Author Topic: Trouble with Seeding  (Read 1521 times)

Offline Evilfairy

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Trouble with Seeding
« on: June 01, 2010, 10:44:52 PM »
Hey Everyone

I'm new here, but glad that I finally found a community that seems to actually care about the quality of their torrents and making sure that people seed them. However. That's also a problem for me.

I live in the middle of the English countryside, and my maximum upload speed is about 100kB/s. Now, I download a LOT more than I can upload despite the fact that I am seeding the torrents I have as much as possible, simply because it is not physically possible for me to keep my ratio high without seeding for weeks.

Now, as you can imagine this would prove a problem even if I could be uploading at my maximum speed, but I can't; No matter how hard I try (I've spent about 2 hours trying to find a way to boost my upload speed) I can't get my torrents to upload at any decent speed simply due to the fact that people with faster internet connections seed as fast as the downloading party can cap. The fastest I was ever able to seed so far was 9kB/s and that lasted for about a minute before dropping to 1.2kB/s again.

I decided that I could try to at least keep my account unlocked by donating to the website, however I can't do that either because donations are closed.

So my question is this:

What am I supposed to do?
I download and watch a lot of anime and this website is by far the best one I've seen so far in terms of what I'm looking for, but I can't contribute.

Can you give me any advice on what I could do to try and get seeding?

Thank you.
-Evilfairy

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #1 on: June 01, 2010, 10:58:34 PM »
First of all:

Read the Wiki


(Why the hell do we bother to write one if no one reads it?)

Oh, and then read the sentence again that was above the registration mask:

We are a public tracker, and you do not need an account to use our torrents. Registered users get some privileges, but they are also required to maintain a decent ratio on their account. Please think carefully before registering.

Then again:

Read the Wiki


If you still have questions after that, ask again ;)

Uh, i almost forgot something (Edits are nice :) )

Our Forum has a searchfunction... learn to use it ^^

(Really, we get such a thread once per week -.- why oh why)
« Last Edit: June 01, 2010, 11:02:10 PM by Mirgond »

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #2 on: June 01, 2010, 11:01:08 PM »
First of all:

Read the Wiki


(Why the hell do we bother to write one if no one reads it?)

Oh, and then read the sentence again that was above the registration mask:

We are a public tracker, and you do not need an account to use our torrents. Registered users get some privileges, but they are also required to maintain a decent ratio on their account. Please think carefully before registering.

Then again:

Read the Wiki


If you still have questions after that, ask again ;)

Uh, i almost forgot something (Edits are nice :) )

Our Forum has a searchfunction... learn to use it ^^

(Really, we get such a thread once per week -.- why oh why)

Okay, I understand you are trying to help here, but you're reciting the basic things that most idiots ignore. As stated in my original post, I have spent between 2-3 hours doing nothing but reading on how to try and get seeding well. I noticed that there were several threads on the subject already, however after reading through those and attempting the advice already posted I still had the problem of finding it hard to seed, hence why I created a new thread.

Now that we have (hopefully ¬_¬) gotten over that unpleasant situation, I ask again. Do you, as a community have any advice on how I could possibly improve my seeding. I am not expecting an admin to pop into this thread and go "Don't worry newcomer, just press this magic button and it'll all be fine!".

I understood the implications when registering, and I expected to be able to seed and keep a good ratio, however I am finding that difficult, thus bringing me back to the original point which is why I posted here.

Thank you.
-Evilfairy
« Last Edit: June 01, 2010, 11:08:30 PM by Evilfairy »

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #3 on: June 01, 2010, 11:10:25 PM »
I live in the middle of the English countryside, and my maximum upload speed is about 100kB/s.
Me to, and am the second biggest uploader on the site  ;)

You can either do things the cheap way, log out and download via the guest account, then seed it back on your account

or if you want to do it properly, you can buy a seedbox/dedicated server to seed on....since if you insist on downloading a lot using your actual account it's the only viable way.

as for improving your overall speeds, pick things with little seeds but decent demand...some xvid torrents are very good, or high demand torrents...like Black lagoon, Bebop, Naruto...popular stuff.
« Last Edit: June 01, 2010, 11:13:15 PM by AceD »

Offline Al_Sleeper

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #4 on: June 01, 2010, 11:13:47 PM »
If keeping you ratio in the grreen zone by using standard methods is too difficult for you, download files by using torrents with the public key, and then seed them back with your private key :).

