Your favorite anime villain?

[shabutie]

I wouldn't say Lelouch is a villain, he sort of redeemed himself by the end.

Light was evil, though.  He's a villain.  He killed like what, hundreds of thousands of innocents?

Death Note was a story from the point of view of the bad guy.

Actually, Light only killed a few innocents if I recall correctly.  Most of his kills were convicted felons and people hunting him.  I'd say he killed at MAX 100 innocents.

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There was L, Watari, Mellow, the FBI guys, the FBI guy's fiance, Near's team...  It's been a while but these are the ones I remember off the top of my head

A protagonist cannot be a villain in the narrative sense.  A villain is always an antagonist.

Hell, even if Light had been the antagonist, he'd still be an antihero, not a villain.

I'm going to have to agree.


Calling Light a villain is like calling Rorschach a villain (For those of you who've read/seen Watchmen).  They both have very black and white views of the world.

Those who do evil shall be punished while those who don't shall live in peace.

[lStealtherl]

Think you're missing the point, I'm not saying Light is a villain or not. I just stated it is nonsense that a villain cannot be the protagonist.

[dyk]

Papillon from buso renkin has to be the bad ass'sezt villan out there, hands down

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[Devergo]

Please try to post a picture of your pick, maybe not everyone has seen that particular character, thx!

[Jerbear10]

Please try to post a picture of your pick, maybe not everyone has seen that particular character, thx!

Kusakabe Misao from 11eyes                                                                                          the Slasher from Durarara!!

[barcibus]

A protagonist cannot be a villain in the narrative sense.  A villain is always an antagonist.

Hell, even if Light had been the antagonist, he'd still be an antihero, not a villain.

This isn't true.  Just about any place you look for the definition of villain makes it clear that a villain is simply an evil-doer in a story.  Any other rules people come up with are their own interpretations.

As for my favorites, I'd say Griffith, or Light.  Villains like Vicious are too simple imo, they serve their purpose to give the good-guys something to fight, but aren't much else.

[SeventyX7]

A protagonist cannot be a villain in the narrative sense.  A villain is always an antagonist.

Hell, even if Light had been the antagonist, he'd still be an antihero, not a villain.

This isn't true.  Just about any place you look for the definition of villain makes it clear that a villain is simply an evil-doer in a story.  Any other rules people come up with are their own interpretations.

As for my favorites, I'd say Griffith, or Light.  Villains like Vicious are too simple imo, they serve their purpose to give the good-guys something to fight, but aren't much else.

In strict literary terminology a "villain" is pretty much synonymous with "antagonist" so Light isn't a villain in that sense.  In the colloquial sense, however, Light is a villain.  He's evil.  That's the sense I thought this thread was about.

Oh, and executing people who've already been convicted of crimes and are serving their sentences like how Light did it was killing innocents.

[Zephyria]

Please try to post a picture of your pick, maybe not everyone has seen that particular character, thx!

Can't imagine people not knowing Light, but no problem!


I'd call 'Kira' Light more of a villain than an antihero. 

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Yes at first he only punishes criminals, but he ends up trying to proclaim himself as a god, which in itself arguably constitutes an evil person.  Then he kills not only what he decides as evil people, but anyone who opposes him.  He also uses Misa for his own ends, knowing she is going to shorten her lifespan, not once, but twice!  This isn't a "gray area of morality" here.  When you kill that many people who haven't done wrong to others, it's villainy.

Light is just a well written villain who happens to be the main character.  Death Note could've easily been written from L and Near's perspectives, since they are the "heroes" of Death Note, but it would have been less interesting.  That doesn't make Light any less of a villain, even though he is the protagonist.  I use the same reasoning Wikipedia does,

However, it is entirely possible for a story's protagonist to clearly be the villain of the piece, as is evident with characters like Vic Mackey (from The Shield), Tony Soprano (The Sopranos) and Walter White (Breaking Bad).

  Non-Kira Light could be considered a "hero" I suppose.

[lStealtherl]

A protagonist cannot be a villain in the narrative sense.  A villain is always an antagonist.

Hell, even if Light had been the antagonist, he'd still be an antihero, not a villain.

This isn't true.  Just about any place you look for the definition of villain makes it clear that a villain is simply an evil-doer in a story.  Any other rules people come up with are their own interpretations.

As for my favorites, I'd say Griffith, or Light.  Villains like Vicious are too simple imo, they serve their purpose to give the good-guys something to fight, but aren't much else.

In strict literary terminology a "villain" is pretty much synonymous with "antagonist" so Light isn't a villain in that sense.  In the colloquial sense, however, Light is a villain.  He's evil.  That's the sense I thought this thread was about.

