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Advice about buying monitors
erious:
I'll need to switch monitors too... Once I'll be able to find and afford anything that beats my 21", 2048 x 1536 max resolution CRT that I picked up couple years ago for about 100$.
Doesn't seem like the day will come anytime soon, though.
sdedalus83:
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--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on August 19, 2010, 03:29:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: xShadow on August 18, 2010, 10:05:49 PM ---Interesting. From the reviews, I'm guessing it has great picture quality. How good would it be for gaming, though? I'm just wondering how much those extra 6 ms mean when it comes to actual performance. Otherwise, if it's still good for gaming, I think you may have found what I'm looking for. It's just that none of the reviews for it (that I've looked at) have mentioned any gaming with it. There's some random programmer that says the text is crisp, which is nice, but I do more that lurk at forums. >_>;
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I'd much rather deal with the mild ghosting on an IPS panel than the input lag, poor color reproduction, poor viewing angles, and poor contrast of an excessively overdriven TN panel. That goes for everything from work to video to gaming.
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But the one you listed isn't an IPS, is it? From what I've searched on Newegg, they only have a handful of IPS monitors, and they're all quite highly priced. It says the one you listed is a TFT (I have no clue what that means, but yeah...).
Other than that, the contrast ratios on pretty much all of the monitors I've looked at so far seem to be 1000:1, which is the same as this one.
That leaves it with 1920x1200 and a brighter display, at the cost of an 8ms response time as a trade-off.
I'm actually still interested in it, I'm just wondering how that 8ms is going to affect my gaming experience.
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::) Sorry, it's a PVA panel, when Samsung stopped making PVA panels they switched to IPS and changed the model number to 2475. PVA has slight advantages with viewing angles and response times, while IPS has better color accuracy. The low price is due to the refurbished nature.
TFT - Thin Film Transistor
All modern LCD panels are TFT.
If you really want an IPS panel, and would prefer something both new and cheap, both Viewsonic and Dell make ~$300, 23", 1920x1080 IPS displays.
kureshii:
Dell's 22" IPS is at ~$260 now. You can get it much cheaper in Asia though ;) (It was going at 229SGD [~170USD] sometime back, after $50 discount.)
xShadow:
--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on August 20, 2010, 04:31:10 AM ---
--- Quote from: xShadow on August 19, 2010, 07:33:50 PM ---
--- Quote from: sdedalus83 on August 19, 2010, 03:29:51 AM ---
--- Quote from: xShadow on August 18, 2010, 10:05:49 PM ---Interesting. From the reviews, I'm guessing it has great picture quality. How good would it be for gaming, though? I'm just wondering how much those extra 6 ms mean when it comes to actual performance. Otherwise, if it's still good for gaming, I think you may have found what I'm looking for. It's just that none of the reviews for it (that I've looked at) have mentioned any gaming with it. There's some random programmer that says the text is crisp, which is nice, but I do more that lurk at forums. >_>;
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I'd much rather deal with the mild ghosting on an IPS panel than the input lag, poor color reproduction, poor viewing angles, and poor contrast of an excessively overdriven TN panel. That goes for everything from work to video to gaming.
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But the one you listed isn't an IPS, is it? From what I've searched on Newegg, they only have a handful of IPS monitors, and they're all quite highly priced. It says the one you listed is a TFT (I have no clue what that means, but yeah...).
Other than that, the contrast ratios on pretty much all of the monitors I've looked at so far seem to be 1000:1, which is the same as this one.
That leaves it with 1920x1200 and a brighter display, at the cost of an 8ms response time as a trade-off.
I'm actually still interested in it, I'm just wondering how that 8ms is going to affect my gaming experience.
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::) Sorry, it's a PVA panel, when Samsung stopped making PVA panels they switched to IPS and changed the model number to 2475. PVA has slight advantages with viewing angles and response times, while IPS has better color accuracy. The low price is due to the refurbished nature.
TFT - Thin Film Transistor
All modern LCD panels are TFT.
If you really want an IPS panel, and would prefer something both new and cheap, both Viewsonic and Dell make ~$300, 23", 1920x1080 IPS displays.
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Yeah, I read about that like right after I made that post, but I didn't bother editing it. I know... it looks dumb. But I'm a complete newb in this arena. >_>
Anyway, from how some of the suggestions went, I should be getting a 1920x1200 if I plan on gaming, so that's why I listed such an expensive monitor. I've been noticing more and more that 1920x1200 seems to be rare as hell to come across (not to mention quite expensive), so I might indeed have to settle in for a 1920x1080.
Anyway, I'm not looking for an IPS monitor specifically. I just said I'm looking for something that has good color accuracy and good gaming capabilities (not exceptional in either one). If there's another monitor type that has that, it doesn't have to be IPS; I just need those two qualities in it.
My question to you is how pissed you would be if that monitor came in with nothing but a few dead pixels. >_>;
On a side note, since I couldn't find any specific return policy notes on their site for monitors, I started wondering where we got this "8 or more stuck pixels=replacement" version of Newegg's monitor return policy, so I just went ahead and decided to speak with one of their customer service people. Record of the conversation (I replaced my name with "Me"):
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--- Quote from: Chat --- 9:04:41 AM : Connected with Lindsey. Your reference number for this chat session is 1769956.
9:04:41 AM : Hello my name is Lindsey. How may I help you today?
9:04:57 AM : Me: Hi
9:05:09 AM : Lindsey: Hi Me.
9:05:14 AM : Me: I have some questions about your return policy regarding monitors
9:05:30 AM : Me: Mainly, about dead pixels
9:05:42 AM : Me: how many dead pixels warrants a replacement
9:07:01 AM : Lindsey: I would be glad to assist you with that... if there is one dead pixels, we will still honor the replacement 30-day warranty.
9:07:30 AM : Me: So, if there's even one dead pixel, I can get a replacement?
9:08:03 AM : Lindsey: Yes, that is correct.
9:08:11 AM : Me: How about stuck pixels?
9:08:56 AM : Lindsey: It is the same.
9:09:29 AM : Me: Is the policy the same for a recertified monitor?
9:09:35 AM : Me: Or is it only new ones
9:10:11 AM : Lindsey: It is for all the type of monitors.
9:10:24 AM : Me: Alright, that's all I wanted to ask.
9:10:28 AM : Me: Thank you for your assistance.
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Apparently you can get a replacement for a monitor if it has even one stuck pixel. I'm not sure if this change is recent or not, but it looks it's actually quite favorable to order from Newegg again! I might be getting that monitor you're looking at, sdedalus. It has the resolution I want, and a decent response time. Of course, it has a much higher chance of being DOA (read the reviews lol), but I might take my chances.
sdedalus83:
--- Quote from: xShadow on August 20, 2010, 12:21:02 PM ---Apparently you can get a replacement for a monitor if it has even one stuck pixel. I'm not sure if this change is recent or not, but it looks it's actually quite favorable to order from Newegg again! I might be getting that monitor you're looking at, sdedalus. It has the resolution I want, and a decent response time. Of course, it has a much higher chance of being DOA (read the reviews lol), but I might take my chances.
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Just make sure to get the extended warranty.
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