Probably a stupid question

[dalshien]

So I read the FAQ and the how to make an offer page, and I am probably reading too much into it which is why this is likely a stupid question.  However, after searching I cannot find anything that makes me feel like I have a good answer.

So there is a new series in Japan.  I have checked and its not blacklisted, not on the licensed list.   We're two episodes into the series.

The Do not upload page says "We only accept complete, Anime/manga-related Series/Movies/OVAs/printed materials."

If there is presently only 2 episode release, can I offer those two episodes and maybe update it as new episodes come out?

Just curious?

[Soryon]

simple answer, no.
you cant offer anything unless the whole of it is complete, so basically, if its still being aired or your waiting on new chapters then no, u cant UL here.

[daveLovesIt]

You could, however, spend time working out a template for the offer ahead of time, and do anything else that you can think of that will make your offer more attractive. That way you'll get to be ninja-fast when the series is finished, and can beat other uploaders to the punch

If you had the incentive, you could sub the episodes as they were released (if this is required) or whatever... if it's only two episodes in, then you'd even have time to learn how to do something like this even if you have never done it before.

Just a suggestion though, this sort of can be a lot of effort...

[dalshien]

Thanks for answer.

[Southrop]

How about giving us a name?

[fanofde4ever]

I'm gonna take a stab in the dark, and say Highschool of the Dead.

[Freedom Kira]

You could, however, spend time working out a template for the offer ahead of time, and do anything else that you can think of that will make your offer more attractive. That way you'll get to be ninja-fast when the series is finished, and can beat other uploaders to the punch

If you had the incentive, you could sub the episodes as they were released (if this is required) or whatever... if it's only two episodes in, then you'd even have time to learn how to do something like this even if you have never done it before.

Just a suggestion though, this sort of can be a lot of effort...

Have you offered before? There are pre-made templates available.

What matters in offers is not how fast you put it together, but how high the quality is in the end, both of the torrent page and the quality of the files. If you haven't noticed, offers are reviewed repeatedly and changes made if any are needed. Usually they aren't accepted for a few days.

[daveLovesIt]

So having extra time to work on these tasks won't allow him to produce a better offer? Thanks, I have been living my life believing that you can achieve more if you spend longer working on it. =p

Yeah, I know about templates and what makes one offer get accepted over the other. But I have no idea what this guys skill set is, or how much free time he has. I wasn't encouraging him to do it fast, I was suggesting he does the opposite and gets started ahead of time to produce something good. Even doing decent encoding can take a long time if you aren't yet familiar with any tools.

Oh, Dalshien I guess it's worth noting that someone else might put up a better offer than you, or a better one might come along five minutes after yours gets accepted, so it might be better only to take on a project if you feel you will enjoy it and/or learn something. Without knowing what the anime is, or what source files you plan to use, it's pretty hard to guess how much work it might be and how likely it is to be a "wasted" effort.

If it *is* High School of the Dead, then I'm know that at least a couple of groups have picked this up, so you could be comparing their fansubs/speedsubs and video quality as they get released, and of course working on a nice offer page. Yes, use a template, but take a look at the offers page and see what kinds of suggestions people make about those ones. People will generally be impressed if your first offer looks very attractive, includes all relevant information and you are also able to answer questions and give screenshots relating to the other alternative encodings that are available.

At the other end of the scale, if you want to take some TV rips and do all the processing/encoding, translation and subbing yourself... this will be a huge amount of work by comparison.

[dalshien]

Its Nurarihyon no Mago. Anime started airing this month.  :-)

[Freedom Kira]

So having extra time to work on these tasks won't allow him to produce a better offer? Thanks, I have been living my life believing that you can achieve more if you spend longer working on it. =p

Not necessarily in this case, unless you (er, he) can whip up a really nice looking page, which requires extensive BBCode knowledge. Otherwise, going with a default template is perfectly fine. And no matter how nice the page looks, only the best quality encodes are accepted.

Yeah, I know about templates and what makes one offer get accepted over the other. But I have no idea what this guys skill set is, or how much free time he has. I wasn't encouraging him to do it fast, I was suggesting he does the opposite and gets started ahead of time to produce something good. Even doing decent encoding can take a long time if you aren't yet familiar with any tools.

You somehow seem to be under the impression that OP plans to rip, sub, and encode the show. Nowhere did he say he wanted to do that. Forgive me if this is incorrect.

As for doing it fast...

That way you'll get to be ninja-fast when the series is finished, and can beat other uploaders to the punch

... kind of gave me that impression.

At the other end of the scale, if you want to take some TV rips and do all the processing/encoding, translation and subbing yourself... this will be a huge amount of work by comparison.

I also suspect that is a waste of time, unless he is actually already doing that, as he seems to have stuff to offer already.

[Soryon]

Its Nurarihyon no Mago. Anime started airing this month.  :-)

not sure if u read the Wiki, but if it only started airing this month, why would u think its ready to get uploaded here?

[Takeshi]

That way you'll get to be ninja-fast when the series is finished, and can beat other uploaders to the punch

Though in some cases it won't matter.
I still remember blubart beating me to at least two shows with their 720p release. and I was pretty fast myself.

It doesn't look like a high-profile show, but that can change and then more people will want to upload it.

[dalshien]

not sure if u Read the Wiki, but if it only started airing this month, why would u think its ready to get uploaded here?

I did read the Wiki, which prompted me to ask here because "Complete" can be open to a matter of interpretation.  As of today, the Series is Complete with 2 episodes released.. next week, it will be complete with 3 episodes. 

Clarified by original question: BakaBT defines complete as: "The Entire Series (by season or by entire release)" so posting the released two episodes and then adding in the new episodes as they release would not work.

Thats all I was trying to find out, and as I said, it was probably a stupid question because I pretty much knew the answer, I just wanted to find out if I might be wrong.

[Soryon]

not sure if u Read the Wiki, but if it only started airing this month, why would u think its ready to get uploaded here?

I did Read the Wiki, which prompted me to ask here because "Complete" can be open to a matter of interpretation.  As of today, the Series is Complete with 2 episodes released.. next week, it will be complete with 3 episodes.  

wut?
its not open to interpretation, complete means its done airing. end of story.

[blubart]

actually complete means not only completely aired but also completely subbed.
but no - i don't see any room for interpretation in that matter, at least not if you don't have an abnormal understanding of "complete".
just because you read the first page of a book ("completed it") you can't say you read the complete book.

[undetz]

Actually, dalshien's right.

"The entire release" CAN be interpreted as "every episode released so far".


Now, I know 2 subtitled episodes out of a series that's been announced to consist of 12 or 26 or whatever won't be accepted even if the third episode hasn't aired yet. But his interpretation is not wrong, it's just not usual.


So, yeah, the previously quoted statement in the Wiki may be slightly misleading. Maybe it would be better to put it as "The entire series (or an entire season of a series)"

[blubart]

"The entire release" CAN be interpreted as "every episode released so far".

the wiki isn't talking about "The entire release" but about accepting only "complete series". a series is either complete or incomplete - a series can't be complete "so far". there is no room for interpretation if you stick to what's actually written in the rules and not try to interpret your interpretation of the rules

[Freedom Kira]

"The entire release" CAN be interpreted as "every episode released so far".

the wiki isn't talking about "The entire release" but about accepting only "complete series". a series is either complete or incomplete - a series can't be complete "so far".

Exactly. If you insist on interpreting it that way, "incomplete" becomes an obsolete term because stuff is either "complete so far" or just plain "complete," so your so-called "complete so far" is coined the fancier term "incomplete." I haven't seen anyone with that particular misinterpretation of the statement.