Oh, and executing people who've already been convicted of crimes and are serving their sentences like how Light did it was killing innocents.

In strict terminology villain is not synonymous with antagonist. It is the evil-doer. That those two often coincidice does not make them synonyms! Lets make up some stupid examples.

Kings are often rich. That does not make "king" and "rich" synonyms.
Frogs are often green. That does not make "frog" and "green" synonyms.

Villains are often antagonists. Neither here are "villain" and "antagonist" synonyms.

Pretty much agree with the examples of why I personally think of Light as a villain, however good intentions he originally had. It does not justify any means necessary in order to achieve it, in my view. He crossed my line of "imaginary evil" (since evil is made up anyway and each persons boundaries vary) way too many times. Not to mention he lost the goal somewhere along the way.

[summertime]

Villain is not synonymous with antagonist. The protagonist is simply the main figure of a story, the character around whom the plot revolves. The antagonist is the opposing figure to the protagonist. Therefore Light is the protagonist and L is the antagonist. Obviously, L is a good guy, so he's not a villain.

That would make Light the villain, but I'd rather give examples other than exclusion. Setting the problem if the act of killing an evil man is evil aside, he's the villain of the story also because:
1. He's guilty of murdering uncorrupted law enforcers.
2. He's guilty of murdering innocent citizens and by that I mean his "publicists". As far as his other victims are concerned, he killed prisoners who allegedly "deserved the death penalty many times over"; that hardly makes them innocent, even if convicted.
3. The police chase him.

Thus, he's a villain and a protagonist. And Death Note is not the only work of art employing this technique. There are many other examples of plots and stories relying on the villain's point of view, say How the Grinch Stole Christmas, Dexter, etc.


Back to the topic at hand, I think I'll mention Reika Kitami from Bible Black. Cause there's hardly a hentai with a more prominent story line. 

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[Proin Drakenzol]

Papillon from buso renkin has to be the bad ass'sezt villan out there, hands down

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Lol @ Papillion. Busou Renkin was a great series.



Favorite villain, favorite villain.

Melkor Favorite anime villain.

Hmmmmm....

Papillion, I guess.

[BrownMasterV]

Mine is between Pilaf from Dragon Ball (hilarious) and Kira from Death Note (fucking genius!)

[Tiffanys]

I definitely thing Kira is a villain. He started out with noble intentions, but he ended up losing it and got egotistical and just wanted to become god and didn't care what happened to anyone else... just like a lot of other famous villains. It just may not seem like it because he was the one that was followed throughout the story.

[Hiiragi]

okay, I like a lot of villains -  too much to name just one...so here are a few of my favs:

Muraki from Yami no Matsuei  

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Seishirou from Tokyo Babylon and X

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Dilandau from Vision of Escaflowne

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Rosiel from Angel Sanctuary

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Nakago from Fushigi Yugi

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Ohtori Akio from Shoujo Kakumei Utena

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also +1 to Sepfhiroth, Light, Envy, Papillon,
and Sailor Galaxia from Sailor Stars

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[Killbasas]

My favorite would be King Bradley/Wrath.

[Havoc10K]

My favorite villian is from Durarara!! The Slasher!

Edit: oh also Kusakabe Misao from 11eyes

Wich Slasher, cuz Sonohara is the original Slasher hahah and she is not a villain.

[SeventyX7]

My favorite would be King Bradley/Wrath.

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Do you mean King Bradley AND Wrath, or King Bradley who was actually Pride?

Wrath was the kid.[/spoiler]

[Devergo]

My favorite would be King Bradley/Wrath.

Do you mean King Bradley AND Wrath, or King Bradley who was actually Pride?

Wrath was the kid.

Spoiler tags for these kinds of stuff please T_T

[stream]

My favorite would be King Bradley/Wrath.

Do you mean King Bradley AND Wrath, or King Bradley who was actually Pride?

Wrath was the kid.

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Bradley is Wrath in Brotherhood.

But Wrath is this kid in the "original",


Some information about it can be found here, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Fullmetal_Alchemist_characters
Brotherhood follows the manga, the first anime didn't and has a different story

[ramezrh]

3x3 Eyes : Benares. I know this might seem a strange choice but hear me out. In the DVD release this show has been redubbed but in the original VHS dub this guy was epic. He had the ultimate "don't f*ck with me or I will turn you're life into an un ending hell from which there is no escape" kind of voice. At the same time carried himself with a as long as things go my way there's no reason we can't be reasonable. This somehow made him even more terrifying than a simply force of destruction he played on you're fear.



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