PeerBlock ~Effective IP Filter or Harmful~

[dogsinafen]

For a tracker based torrent it is just a bad thing. It takes up resources, helps minimally and blocks legit IPs. Over all it makes your torrenting experience worse without effecting the safety in a big way. If the trackers ran them it would have some effect, but they could get the info in any case.

It does block legit seedbox IPs. It was blocking the OVH network and A LOT of seedboxes are hosted in their datacenters. Thus a lot of great potential bandwidth is lost.

[sapsa]

hey,

After reading this topic i just want to say something:

What is the point of "hiding" torrents on seedbox ? I assume that seedbox is diffrent place than your home,
and after seedbox download what you want you transfer the files to your home via network?
so if "THEY" get your seedbox ip, they go to that company and the company gives the info of that seedbox
so anyway i see you guys using SeedBox as Proxy, cuz you download file via them not directly.

Its ok to use SeedBox for Ratio and Shearing but i dont think it's much more secure than downloading directly.

The PeerBlock thing got good idea but its imposible to block all IPs, and then they is a LAW that tell ISP to hold
your network activity for few years so anyways in the end they will see that you download from tracker or seedbox

[dogsinafen]

hey,

After reading this topic i just want to say something:

What is the point of "hiding" torrents on seedbox ? I assume that seedbox is diffrent place than your home,
and after seedbox download what you want you transfer the files to your home via network?
so if "THEY" get your seedbox ip, they go to that company and the company gives the info of that seedbox
so anyway i see you guys using SeedBox as Proxy, cuz you download file via them not directly.

Its ok to use SeedBox for Ratio and Shearing but i dont think it's much more secure than downloading directly.

The PeerBlock thing got good idea but its imposible to block all IPs, and then they is a LAW that tell ISP to hold
your network activity for few years so anyways in the end they will see that you download from tracker or seedbox

Wayyy off.
You use FTP to download from the seedbox to your home. If you do things right it means you're using a SSL FTP connection thus your ISP has no idea what you are transferring. As for uploading torrents to the client that's no problem... You can just copy paste the torrent link thus you do not need to download it... As for the operators giving you're identity to whom ever the chances of that happening is low since it's illegal without the proper court orders. Even then if that does happen... you have people who share the seedbox... thus it all gets very blurry.
So matters not if my ISP sees the IP I'm connection to... all they see is a nice encrypted FTP session that looks like TCP and not FTP.

[mrdkreka]

I think PeerBlock is useless, it do more harm than good. It has already been stated why it is pointless against these interest groups, and how it just block of for potential lecher and seeders. Luckily/unluckily for me my ISP has a firewall set up to protect our privacy, so we all have the same IP, and live in another city. The laws in our country is made so the ISP aren't needed to give interest groups like IFPI my information, so if they manage to track down my ISP, they wouldn't be able to get my information unless it was the police and it was about child-pornographic. The downside to it is stuff like DDL, where another person might use the same service as me, so one of us won't be able to download. But it isn't that bad since I don't need to find a software that maybe or maybe not give me safety

[sapsa]

hey,

After reading this topic i just want to say something:

What is the point of "hiding" torrents on seedbox ? I assume that seedbox is diffrent place than your home,
and after seedbox download what you want you transfer the files to your home via network?
so if "THEY" get your seedbox ip, they go to that company and the company gives the info of that seedbox
so anyway i see you guys using SeedBox as Proxy, cuz you download file via them not directly.

Its ok to use SeedBox for Ratio and Shearing but i dont think it's much more secure than downloading directly.

The PeerBlock thing got good idea but its imposible to block all IPs, and then they is a LAW that tell ISP to hold
your network activity for few years so anyways in the end they will see that you download from tracker or seedbox

Wayyy off.
You use FTP to download from the seedbox to your home. If you do things right it means you're using a SSL FTP connection thus your ISP has no idea what you are transferring. As for uploading torrents to the client that's no problem... You can just copy paste the torrent link thus you do not need to download it... As for the operators giving you're identity to whom ever the chances of that happening is low since it's illegal without the proper court orders. Even then if that does happen... you have people who share the seedbox... thus it all gets very blurry.
So matters not if my ISP sees the IP I'm connection to... all they see is a nice encrypted FTP session that looks like TCP and not FTP.

1. You think they cant encrypt ssl ftp connection ? (ha-ha)
2. Operators can give your identity
3. Oh yeah, blame your friends for leeching -_-
4. Downloading files from seedbox via ssl still make a big transfer in network and your ISP see you downloading something big.

Lets end this. you got your points i got mines - I dont see point for buying/making seedbox just for 1 persone when you use your pc 20-24/h

[dogsinafen]

My ISP does not care what I transfer nor should they care. I'm not sure what country you come from but in Canada we have privacy laws. No big deal if there is a constant connection to that server... They still do not know what I'm transferring.

1. Would be breaking laws doing that. Very unlikely they are even to try to do such a thing. Not only would this be extremely hard but it would cost them money... Greedy companies don't like to spend money for no reason.
2. Won't be my identity, not my credit-card that is being used.
3. What? Sever cost is split between my friends... no one is leaching anything...
4. And that matters why? Last month I downloaded 1.1TB, I've never had a call or a letter from my ISP.

Seedboxes are great... If you don't want to use one w/e not my problem or care. But people like leeching a great speeds and those speeds are due for the most part to seedboxes. My pc is on 24/7 but the upload connection is terrible thus keeping a good ratio on other trackers would be impossible due to how much I download...

[sapsa]

3. Server cost are split indeed - but if something bad happend you said "you have people who share the seedbox", so if you downloaded something you will blame they for that ? _._ No one care about that, if you using same seedbox you will get almost same jugment.
4. I been on internet since more than 10 years, recived only 4 mails from ISP (and it was long time ago, I just send them a respond that i dont know what they saying) But that was time when there werent any bt only some DC/Kazza/Mule - never get any mail more.

But still there is the law that the ISP need to collect all data about what you did bla bla bla for 3 years or 5, dont remamber now - so no matter what you would use there is a posible chance that you used to talk about it via msn other messenger or something so if they REALY want you to pay milions and lost client they would have the data to make you cry.

But still, we live in world where ISP fight for us and not want to lose us.

And still, seedbox mayby are great but theres not point to buy one outside home for personal use. And my up rate is so bad 50kB/s but still i manage to hold it at 0,9 here - so dont blame your "downloading addiction" im addicted to but still manage to be fine. To bad I run out of space ;( another few TB please.