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Offline Sakura90

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One doubt about 日本語 :D
« on: June 18, 2010, 10:19:18 PM »
I don't know where to ask about this, so I thought coming here... someone in BakaBT should know :D


I was doing the exercises about adjectives (みんなの日本語一, 第8課 ;D) when I stumbled upon the 小さい and 大きい adjectives. There they are like い adjectives, but I remembered listening somewhere to 小さな and 大きな (like in the Clannad song, 小さな手の平, lol). So I searched in the kanji book and there it says:

大(おお)きい=大きな
小(ちい)さい=小さな

So, it's the same to use them as い or な adjectives? Or are there cases where I have to put 小さい and others 小さな?
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2010, 05:51:06 AM »
There's quite a few kanji that have multiple sounds. I can't say much else since I stopped taking japanese after the first 2 courses.
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2010, 06:39:57 AM »
Here's a tip, when trying to learn a new language, stop thinking in English, or any other language, adept into the one you're learning.
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2010, 08:50:16 AM »
I'll try and look into this, if I can find my books.

I'm sure I got the books somewhere in my room (it's a tiny bit messy in my room now, cant see the floor because of papers/books/reports).
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2010, 08:10:25 PM »
There's quite a few kanji that have multiple sounds. I can't say much else since I stopped taking japanese after the first 2 courses.
Here's a tip, when trying to learn a new language, stop thinking in English, or any other language, adept into the one you're learning.
Hehe, yes, but the thread was about a specific doubt I had with the form of two adjectives :D

I'll try and look into this, if I can find my books.

I'm sure I got the books somewhere in my room (it's a tiny bit messy in my room now, cant see the floor because of papers/books/reports).
Gunttatseb already answered me by PM with an explanation. Now I understand it. Thanks anyway :)
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2010, 10:45:41 PM »
A good, now I can delay cleaning my room until the end of the week XD
I'm pretty sure about the location of my Japanese books, just having difficulties reaching them.
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #6 on: June 23, 2010, 01:42:54 AM »
A good, now I can delay cleaning my room until the end of the week XD
I'm pretty sure about the location of my Japanese books, just having difficulties reaching them.
Lol, I'm trying to imagine how hard could it be to reach some books -that you know where they are- in your room. I can't ;D (some pics would be nice). This and this were my worst :D. Anyway, which books do you use? And how far did you get? I just finished level 1 in the course, waiting [impatiently] for the final exam to pass to lvl 2 ;D
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #7 on: June 25, 2010, 05:44:08 PM »
Lol, I just cleaned up my room yesterday and found my books XD Forgot to take a pic of the floor, will show you next time. You'll understand soon, how books can go missing in my room xD
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2010, 01:30:23 PM »
Gunttatseb already answered me by PM with an explanation. Now I understand it. Thanks anyway :)
Why answer in PM instead of replying? there may be others wondering the same thing.

Anyway just as a revision for myself, the reason is because these two adjectives are ones that can be used as either kind as one wishes, right?

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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #9 on: June 27, 2010, 08:46:54 PM »
B'awww I wanna learn Japanese, but it looks so damn difficult!

*gets Rosetta Stone*

Hmm...

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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #10 on: June 30, 2010, 02:48:08 PM »
(Not exact related to topic)
In my case, sometimes 日本魚(?) is weird.
Ex: Transformers -> Toransufoomaa
Also, while I can't understand 'Ignition' - Chino, I tried to hear it as Chinese(School 2nd lang)+English+Korean, It is matching to the fansub!
Ex:
(1) 'Wo' : chinese 'me'
(2) 'Mirai e' : korean 'future'/spoken 'mirae'
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #11 on: June 30, 2010, 03:03:10 PM »
(Not exact related to topic)
In my case, sometimes 日本魚(?) is weird.
Ex: Transformers -> Toransufoomaa
Also, while I can't understand 'Ignition' - Chino, I tried to hear it as Chinese(School 2nd lang)+English+Korean, It is matching to the fansub!
Ex:
(1) 'Wo' : chinese 'me'
(2) 'Mirai e' : korean 'future'/spoken 'mirae'

魚 , isn't that the kanji for fish? O.o Japan Fish O.O?
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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #12 on: June 30, 2010, 03:14:28 PM »
B'awww I wanna learn Japanese, but it looks so damn difficult!

*gets Rosetta Stone*

It's not as difficult as you might think. In my opinion, I think it's much easier then say, Chinese (mandarin/cantonese).

Rosetta Stone is great for vocabulary. But from what I hear, sucks on grammar and sentence structure. Which would make it the perfect starting tool to use, but don't expect to be fluent by the time you finish all their Japanese courses.

(2) 'Mirai e' : korean 'future'/spoken 'mirae'

Interesting. Mirai is also the Japanese word for future. It's also used as a girls name.

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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2010, 02:52:57 AM »
In my case, sometimes 日本魚(?) is weird.

魚 , isn't that the kanji for fish? O.o Japan Fish O.O?

Oh, sorry.
When I type '어' (Eo) in Hanja, windows lists '漁','語','魚','御','於','禦','圄','馭','齬','瘀'. What letter is right?
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Macross Frontier and Gaiking are good too.

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Re: One doubt about 日本語 :D
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2010, 07:59:25 AM »
In my case, sometimes 日本魚(?) is weird.

魚 , isn't that the kanji for fish? O.o Japan Fish O.O?

Oh, sorry.
When I type '어' (Eo) in Hanja, windows lists '漁','語','魚','御','於','禦','圄','馭','齬','瘀'. What letter is right?

If you mean something like; Japanese language. It is 日本語 (Nihongo)
Still don't really see why this is "sometimes weird" O.o
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