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K7IA:
I have to admit that my initial response was based on my interpretation of microeconomics that "you work because you are qualified to do something that other people are willing to spend money on and the result is income" which is not even suitable in a village economics any more.
After all these years, I still can not digest the fact that "you have work because you are alive and you need money to survive".
Supply and demand curve simply irritates me when it comes to humans and I really despise those who are desperately trying to quantify humans and their worth.
If you are down and out and you have mandatory responsibilities to fulfill, I guess it is better to seek any opportunity to work rather than rob the nearest bank or commit a crime.
Just don't forget that you are human being.
mgz:
--- Quote from: Ixarku on May 29, 2010, 01:51:23 AM ---Wow, no mercy in this place. Seriously, folks, please lighten up on the criticisms. A smidge of compassion costs nothing, and I don't recall reading posts from anyone begging for a handout -- simply some people venting some of their frustrations. There are a lot of stories out there of people losing their jobs, their homes, and everything they have through a series of bad circumstances and little fault of their own. (And, of course, a lot of stories of people losing everything due to their own stupidity.)
I know plenty of people who have been out of work for periods of time ranging from 6 months to 2 or more years, unable to find work in their fields or even in unrelated fields. Some of you guys are quick to say, "get any job you can get your hands on" but often times that low paying job may not be enough to pay the bills or feed the kids, and sometimes there are logistics that either make it impossible or not worth it to take such a job. And people DO make mistakes or act on incorrect information when job hunting from time to time... some of you guys seem to have little sympathy for anything less than perfection in the job hunt.
I consider myself extremely fortunate to have the job I have now. I've been unemployed in the past for 2 to 6 months at a time, and I know how depressing it is to job hunt unsuccessfully. I'm not advocating a society of free loaders, and I surely despise the people that abuse social safety nets. Personally, I’ve borrowed money in the past from friends to stay afloat (and paid it back), but I’ve never taken a government handout. Believe me, I recognize that sacrifices are often necessary in order to get through long-term financial difficulties. It’s simply a bitter pill to swallow, and many people have a tough time recognizing or accepting what really needs to be done to get through their particular challenges.
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<- was unemployed and got a job, my job hunt involved sitting home most of the day sleeping and grabbing lunch with a couple friends while making about 2k a month after taxes taken out from my unemployment.
You get no mercy when you sit and make excuses why you arent getting jobs. I know the reason i didnt get a job was because i want about 2 or 3 months off cuz at my last job i rarely got to take a day off. So in 4 1/2 years i had maybe a week of time i TOOK OFF.
But sitting there saying the state wont let you get a part time job etc etc. Is bullshit as i posted in response to the person who claims they apply to 10 jobs a day and cant get a fucking job.
MerryLilith:
I'm replying to as many things as possible. So understand that something said before or after what "you" wrote may not have the same tone of voice behind it.
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Q.
Can I collect unemployment benefits if I work part-time?
A.
If you work part-time, we reduce your benefits using the earnings deduction chart (gross earnings minus $5 times 75 percent).
You must still meet the job-search requirements while working part-time.
If you did not work more than 17 hours in any week in your base period, you may need to look for only part-time work.
Working part-time usually extends the number of weeks you can draw benefits. Additional earnings also may help you qualify for a new claim when your benefit year ends.
thats from the washington state unemployment site. So in short go fuck yourself bum
http://www.esd.wa.gov/uibenefits/faq/faq-ui.php
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You know what, Fuck you. I never asked for your 2 cents and I'm not planning on taking it. You said yourself that you don't give a shit about the job market in Seattle(it's spelled with 2 t's), but that's my primary concern. The market here is SATURATED with people looking for work. Which means that I do have to apply to 40-50 jobs in a week if I want to get even ONE call back in a month. You can go ahead and criticize all you want, you can tell me that CareerBuilder/Monster/what-have-you shows jobs avaliable. But guess what? In Seattle the only "jobs" listed without hundreds of applicants are those that have SCAM written all over them. So, sorry if I don't think that you being able to use your google-fu to one up me on knowledge of WA laws/Job Search sites/whatever makes your "advice" worth anything.
--- Quote ---<- was unemployed and got a job, my job hunt involved sitting home most of the day sleeping and grabbing lunch with a couple friends while making about 2k a month after taxes taken out from my unemployment.
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So you gamed the system and you think everyone else does? Well, good to know your an asshole who only considers your own actions and not those of others. Your experience was yours and mine is mine. Don't even think you can compare the two because they are vastly different. I also wonder if your experience was during a recession and if you'd still be unemployed if it was.
--- Quote ---I know plenty of people who have been out of work for periods of time ranging from 6 months to 2 or more years, unable to find work in their fields or even in unrelated fields. Some of you guys are quick to say, "get any job you can get your hands on" but often times that low paying job may not be enough to pay the bills or feed the kids, and sometimes there are logistics that either make it impossible or not worth it to take such a job. And people DO make mistakes or act on incorrect information when job hunting from time to time... some of you guys seem to have little sympathy for anything less than perfection in the job hunt.
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THANK YOU!!
I think the OP wanted to start a thread where those of us in this position could commiserate together and be mutually supportive. That hasn't happened. :(
--- Quote ---Life itself shows no mercy. As much as you'd like to believe otherwise, in this reality, it's survival of the fittest. Sometimes, an ice cold dose of reality is what gets people motivated. Coddling is not always the answer.
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How is taking part in a system that I pay into "Coddling"? I make half as much a week on UE then I did working and I work just as hard on a day-to day basis as I did when I had a job. Actually, considering my last job I work harder.