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #5 on: June 01, 2010, 11:18:26 PM »
I live in the middle of the English countryside, and my maximum upload speed is about 100kB/s.
Me to, and am the second biggest uploader on the site  ;)

You can either do things the cheap way, log out and download via the guest account, then seed it back on your account

or if you want to do it properly, you can buy a seedbox/dedicated server to seed on....since if you insist on downloading a lot using your actual account it's the only viable way.

as for improving your overall speeds, pick things with little seeds but decent demand...some xvid torrents are very good, or high demand torrents...like Black lagoon, Bebop, Naruto...popular stuff.

Thank you, this is exactly the kind of post I was looking for.

I'll look into obtaining a seedbox, as yes I am serious about being a decent member of this community and not just looking for a quick fix for free anime.

I'm perfectly capable of finding a host if required, but before I go looking around are there any hosts you would recommend? I'd much rather know I'm buying from somewhere recommended by other users than somewhere that may or may not screw me over.

Thank you for the help.

If keeping you ratio in the grreen zone by using standard methods is too difficult for you, download files by using torrents with the public key, and then seed them back with your private key :).

Thanks, I'll look into getting a seedbox first as this seems to be the more... "morally correct" option.

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #6 on: June 01, 2010, 11:18:35 PM »
if there would be a magical button the community would know of
1) you would find posts about it using the search function
2) we would include it in the wiki. ;)

you can always just logout to not care about your ratio.

other thoughts: 100KB/s is actually a pretty decent upload speed considering the general average.

the point Mirgond most likely tried to convey was: how can you possibly expect a magical solution to pop up only because you specifically created a thread - even though in a dozen similar threads (you apparently read) no other solution was offered.

the option about getting a seedbox is actually pointed out in the wiki :P
(admittedly under the not exactly describing headline "Oh dear, I'm going to have to sell my house, car and dog to have enough to fix my ratio. Anything cheaper and faster?" ... lol)
« Last Edit: June 01, 2010, 11:23:49 PM by blubart »

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #7 on: June 01, 2010, 11:25:42 PM »
if there would be a magical button the community would know of
1) you would find posts about it using the search function
2) we would include it in the wiki. ;)

you can always just logout to not care about your ratio.

other thoughts: 100KB/s is actually a pretty decent upload speed considering the general average.

the point Mirgond most likely tried to convey was: how can you possibly expect a magical solution to pop up only because you specifically created a thread - even though in a dozen similar threads (you apparently read) no other solution was offered.

the option about getting a seedbox is actually pointed out in the wiki :P

I was being quite optimistic there - when I say 100kB/s is my max I mean the absolute fastest I could possibly upload at, in the middle of the night, with no other applications running and with no-one else in my area using the internet.

Usually, I can (realistically) reach about 65kB/s maximum, and I can manage 15kB/s before my other applications (I play an online MMORPG named World of Warcraft a lot) start to lag too badly to enjoy.

And yes, I understood Mirgond's post, however I tried to be as reasonable as possible in my first post rather than just "admin help pls my accunt being warn" or whatever nonsense you normally see. And what you just said is more or less the opposite to what I was trying to ask (It's late, I'm tired, and I have terrible insomnia so I'll probably read this later and see where you're coming from). I wasn't looking for a "magical solution", I just wanted general guidance on anything else that I could have missed.

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #8 on: June 02, 2010, 06:13:11 AM »
Pardon the language, but what the hell are you complaining about?

Europe has some of the best speeds. Really, they do. If you don't believe me, look at the world stats on Speedtest.

My max upload is 64KBps, and I limit that to 37KBps for torrents (27 for anime, 10 for other). And I'm not complaining. There are people using this site who live in Australia, and their speeds are even worse than this. Heck, 100KBps used to be my max download speed before I switched ISPs.

If you're really worried, seedbox or seed 24/7. The latter should be enough - set up a separate machine dedicated to torrenting and file storage, and have it always running. And watch your downloading and ratio before you get warned - at this rate, you will be when your grace period is over.

One more thing:
If you don't read the Wiki, you won't get.
Fixed that for you.
And for the record, just because your English is more readable than most n00bs out there doesn't mean you're less of a n00b. You're asking the same n00bish questions in the end, and we point them all to the exact same place, that magical place called the Wiki that they are told to go read when they register.

