Author Topic: Correct color space for taking screenshots and watching?  (Read 534 times)

Offline jokli

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Correct color space for taking screenshots and watching?
« on: July 03, 2010, 06:19:12 PM »
I noticed that many decoders offer the choice to convert the color space from the given one to RGB for the output in their preferences.

My config:
  • OS: Windows XP SP3
  • Player environment: CCCP 2009-09-09
  • Graphics card: NVIDIA 7900GT
  • Decoder: CoreAVC 2.0
    • Input levels: Auto detect
    • Output levels: PC (0-255)
    • Deinterlacing: None (Weave)
    • Input Colorspace: Auto detect
    • Deblocking: Standard
    • The rest: Only "Preferred decoder" and "Tray icon" (I don't have a CUDA capable card) checked, all other unchecked
  • Renderer: VMR9 (renderless)
    • Surface: 3D surfaces (recommended)
    • Resizer: Bicubic A=-0.75 (PS 2.0) [shouldn't matter here]
    • D3D fullscreen: off
    • VMR9 mixer mode: on
    • Alternative VSync: off
    • YUV mixing: off
      After reading Microsoft's page on the YUV Mixing Mode I think turning YUV mixing on will only result in decreased quality, so I won't post screenshots for it turned on here.
      Info for the interested users: The "Same as"-comments remain the same after turning it on but all screenshots are slightly different compared to the versions with YUV mixing off; furthermore the RGB results are quite different, with the option on, they are much brighter.

I have tried most of the available color spaces separately on the file [UTW-THORA] Evangelion 2.22 - You Can (Not) Advance [BD][1080p,x264,DTS-ES][8B521921].mkv at the first frame of the scene @ 00:08.44 (frame 12567).
After setting the output color space in CoreAVC's settings, I restarted MPC HC and took the according screenshot.
Here are the results:

Color space
   Note
   Similar to the one before
   Similar to the one before
   Similar to the one before
UYVY
   Exactly the same as with YUY2
   Quite a difference compared to previous ones; stronger colors
RGB24
   Exactly the same as with RGB32

By calculating the CRC32 values of the YUY2/UYVY and RGB32/RGB24 results, I have seen they are exactly the same.

Which format shall I take when
  • taking screenshots?
  • watching the show on a usual RGB monitor?
Does the BakaBT staff prefer any combination of settings?

Naively I would guess that RGB(24+) is the appropriate choice because that's what my monitor is displaying. Am I right?

Furthermore the question arises whether one should choose PC (0-255) or TV (16-235).
Thank you very much for your help.
« Last Edit: July 03, 2010, 06:27:01 PM by jokli »