Do you think I like being on UE? Until it happened to me I thought that I would never allow myself to get placed in this sort of situation. But I made some life choices about 4 years ago that have come back to haunt me. I made a mistake in moving to the west coast, I know that now but the old adage about hindsight is still accurate to this day.
--- Quote ---Believe me, get some expertise while you are young, don't just work. It is immensely more difficult to seek a job when you are over 30 with no concrete and noteworthy work experience.
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THIS! I turned 30 this year and a lot of the "Oh, you're fresh out of school. Isn't that cute" attitude employers are willing to show the 20-somethings has all gone. Which is why I went into a training program so I could become a CPhT. I now have a vast knowledge of policy/procedure, pharmacopoeia, techniques. I just don't have the experience to go with it at the moment.
vuzedome:
You know how to cook?
If yes, go to the nearest Chinatown, say you can cook, and you're an assistant chef, work your ass off while trying for others.
Can't cook?
Too bad, but try going to the nearest Chinatown anyway and see what is available.
Never give up, never back down, if you're willing to work, regardless of the conditions, there're always undesirable or unfavorable jobs that people just don't want that you can fill.
mgz:
--- Quote from: MerryLilith on May 30, 2010, 01:46:02 AM ---I'm replying to as many things as possible. So understand that something said before or after what "you" wrote may not have the same tone of voice behind it.
--- Quote ---Quote
Q.
Can I collect unemployment benefits if I work part-time?
A.
If you work part-time, we reduce your benefits using the earnings deduction chart (gross earnings minus $5 times 75 percent).
You must still meet the job-search requirements while working part-time.
If you did not work more than 17 hours in any week in your base period, you may need to look for only part-time work.
Working part-time usually extends the number of weeks you can draw benefits. Additional earnings also may help you qualify for a new claim when your benefit year ends.
thats from the washington state unemployment site. So in short go fuck yourself bum
http://www.esd.wa.gov/uibenefits/faq/faq-ui.php
--- End quote ---
You know what, Fuck you. I never asked for your 2 cents and I'm not planning on taking it. You said yourself that you don't give a shit about the job market in Seattle(it's spelled with 2 t's), but that's my primary concern. The market here is SATURATED with people looking for work. Which means that I do have to apply to 40-50 jobs in a week if I want to get even ONE call back in a month. You can go ahead and criticize all you want, you can tell me that CareerBuilder/Monster/what-have-you shows jobs avaliable. But guess what? In Seattle the only "jobs" listed without hundreds of applicants are those that have SCAM written all over them. So, sorry if I don't think that you being able to use your google-fu to one up me on knowledge of WA laws/Job Search sites/whatever makes your "advice" worth anything.
--- Quote ---<- was unemployed and got a job, my job hunt involved sitting home most of the day sleeping and grabbing lunch with a couple friends while making about 2k a month after taxes taken out from my unemployment.
--- End quote ---
So you gamed the system and you think everyone else does? Well, good to know your an asshole who only considers your own actions and not those of others. Your experience was yours and mine is mine. Don't even think you can compare the two because they are vastly different. I also wonder if your experience was during a recession and if you'd still be unemployed if it was.
--- Quote ---I know plenty of people who have been out of work for periods of time ranging from 6 months to 2 or more years, unable to find work in their fields or even in unrelated fields. Some of you guys are quick to say, "get any job you can get your hands on" but often times that low paying job may not be enough to pay the bills or feed the kids, and sometimes there are logistics that either make it impossible or not worth it to take such a job. And people DO make mistakes or act on incorrect information when job hunting from time to time... some of you guys seem to have little sympathy for anything less than perfection in the job hunt.
--- End quote ---
THANK YOU!!
I think the OP wanted to start a thread where those of us in this position could commiserate together and be mutually supportive. That hasn't happened. :(
--- Quote ---Life itself shows no mercy. As much as you'd like to believe otherwise, in this reality, it's survival of the fittest. Sometimes, an ice cold dose of reality is what gets people motivated. Coddling is not always the answer.
--- End quote ---
How is taking part in a system that I pay into "Coddling"? I make half as much a week on UE then I did working and I work just as hard on a day-to day basis as I did when I had a job. Actually, considering my last job I work harder.
Do you think I like being on UE? Until it happened to me I thought that I would never allow myself to get placed in this sort of situation. But I made some life choices about 4 years ago that have come back to haunt me. I made a mistake in moving to the west coast, I know that now but the old adage about hindsight is still accurate to this day.
--- Quote ---Believe me, get some expertise while you are young, don't just work. It is immensely more difficult to seek a job when you are over 30 with no concrete and noteworthy work experience.
--- End quote ---
THIS! I turned 30 this year and a lot of the "Oh, you're fresh out of school. Isn't that cute" attitude employers are willing to show the 20-somethings has all gone. Which is why I went into a training program so I could become a CPhT. I now have a vast knowledge of policy/procedure, pharmacopoeia, techniques. I just don't have the experience to go with it at the moment.
--- End quote ---
i dont give a shit if you want to ignore or take my advice it doesnt change the fact that you said your state only lets you get full time jobs which was complete bullshit.
I live in an area that is more clusterfucked with people then seatle so dont cry about saturated job markets. I live 20 minutes by train from NYC 30 minutes by car from philly and live in the most densely populated state in the country. If i can find a job pretty much anyone should be able to unless you are doing something wrong.
And the reason i pointed out that applying for 50 jobs a week is fucking stupid is because you do no follow up. One of the lectures i had to sit through while on unemployment here in jersey is nonsense about how if you follow up with the assholes your applying to you increase the chances of them contacting you by a silly amount because if nothing else it gets your fucking name in front of someone.
This is something your definately NOT doing if your applying to 50 jobs a week
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