(P.S. you're lucky - if a certain other guy or certain other other guy found this thread before anyone else did, you would have been pwned badly like many poor n00bs before you)

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #9 on: June 02, 2010, 06:38:59 AM »
Usually, I can (realistically) reach about 65kB/s maximum, and I can manage 15kB/s before my other applications (I play an online MMORPG named World of Warcraft a lot) start to lag too badly to enjoy.
Wait wait wait. Hold the phone... you can use the internet WHILE torrenting? Wait wait wait. You can play MMOs WHILE torrenting?.... I envy you so badly right now.... I have to choose! Using the internet or Torrenting. There is no middle way.

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Offline Evilfairy

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #10 on: June 02, 2010, 06:48:35 AM »
Alright, just a quick update.

1. First of all, thank you for the advice about what to seed, I'm now uploading as fast as I can handle.
2. It's hard for me to tell what's good and what isn't. The largest majority of people I speak to are from Scandinavia, who laugh at me on a regular basis and point out that they have a 10/50/100Mb/s upload speed. In comparison to that, 65kB/s is abysmal and as such my comparisons are pretty far out, so therefore I apologise for complaining about something which I haven't really researched.
3. To those saying "read the Wiki", I repeat once again: I already read as much of it as I could. If I were to read something and still have questions, chances are after the 3rd time I've read it I'm not going to keep thinking "Do not worry, I shall suddenly interpret this in a completely different way and therefore I will understand it", I'm just going to ask on the forums. Yet another reason why I stated in my original post that I had already spent time reading, which is why a link to a page that my history is currently full of was not was I was looking for.

Anyway, problem here is resolved, this thread can be locked now.

Offline Temuthril

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #11 on: June 02, 2010, 07:52:27 AM »
2. It's hard for me to tell what's good and what isn't. The largest majority of people I speak to are from Scandinavia, who laugh at me on a regular basis and point out that they have a 10/50/100Mb/s upload speed. In comparison to that, 65kB/s is abysmal and as such my comparisons are pretty far out, so therefore I apologise for complaining about something which I haven't really researched.
You are thinking of Sweden, not the whole Scandinavia.

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #12 on: June 02, 2010, 08:08:27 AM »
2. It's hard for me to tell what's good and what isn't. The largest majority of people I speak to are from Scandinavia, who laugh at me on a regular basis and point out that they have a 10/50/100Mb/s upload speed. In comparison to that, 65kB/s is abysmal and as such my comparisons are pretty far out, so therefore I apologise for complaining about something which I haven't really researched.
You are thinking of Sweden, not the whole Scandinavia.

I'm thinking of mainly Denmark, Norway and Sweden.

I'm fully aware that Sweden can tear almost any other country a new one when it comes to internet connections, however I asked a sum total of 35 people on my contacts list just now and I found 1 person that had a lower upload speed than me, and she was from Australia. Even my friends within this country have higher speeds than I do.

So once again, I understand that there are maybe people far worse off than I am, however when compared to the connections of other people that I have been exposed to, you can understand why I was led to believe that it was slow.

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #13 on: June 02, 2010, 02:15:16 PM »
If the complaint is about your speed then get a better ISP because nothing magical is going to get you faster speeds I'm pretty sure.

Make sure you're not throttled..etc..
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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #14 on: June 02, 2010, 02:56:02 PM »
100kB/s seems to be pretty low for a European country. For many years, Russia was well known for its bad internet connections, but now my ISP offers 5 MBit/5 MBit unlim as the lowest speed connection.

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #15 on: June 02, 2010, 03:10:31 PM »
A lot of crappy upload speeds in Finland as well... Never had over 50kB/s upload speed myself...

Plus I have to use a USB Dongle these days, since it's my best choice for internet these days... >.<

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #16 on: June 02, 2010, 03:12:10 PM »
@Al_Sleeper: not really, unless you want to pay a  lot, it depends on what it's worth to you...

Upstream costs the ISP's more, so that's throttled quite a bit compared to the download speed.
Max I've seen on my side is about 1.8 MB/s down and 130 kB/s up, and that's an average ADSL package.

But this is getting OT. ;)
« Last Edit: June 02, 2010, 06:10:10 PM by macros74 »

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Re: Trouble with Seeding
« Reply #17 on: June 02, 2010, 05:30:18 PM »
No really, unless you want to pay a  lot, it depends on what it's worth to you...

Upstream costs the ISP's more, so that's throttled quite a bit compared to the download speed.
Max I've seen on my side is about 1.8 MB/s down and 130 kB/s up, and that's an average ADSL package.

But this is getting OT. ;)

Ehh, the topic was resolved anyway, just waiting for a lock :)

So I'd rather have people go off-topic in my own topic, that I don't need anymore than cluttering the forums with yet another thread.