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Offline tyrael_pl

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Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« on: July 02, 2010, 09:16:13 PM »
hi there, this is my first post here so ill begin with a word hello all :)

now to the bottom of matter
i cant figure out what are requirements for a torrent to get seeded status instead of Incomplete or something.
i am well aware of bug that messes things up but it just annoys me that i cant figure out what to do to have a chance to get something 'seeded'

i looked for an answer in FAQ and on forum as well but cant find it anywhere. i also checked tons of users with hundreds of 'seeded' torrents but cant find the common unique property for a torrent to be seeded.
it looks like seeded torrent can be even be 0 B uploaded, it also seems independent of ratio, upload, freeleech and so on. only variable that i thought that might have any influence is time but i cant compare it since it is not listed. when i stop seeding a torrent with ratio ~2.000 and like 10 GB uploaded it goes to Incomplete section. now i have no idea if thats bcos of bug or is the way it is supposed to be?

can some1 ease my mind and explain how to have, theoretically, a seeded torrent? what are requirements for a torrent to have a chance to be 'seeded'?

thank u all in advance and sorry if i double posted.

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Offline NELiXERY

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #1 on: July 03, 2010, 12:04:39 AM »
'Seeded' means it's reached a ratio of 1, according to the wiki. And I would've thought 'Incomplete' means you're downloading it but haven't downloaded all the data yet. That includes and samples, .nfo files, pretty much ALL the download files.

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #2 on: July 03, 2010, 12:06:59 AM »
as far as I can tell:

1) 100% downloaded (obviously)
  1a) that means 100% download from the BBT tracker
2) upload amount>downloaded amount

That's all I've got for you. However, some torrents in my incomplete section that are complete were stopped, due to improper client closings which mess with the tracker, at some point in the middle of downloading. Then there are the occasional glitches as you have already stated.

not downloading nfo's, sfv's, etc would also cause incomplete

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #3 on: July 03, 2010, 12:56:08 AM »
'Seeded' means it's reached a ratio of 1, according to the wiki. And I would've thought 'Incomplete' means you're downloading it but haven't downloaded all the data yet. That includes and samples, .nfo files, pretty much ALL the download files.

as far as I can tell:

1) 100% downloaded (obviously)
  1a) that means 100% download from the BBT tracker
2) upload amount>downloaded amount

That's all I've got for you. However, some torrents in my incomplete section that are complete were stopped, due to improper client closings which mess with the tracker, at some point in the middle of downloading. Then there are the occasional glitches as you have already stated.

not downloading nfo's, sfv's, etc would also cause incomplete


ofc i am talking only about whole torrents that are 100% complete (with nfos, sfvs and so on).
the thing is none of urs suggestion seems to fit cos:
i am seeding 50 torrents atm and i stoped them to see the outcome and
11 is seeded 34 incomplete and 5 leeched. i can try to explain leeched tag cos of low ratio but those in seeded category and incomplete seem to be exactly of same characteristic... for example:
seeded: Clannad (SS-Eclipse | h264)   151 / 14   4.05 GB   279 MB   0 KB   ∞0.1x
incomplete: Ai Yori Aoshi (KAA | h264)   10 / 0   5.38 GB   851 MB   0 KB   ∞0.2x

so as you can see it is not matter of ratio >= 1 nor 100% BBT down nor "upload amount>downloaded amount"
i rly dont get it... seems to me it is just random between seeded and incomplete. is this how the bug truly works?

i would very much appreciate some staff member to take part here.
once again i KNOW of a bug so i am asking theoretically about this
at the end id like to thank you all for posting @ my thread

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #4 on: July 03, 2010, 03:20:13 AM »
For a torrent to be classed as "Completed", you either have to have all of the files (100% hash check) or download the missing files from BakaBT. When the client reports the torrent as 100% complete, the torrent is classed as Completed.

However, as you know already, we have an ongoing bug that will incorrectly display torrents in the Incomplete, Leeching and/or Seeding section. It's a rather low priority fix since it isn't crucial to the working of the site.

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2010, 05:05:15 PM »
For a torrent to be classed as "Completed", you either have to have all of the files (100% hash check) or download the missing files from BakaBT. When the client reports the torrent as 100% complete, the torrent is classed as Completed.

However, as you know already, we have an ongoing bug that will incorrectly display torrents in the Incomplete, Leeching and/or Seeding section. It's a rather low priority fix since it isn't crucial to the working of the site.

so i guess there isnt even a theoretical chance for a torrent to get to seeded section? pure luck? ^^,
or are there some requirements put in site scripts? (the other thing is they dont work as they should)

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2010, 01:08:56 AM »
You can move it to the Seeding section by seeding it, but I doubt it will magically move to the Seeded section. They used to work, but after we implemented the new tracker, it borked.

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #7 on: July 04, 2010, 03:17:13 AM »
and thats what im doing :) seeding, over 50 torrent atm.
i didnt count on magic but it came to my mind that u did put some set of easy instructions like:
ratio >= 1 & uploaded >= 1.0x should make it seeded and analogical with other categories

just itches my brain not to know on what basis torrents (should) get seeded status or incomplete status.
as i wrote before i looked through maaaany statistics of maaany users and cant find common set of unique properties, whenever it seems i got scheme i find torrents in incomplete section that fit seeded according to what i thought of as well as the other way around.

i know its not the top priority matter but... thats what bugs do, they bug you ;p

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2010, 07:41:47 AM »
The rules are implemented as follows:
Seeded: completed: yes and upload >= download
Incomplete: completed: no
Leeched: completed: yes and upload < download

I don't see any unexplainable inconstancies with the data you reported.

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #9 on: July 04, 2010, 10:23:52 AM »
The rules are implemented as follows:
Seeded: completed: yes and upload >= download
Incomplete: completed: no
Leeched: completed: yes and upload < download

I don't see any unexplainable inconstancies with the data you reported.

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thank you Jarudin for an answer. the completed status means that i got 100% of files in torrent so there is no more to download?

Nogizaka Haruka no Himitsu [720p Blu-Ray][Coalgirls] 118 / 12   4.96 GB   16.92 GB      4.95 GB   3.417 3.4x
Bleach Jump Festa 2005- The Sealed Sword Frenzy      15 / 0    253 MB         0 KB   0 KB   ∞         0x
(are in incomplete when stopped and i understand should be in seeded)

Death Note (The Movie) [Mishicorp-SARS]                    4 / 0    699 MB         0 KB   0 KB   ∞         0x
The Twelve Kingdoms (Juuni Kokki) 01-45 MKV [Dual Audio] [AHQ] 21 / 4   9.99 GB   3.41 GB   283 MB   12.3520.3x
(are in seeded)

well both bleach here and death note got the same statistics and both are 100% complete torrents and both got upload (0) >= download (0). and as i look through torrents i stopped seeding that went to Incomplete section they all are 100% complete (all files from torrent are on my hdd hashchecked) and got up >= down meaning they should all get seeded status. correct me if im wrong.
is this how the 'known bug' works?

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2010, 06:32:55 AM »
I was under the impression that the known bug randomly categorizes your torrents with no identifiable pattern. So yes, I guess that's how the bug works, if I am correct on that.

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Re: Torrent requirements for 'seeded' staus [aware of bug]
« Reply #11 on: July 07, 2010, 03:23:16 AM »
I was under the impression that the known bug randomly categorizes your torrents with no identifiable pattern. So yes, I guess that's how the bug works, if I am correct on that.

my impression is exactly the same. and that what i wanted to know, maybe someone can confirm?