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Seagate..the 2nd shittiest HDD manufacturer.
Lupin:
Never had any problems with seagate drives. I'm still using several seagate drives that are over 5 years old and still working well (no errors whatsoever other than the normal ECC errors)
I recently purchased a couple of 500 GB seagate drives and so far I have no issues.
One thing common between all these seagate drives I have is that they're local purchases, not ordered online. I do not trust shipping companies to handle such hardware with care. Plus it's cheaper for me to buy them locally by about 10-20% since tax is already included in the local prices.
--- Quote from: x5ga on August 26, 2010, 08:51:54 AM ---I have a Seagate 1TB external desktop drive, it started giving I/O errors after about 1 month after i bought it. Searched around for their support forums for ideas. Reformatted the drive (lost 1TB of anime) using a 64kb cluster size this time (it was the default 4k at first). Drive worked perfectly for another month, then failed agan: I/O error. Reformatted again (lost another TB of anime) using exFAT instead of NTFS and a ginormous 256kb cluster size. Reallocated sector count: 9208. Drive works now, but stutters on reading some of the files. Seagate disks suck ass. Never had a problem with the rest of my hard disks, which are all WD, one of them being from more than 5 years ago and I've been seeding torrents off it since then 24/7. Western Digital makes the best disks.
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How do you handle the drive? Unlike internal drives, externals are exposed to the harsh environment called your desktop where it can be dropped or kicked around or disconnected while still in use. Just because it's external doesn't mean it's portable. I have seen people treat their external drives like portable ones, handling them without any care. I have 2 1.5 TB external seagate drives. None of them having issues. Both are placed in a location where the chances of getting kicked around or falling are very slim. Both are unpowered when not in use.
Internal drives, while protected inside the case aren't immune to shock either. If your case gets kicked while it's still running, you drive heads might fly above/below it's operating height. A drive operating at an inclined position doesn't help either.
Over the years, I've only have three drives die on me. All three died by user error: 1 20GB samsung drive due to head crash, and 2 40GB maxtor drives due blown circuit boards after I used the wrong power bricks. In all three drives, I was able to recover my data.
x5ga:
my external drive sits in a well-ventilated place where nothing can fall on it, I don't carry it around with me, and I most certainly don't kick it :) Also, as far as I can tell this particular seagate external drive that I have is basically a 1TB "internal" SATA drive in an "external" case with a SATA-to-USB adapter fitted on it. Its power supply is probably shitty, it's made by an unknown (to me) company situated in China.
I've had a few maxtor drives also about 6 or 7 years ago, all died randomly. I love it that when the maxtors died, the BIOS showed their codename instead of their model/number (I remember one of them being ATHENA). Easiest way to know that you can throw away your HDD, you don't even have to wait for the OS to give you errors, no software solution (at that time) could mend this, even though a lot of them expressly specified that they can.
boxer4:
Every manufacturer has their bad batches. If I were to stop using any brand that I get any failed disk (or even 1 bad sector) from, I'd quickly run out of disks to buy... Disks will fail, just be prepared for it.
I've had failed/bad sectored/flaky seagates, hitachi/IBM, WD's, fujitsu's, ... right now I'd be down to Samsungs (because I've only had 2 ever) but... no, I'm not always going for slow Samsungs.
I've had several failed seagates in the past.. but I still prefer seagate over other brands, but most of the time, hard disks are a commodity for me, and pretty much doesn't matter what brand it is.
x5ga:
Every manufacturer has bad batches, yes, but seagate not only has bad HDD batches, it has bad HDD models. Look at the tech support section of their site and there are literally hundreds of people complaining about the 1TB and the 1.5TB external desktop drives because they failed with no apparent reason.
mgz:
--- Quote from: x5ga on August 26, 2010, 01:58:07 PM ---Every manufacturer has bad batches, yes, but seagate not only has bad HDD batches, it has bad HDD models. Look at the tech support section of their site and there are literally hundreds of people complaining about the 1TB and the 1.5TB external desktop drives because they failed with no apparent reason.
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yea because those shitty external drives are the same low end piece of shit drives that are 30 or 40$ for seemingly the same thing when you buy the internal drive, with 1$ worth of plastic and shit to power it.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%2050001306%20600003269%20600003298%20600003459%20600003340&IsNodeId=1&name=7200%20RPM
for shits and giggles if that shows up it should let you compare and go straight down the list for more or less the "same drive" there becomes higher percentages of 5 star reviews for WD
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&N=100007603%2050001305%20600003340%20600003459%20600003269%20600003298&IsNodeId=1&name=1TB
more or less same thing but seagate, 1tb drives 32mb cache 7200rpm the cheapest ones = shitty shit shit.
Now granted the difference in quality may be more varied from manufacturer to manufacturer but its pretty obvious if you spend 10 or 20$ more on your drives that there is FAR LESS failures, or at least thats what i have always noticed and reviews kinda support that.
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