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Offline Tiffanys

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Adobe Photoshop CS5
« on: May 18, 2010, 05:17:58 PM »
For those of you that are a bit behind on technology news, Adobe's released their Photoshop Creative Suite 5, and it's a pretty big step up from it's predecessor CS4.

http://www.adobe.com/products/photoshop/photoshop/

The main thing you need to know with CS5 is the Content Aware algorithm that it has. You can check out these videos for some of the new stuff CS5 has:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NH0aEp1oDOI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dgKjs8ZjQNg

It's a pretty big leap.

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Now, since I've had some time to play around with CS5 already, I figured I'd help the rest of you out that are just now starting with it. Once you get (or are trying) CS5, here's some of the first things you might have trouble with...

Pixel Grid: An annoying white grid once you get past a certain zoom level. To fix this go to View > Show > Pixel Grid
Zoom acting wonky: To fix this select the Zoom tool, then Uncheck "Scrubby Zoom"
Dragging a file into Photoshop with another open puts the new file in the active image: As a workaround, instead of dragging the new image into the main plane, drag it instead to the tab bar which displays the image names. This will open the image by itself, as it did in CS4.

You're also going to quickly come to realize that the Content Aware algorithm isn't exactly as magical as it's hyped up to be. It's a great tool, but it isn't going to magically fix everything you try it on. On most the video examples out there it's used on fairly simple images, and it works pretty well with those. But with much more complicated images, it's not going to work perfectly. For example, removing text from a wood floor has proved to be less-than-magical with the new Content Aware. Also, removing text from an intricate plaid background proves rather difficult as well. It's still a pretty nice new feature, and worth the upgrade. But, don't go in expecting it to magically do everything for you like you see on the videos with every image you try.

Anywho, feel free discuss whatever you'd like about CS5.

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #1 on: May 18, 2010, 05:30:28 PM »
From the few things I have seen about Photoshop CS5 I have been pretty impressed with what I have seen....

I am the Sys Admin of a small publishing company and we use Photoshop - currently using CS3. We have some friends who code at Adobe, and they recommended us to hold off with CS4 and wait until CS5 before considering upgrading.

Good to hear about your experiences with the much touted Content Aware tool ... any other specific types of images you have found it not so helpful with, or that you have found it works amazingly well with?

We usually use PS for touching up old photos or sometimes removing items from photos proper (like telephone poles and wires, or cars, for example). Have you done similar work as this is PS5 and can you comment if there is an improvement from previous versions for doing something like this?
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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #2 on: May 19, 2010, 09:59:13 AM »
I upgraded from CS4 to CS5 a day or two ago. Haven't used it much yet, but at least for a Mac version, there's a noticeable speed boost; most notably when doing a cold launch. This is running on 2.66 quad i5 w/4GB RAM, just for reference.

Something I find myself doing every single time I upgrade PS is setting the layout back to that of PS 6/PS 7 complete with the "fat" toolbox, since it actually has the things I use frequently (plus it's what I'm used to). None since seem quite as functional. I mean, what were they thinking when they took the History pane out of the default layout? And I don't need the filters gathered into a massive space-eating palette... the menu items and key shortcuts work just as well as they always have -_-;



Adobe really needs to cut some of the fat out of PS, though. Back with PS 6, 7, and CS1, it weighed in between 80 and 300MB. Now it's a whole freakin gig.
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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #3 on: May 19, 2010, 11:31:12 AM »
Hmm... that's quite impressive actually. Makes me want to obtain a copy and test it out. "Fixing" was the main reason I dropped PS in the first place. With content aware making "fixes" for me, I might actually not need to spend hours to figure out how to make a fix that takes me 45 minutes to fix.
Which occurred once before. This occurred once, for which I ended up just sending someone the picture in question and asking for them to help me make the fixes. (removal of random hair strands on face, artifacts, lens flare and a really weird red eye issue that we both had issues fixing for whatever reason)
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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #4 on: May 19, 2010, 05:20:55 PM »
....Adobe really needs to cut some of the fat out of PS, though. Back with PS 6, 7, and CS1, it weighed in between 80 and 300MB. Now it's a whole freakin gig.

Absolutely QFT on this ... app is way too large imo.
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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #5 on: May 19, 2010, 05:46:42 PM »
....Adobe really needs to cut some of the fat out of PS, though. Back with PS 6, 7, and CS1, it weighed in between 80 and 300MB. Now it's a whole freakin gig.

