Outside seeding?

[PandoraREM]

I'm new here, and I checked the rules, FAQ, and 'For First Timers' before posting, but couldn't find anything.
On the 'For first timers' page, it says that to fix your ratio if your account has been warned, you can download something off-site and seed it here. My account hasn't been warned, I'm still far in the green, but so far all of the things I've downloaded wont seed because there's no leechers, or wont be finished for a long time. My question is, are we allowed to seed an off-site torrent here to improve our ratio if our accounts haven't been warned?

Also, I here a lot about Stat-Hacking and not to do it. I'm not very computer savvy, so I've never actually heard this term before. Can someone tell me what it is, so I don't do it accidentally? (It may be impossible to do 'accidentally', but I just wanted to be safe).

Thanks in advance!

[Soryon]

My question is, are we allowed to seed an off-site torrent here to improve our ratio if our accounts haven't been warned?

only if the files match up with those on BBT. (obviously)
you dont need to DL them from here to seed them here.

[PandoraREM]

So, only if there's a corresponding torrent here? Thanks. 

[Soryon]

if you do that remember to switch to your private tracker after you finish the download. Otherwise BBT wont track your UL.

[PandoraREM]

Ahah, thanks, but... Private Tracker? What's the difference between that and public? Sorry, like I said, not very computer savvy.

[KyraMaverick]

Anything you download while logged in will have your private passkey attached to the torrent, to keep track of your stats. If you download something while not logged in, you get the public key which wont record stats for your account.

[PandoraREM]

Ah, thanks for clearing that up. 

[Freedom Kira]

Let's make sure you're not misunderstanding anything.

When you download a .torrent file while logged in, you will get a unique file with your unique passkey attached. This key lets your client communicate with the BBT tracker and send appropriate up/down data. This is the meaning of private. You don't have to be logged in to the site while the torrent is running.

If you download the same .torrent file while not logged in, you will get a file that has a public passkey attached. This key allows for you to download the torrent for the rest of the month. Since this is the public passkey, stats are not recorded on your account.

Now, if you are trying to "seed an off-site torrent here," you can't exactly do that because BBT doesn't host off-site torrents. If you tried to add the BBT tracker to any old torrent you have running, the tracker won't understand.

If you are trying to seed the files of an off-site torrent, though, as others have mentioned you have to find a corresponding torrent on BBT and seed that instead of the off-site one. There are no guarantees that you'll find one, though.

And it doesn't matter if you are warned or not, you can do that to boost your ratio from 0.05 to 5.00 or from 10.00 to 100.00, whatever.

For your second question, stat-hacking involves sending false data to the tracker using some third-party plugin or fake client. If you're using the official version of whatever you're using, i.e. downloaded from the main website of the client, you don't have to worry about this.

[Makotousaki]

I'll post in this thread because it's very similar to my question.

I joined BBT a few months back?-- and have been using it ever since. Only problem is I never read the rules and leeched forever. Now since I'm warned I want to make up for my idiocy. I want to "outside seed" but I'm not exactly sure how, after reading the faq and your posts, --- it seems like i have to find a torrent that's the exact same of BBT's torrent on another website? and seed that?

I'm sure this is no easy fix because my ratio is a stunning 0.004, but I'm willing to spend tons of time to make this up.

[Takeshi]

it seems like i have to find a torrent that's the exact same of BBT's torrent on another website? and seed that?

Not exactly, you don't have to find a "torrent" that has the exact same content, you can also find the files you need on xdcc bots or as ddl.

You could find a torrent where the content is available on BBT, leech it, but then you have to hash check it with a torrent you've downloaded from here, thus seeding to get rid of your warning. Good torrents would be THORA files since they're big. A few people here including myself have been releasing BakaBT torrents to TokyoTosho/NyaaTorrents for public leeching to bring more attention and traffic to BakaBT. Maybe grab those files when you see them?

Stuff get more easy here when you've become a Power User and can jump on new torrents. The only hard thing is to reach it which really isn't that hard anyway.

I personally contacted PFCorner, paid for the big Final Fantasy torrent (back then 40GB) to get seeded for the remainder of the year, and have since managed on my own. Mostly due to me offering so many torrents. I usually end up uploading 15GB on each depending on the size.

Good luck.

[Makotousaki]

it seems like i have to find a torrent that's the exact same of BBT's torrent on another website? and seed that?

You could find a torrent where the content is available on BBT, leech it, but then you have to hash check it with a torrent you've downloaded from here, thus seeding to get rid of your warning. Good torrents would be THORA files since they're big. A few people here including myself have been releasing BakaBT torrents to TokyoTosho/NyaaTorrents for public leeching to bring more attention and traffic to BakaBT. Maybe grab those files when you see them?


Good luck.

Thanks for the reply. I'm not much of an expert but what is "hash check"?

We also have to seed something we've downloaded from here?

[Blanchimont]

Thanks for the reply. I'm not much of an expert but what is "hash check"?

We also have to seed something we've downloaded from here?

If the folder you're downloading to already has at least some of the files in the .torrent, the client will be able to notice them with a hash check and count them as already downloaded. Most clients do this automatically, and you should be able to do it manually as well (Force Recheck).

Hash is the checksum of a file, basically a unique generated value for a given volume of data, and the torrent client uses it to recognize the pieces. So if some of those pieces are already present and give that specific hash, they will be counted.

Checksums are also important to verify files, so if some are corrupted, you will be able to recognize those.
With anime files the checksum used is mostly crc (as seen in the filenames), in other areas the old md5 is still widely used.

For file verification among the most popular applications are rapidcrc and HashTab, both integrate into the right-click menu, and HashTab also into Windows shell.

[Freedom Kira]

Dude, you're thinking too much.

All you have to do is pick a torrent, find and get the files however the heck you want (Limewire, Megaupload, other torrent sites, whatever), and then start seeding them here. The Wiki covers how to do the last part. Alternatively, you can look for torrents whose files you already have. As long as the files are exactly the same as listed on the torrent page, you can seed them. Generally, if you download the same format (codec) files from the same fansub group, you'll have the same files.