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Freedom Kira:
It may have to do with the notify mechanism.
When you are downloading something, your computer has to continually send a response to the seeder, which is why you are always downloading some amount of data even when you are only seeding torrents. It's kind of like a "got it!" message that you have to send back for every fully downloaded piece of data.
If there is someone downloading from you at 70-90 kBps, if this person does not send the response quickly enough, you will seed one piece of data at 70-90 kBps, and then seed at 1 kBps to other people while you wait for the response.
This is why people recommend you keep your max upload speed limited to about 80% of your theoretical upload speed that the ISP tells you. Doing this will let your torrents run more smoothly, as the "got it!" messages can use the remaining 20%. Note that in this case it would be the downloader that does not have the right settings.
There's no guarantee that this is the cause, but it's a possibility.
Another possibility is that you are seeding to one person at the high speed, and then he closes his client after a while and you're left with no one to seed to except the slow ones. If your speed fluctuates rapidly, like at least once every two minutes, the response mechanism is more likely the problem. If it fluctuates slowly, like maybe once every hour or two, then the disappearing downloader is more likely the problem.
If it doesn't fluctuate very frequently, like if you notice the change only once or twice a week, it's probably just a lack of leechers.
Either way, you can't do anything about it.
Anyway, be sure to do what BuriaL said too. At least make sure things are fine on your side.
--- Quote from: jaybug on June 26, 2010, 10:29:55 PM ---I didn't say I couldn't upload. I just wonder how to do better than I am currently. Like those who upload to me at over 130kbps, which seems to be about the best I can remember seeing.
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Most people don't upload at 130 kBps. When you download at a high speed, it is the result of the combination of connections to several seeders that are uploading at lower speeds. That's how torrents work. Seeding works the same way - your upload speed depends on how many leechers you are able to connect to and push data at all at once.
(Edit: BTW, make sure you know the difference between b and B)
jaybug:
No, most of the people I download from do not upload at 130kbps. But I sure treasure them when I get one! lol
About the fluctuations, it's almost like a heartbeat. And it goes into defibrilation when I am downloading. At least on some torrents. Som recent and highly popular ones are just 400-500kbps and are done in 20 minutes. They may have two of those near hundred kbps seeders there. I guess that those may be the upload servers.
For the past 15 minutes, the new day started, and my client re-news its stats. I have uploaded nearly 63MB, and downloaded nearly 4MB, of which it is all overhead; I am not downloading any torrents right now. And over the past seven hours, I have maintained about 87kbps plus overhead.
I not that when I limit the number of torrents to say four, that usually I can upload at about that 87 level to one torrent. Sometimes I can't. And from reading here, I suppose that means the leecher has found some other seeder, and so my torrent is not needed as much.
I guess I worry as many of the torrents I am seeding took me close to a week to download. They're in the multi-GB range. So I want to upload as best I can.
So I guess my problem now is which of my torrents do I really want to be sure to share the love. Or do some of you try to upload hundreds of torrents, or pause most, or... dunno?
Or should I turn this topic into a what is your upload style, what is working for you?
Freedom Kira:
--- Quote from: jaybug on June 27, 2010, 06:26:03 AM ---No, most of the people I download from do not upload at 130kbps. But I sure treasure them when I get one! lol
About the fluctuations, it's almost like a heartbeat. And it goes into defibrilation when I am downloading. At least on some torrents. Som recent and highly popular ones are just 400-500kbps and are done in 20 minutes. They may have two of those near hundred kbps seeders there. I guess that those may be the upload servers.
For the past 15 minutes, the new day started, and my client re-news its stats. I have uploaded nearly 63MB, and downloaded nearly 4MB, of which it is all overhead; I am not downloading any torrents right now. And over the past seven hours, I have maintained about 87kbps plus overhead.
I not that when I limit the number of torrents to say four, that usually I can upload at about that 87 level to one torrent. Sometimes I can't. And from reading here, I suppose that means the leecher has found some other seeder, and so my torrent is not needed as much.
I guess I worry as many of the torrents I am seeding took me close to a week to download. They're in the multi-GB range. So I want to upload as best I can.
So I guess my problem now is which of my torrents do I really want to be sure to share the love. Or do some of you try to upload hundreds of torrents, or pause most, or... dunno?
Or should I turn this topic into a what is your upload style, what is working for you?
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In that case, it's very possible that the downloader can't respond fast enough to keep a steady high speed.
Yes, people do use seedboxes (or, as you coined it, "upload servers"), which are more popular on private trackers like BBT. Technically it's not 100% private but that's a different topic.
Hmm, what is your max number of connections uTorrent? Try setting it higher and see what happens.
And about sharing the love, pick the ones that has the least number of seeders per leecher. It's common sense if you think about it. Don't just pick the one with the most leechers. Remember it's your global ratio that counts, not individual ratios. So if you've uploaded 50 GB on a 10 GB torrent, and then upload 10 GB on a 20GB torrent, your ratio is 2.0 assuming you downloaded exactly one copy. It doesn't matter that the ratio on the second torrent is 0.5.
As for upload style, of course it varies by person. In my case, I have a separate computer that is like a server, which does all my torrenting and runs 24/7 aside from occasional reboots when it starts to slow down and hardware maintenance (dusting, etc.). On that, I have two clients running at once. One runs mostly anime and music torrents, and the other is for other small things, not BBT related. The anime/music one I limit to 27 kBps upload, and the other one 10 kBps (my upload limit is 0.5Mbps, yes it's sucky). Anime/music client currently runs 96 BBT torrents all at once (all seeding), though of course only a handful of them are uploading any data at any one time. I typically don't pause any torrents as I only check up on it once every couple days or less.
jaybug:
It would be nice if utorrent would let one copy and paste information. But...
Connections:
Global Max. 2000
Max. # peers per 100
Upload slots per 200
I made these changes yesterday, in the midst of my forum posting some time. My rate has seemed to steady out.
Funny, the highest seeds/peers ration torrent I have is the one from BBT. Lucky 13. Two torrents are infinite, as thou shalt not divide by zero.
The torrents here need to be paused when my wife wants to check her email, or surf/shop. She isn't too quick to resume them, as she really doesn't care. sigh
0.5Mb, and you call it sucky? Phhbbbt! I should be so lucky. I get 0.3 on a good day, and torrents paused. on speed test. Still I wish I could get closer to 0.3 from 0.08.
So what sort of upload rates are you seeing roughly, of an individual torrent of your 96? Of my 21 I range between ( and this is only of those which are actively uploading only, why count zero?) is around 1 on the low side to between 10-20Kbps on the high side. Note, I just realized that utorrent is using kB/s not kb/s.
Xiong Chiamiov:
Your upload speed will fluctuate because it's based on demand. You can't upload if no one wants it, and you can't upload faster than someone can download.
I personally use the results from this calculator to determine my settings, then tweak them as I see how it does. I would recommend choosing settings that allow you to perform basic internet-utilizing tasks while the torrents are still running, as then you don't have to bother pausing and unpausing them.
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