Absolutely QFT on this ... app is way too large imo.

I don't really see a problem until a useful program approaches 100 gig, unless the size effects the speed of the program.

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #6 on: May 19, 2010, 06:01:04 PM »
....Adobe really needs to cut some of the fat out of PS, though. Back with PS 6, 7, and CS1, it weighed in between 80 and 300MB. Now it's a whole freakin gig.

Absolutely QFT on this ... app is way too large imo.

I don't really see a problem until a useful program approaches 100 gig, unless the size effects the speed of the program.

I'm with Sosseres on this one :P


Hell, most anime series are in between 1-10 gigs.  I think most of us can spare 1 gig for photoshop ^_^

Anyways, getting mine now.  Probably won't be able to use it until later tonight/tomorrow   (Who am I kidding?  I know I'm gonna use it as soon as I get back from class!)

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #7 on: May 19, 2010, 06:50:46 PM »
Anyone see this parody yet?

Absolutely hilarious, even though the Content Aware Fill is awesome.

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #8 on: May 19, 2010, 07:31:25 PM »
Hmmm.. mayby i will check it out, CS4 wasn't soo cool, i just got that for GPU acceleration so 8800gt would help me with PS, hope i wont have so many problems with 5 like i use to have with 4.

Something I find myself doing every single time I upgrade PS is setting the layout back to that of PS 6/PS 7 complete with the "fat" toolbox, since it actually has the things I use frequently (plus it's what I'm used to).

I love your layout !

And, yes - TRUE, it was even less than 80mb. I started with Photoshop 3 (not cs3, simple 3) - and I see that whatever version PS is out, it dose the same thing - just have 1000000x more effects that i never used :) and in the great finally it will be 10Gb im saying like CS7 will hit 10Gb.

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #9 on: May 20, 2010, 07:37:37 AM »
Something is wrong when a tool box weights over a gig. Stop coating the tools in diamond casing and just work on the product.
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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #10 on: May 20, 2010, 11:25:57 AM »
Just found:
"Adobe Photoshop.CS5.x86-x64.Pre-Release.Portable"
Size: 388.2 MB

Anyone tried it ?
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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #11 on: May 20, 2010, 12:41:54 PM »
Just found:
"Adobe Photoshop.CS5.x86-x64.Pre-Release.Portable"
Size: 388.2 MB

Anyone tried it ?
It's the White Bunny (splash screen is a bunny instead of regular splash) one... and it's a pre-release so obviously things are going to be missing. I also found most of the .zip archives to be corrupt, I only managed to unzip like 4/7 of the files... but all you need is to unzip the first one to get the basics working, lol.

I'd just get the full installer for Photoshop CS5, it's out there on the internet somewhere.

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #12 on: May 20, 2010, 12:49:14 PM »
Its pretty easy to find the entire master suite of CS5 already. Installed it a few weeks ago, but as I've just finished uni I've not had much reason to use it yet.

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #13 on: May 20, 2010, 01:21:03 PM »
Just found:
"Adobe Photoshop.CS5.x86-x64.Pre-Release.Portable"
Size: 388.2 MB

Anyone tried it ?

I... definitely wouldn't get that one, if you're going that route.

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Offline razirazo_90

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #14 on: May 20, 2010, 01:23:07 PM »
Just installed it weeks ago, but I like CS4 better. Will buy the genuine CS5 it if there is Student license promotion though.

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #15 on: May 20, 2010, 03:12:43 PM »
just download the trial from adobe. you will only need to download 1 other tiny thing to get it to work...

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #16 on: May 20, 2010, 09:45:46 PM »
The content-aware thing made me shit bricks. I removed not one, but FOUR cows from a field!

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #17 on: May 20, 2010, 10:06:09 PM »
The content-aware thing made me shit bricks. I removed not one, but FOUR cows from a field!

It's ok.

I find that after I remove something with it I still have to go through and touch it up a bit.

Overall it works for quick fixes and whatnot

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #18 on: May 20, 2010, 10:43:37 PM »
The content-aware thing made me shit bricks. I removed not one, but FOUR cows from a field!

It's ok.

I find that after I remove something with it I still have to go through and touch it up a bit.

Overall it works for quick fixes and whatnot

The smaller the thing you want to remove, the easier and better-looking it is

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Re: Adobe Photoshop CS5
« Reply #19 on: May 21, 2010, 06:34:53 PM »
Yay for student discounts!  :D

I just wish they had a "create your own bundle" option.