems and that's that they do not support bitstreaming of the new HD audio formats like DTS-HD and Dolby TrueHD, it has to convert them to LPCM. This is only an issue if you want real blurays (I have yet to see a rip that use them, they either go with AAC or FLAC) and have a new surround receiver that supports them.
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