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KeyWiteWolf:
Hi. I'm new to this sort of torrent site, so forgive me if this is a stupid question, but as I did not find it in the wiki or searching the forum I hope its ok to ask. I am worried about the legal repercussions of seeding. I had always been told that no one really goes after leechers/downloaders much (unless they are getting like 500gb in a shot or something obvious like that), but that its the seeders/uploaders that everyone goes after to take to court. Now again forgive if what I am asking is dumb, but how is it safe of have so many seeders in one well-known place? Don't get me wrong, if someone can explain this to me I am happy to seed the anime I download, I would like to see others enjoy the series I do. But I don't want a bunch of lawyers coming after me for it, I'm poor and all. The reason I even ask is up until now I was told the best thing to do to protect against that was as soon as a torrent finished downloading to remove it from the list, delete the .torrent file, and move the torrented files into another folder (or burn them off onto disk). I guess it might have been a bit extreme but it seemed like a good idea to err on the side of caution. But since this site wants us to seed, to a .5 or higher ratio, I want to know if its safe, before I try getting anything from here. (I understand if I can't get a 100% safety guarantee, but from what I was told before I am worried this place is a 100% jail time guarantee -_-). So anyway, if someone can explain this to me so that I am reassured I won't get in trouble, I would be happy to seed. Thank you in advance for your time. And again, sorry if this was already posted about and I missed it. --Key WiteWolf

blubart:
- getting the torrents here from bakabt (or any other place that shares unofficial releases of copyrighted content) is illegal, no matter if you download or upload
- even while downloading the torrent you are already uploading parts of the torrent, thus there is no real legal distinction between leeching and seeding in torrenting
- if you fear legal repercussions i would advise you to stop torrenting completely

Al_Sleeper:
http://bakabt.me/user/12057/houkouonchi.html
http://bakabt.me/user/724499/AceD.html

KeyWiteWolf:

--- Quote from: blubart on June 13, 2010, 07:06:50 PM ---- getting the torrents here from bakabt (or any other place that shares unofficial releases of copyrighted content) is illegal, no matter if you download or upload

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Well yeah, I understand that (though I tend to use torrents to preview anime myself... if I like it I buy it if its liscensed, if its not I keep the torrented file until it is. If I dislike it I just delete it.

--- Quote from: blubart on June 13, 2010, 07:06:50 PM ---- even while downloading the torrent you are already uploading parts of the torrent, thus there is no real legal distinction between leeching and seeding in torrenting

--- End quote ---
Ah, didn't realize there was not a distinction, I was misinformed.

--- Quote from: blubart on June 13, 2010, 07:06:50 PM ---- if you fear legal repercussions i would advise you to stop torrenting completely

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No, I will still torrent for my previewing purposes, otherwise I would never see anything. I just wanted to make sure this site wasn't significantly more likely to get me busted then any other site out there.

undetz:
Depending on what country you're in, downloading may or may not be legal, uploading is definitely a copyright infringement, though. (Unless you've got a license from the copyright holder)

There's no such thing as a 100% safety guarantee, but even with the lawyers' latest favourite sport being "Sue the random Joe for copyright infringement" it's fairly safe as long as you stay away from mainstream works. Music from the top100 charts and current movies are their favourite targets because a lot of people go for those, some anime series that's downloaded 3 times a week... not so much. Then there's the fact that they'd have to create new accounts every 2 weeks or so (and possibly get banned over it) because they can't maintain a decent ratio and monitor the activity of the torrents. A private tracker such as this is definitely safer than a public one, in a case like this the site owner is far more likely to get sued than any individual who's using it.

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