Seagate..the 2nd shittiest HDD manufacturer.

[fohfoh]

Or try the freezer trick.

[TorturdChaos]

Points I was trying to make:

 - WD Caviar Black editions right now seem to be about as reliable a HD as any.

I have to agree.  If WD is willing to put a 5 year warranty on their Caviar Black edition HDD's while only a 3 yr on their Blue edition's, that tells me something.

I have 2 1TB WD Caviar Black HDD's right now, one of which is about 1yr 1/2 old.  I have had no troubles with it at all (knocks on wood).

[trexx]

I've only ever used Western Digital hard drives and none have ever broken on me.
The closest I've been was when my WD My Book wouldn't work if its sitting horizontally but would work fine when standing vertically.
I backed up my data as fast as Firewire 800 allowed me too.

[Lutador]

I've only ever used Western Digital hard drives and none have ever broken on me.
The closest I've been was when my WD My Book wouldn't work if its sitting horizontally but would work fine when standing vertically.
I backed up my data as fast as Firewire 800 allowed me too.

I got my new storage drive yesterday. A 2TB WD Green disk.
Was looking forward to startin it up and start filling it up with stuff.

Connected it, started up the comp and nothing.... *sigh* it was fuc*in DOA.

[Proin Drakenzol]

I've only ever used Western Digital hard drives and none have ever broken on me.
The closest I've been was when my WD My Book wouldn't work if its sitting horizontally but would work fine when standing vertically.
I backed up my data as fast as Firewire 800 allowed me too.

I got my new storage drive yesterday. A 2TB WD Green disk.
Was looking forward to startin it up and start filling it up with stuff.

Connected it, started up the comp and nothing.... *sigh* it was fuc*in DOA.

Are you sure? The last couple of disks I've gotten were completely raw. If you're using Windows you need to go into "Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management" and create the drive.

[Lutador]

I've only ever used Western Digital hard drives and none have ever broken on me.
The closest I've been was when my WD My Book wouldn't work if its sitting horizontally but would work fine when standing vertically.
I backed up my data as fast as Firewire 800 allowed me too.

I got my new storage drive yesterday. A 2TB WD Green disk.
Was looking forward to startin it up and start filling it up with stuff.

Connected it, started up the comp and nothing.... *sigh* it was fuc*in DOA.

Are you sure? The last couple of disks I've gotten were completely raw. If you're using Windows you need to go into "Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management" and create the drive.

Trust me when I say that I have checked.
I was meticulous to say the least.

[Irkan]

Must admit that my only experience with Seagate is to hit them with hammers, but that's what you get when working with electronics recycling. Quite fond of them, as they were among the easier to dent, if I remember correctly. (It's been a couple of years since I quit.)

I've had a LaCie something brand for around two years now, it's been kicked around, transported in bags on planes and generally been subjected to more casual abuse than I'm comfortable with and it's still working perfectly. Of course, I've happened to take apart the model of LaCie I have, and damn, that's a lot of steel wrapped around the thing. Also have a WD I got maybe half a year after the laCie, which has been through most of the same things. No problems with it, either. Got a new LaCie of a different make a couple of months ago, and it's now going through a lot of the same trauma as the other two, so it'll be interesting to see how that works out.

[trexx]

I've only ever used Western Digital hard drives and none have ever broken on me.
The closest I've been was when my WD My Book wouldn't work if its sitting horizontally but would work fine when standing vertically.
I backed up my data as fast as Firewire 800 allowed me too.

I got my new storage drive yesterday. A 2TB WD Green disk.
Was looking forward to startin it up and start filling it up with stuff.

Connected it, started up the comp and nothing.... *sigh* it was fuc*in DOA.

Are you sure? The last couple of disks I've gotten were completely raw. If you're using Windows you need to go into "Control Panel > Administrative Tools > Computer Management > Storage > Disk Management" and create the drive.

Trust me when I say that I have checked.
I was meticulous to say the least.

Sucks to hear that happen. I'd blame the retailer that sold it to me though. I have 3 of those 2TB Green drives. *knock-on-wood* No problems yet.

BTW What's the 1st shittiest HDD manufacturer? IBM? Those Deathstars?

[rheffera]

hey guys..the drive i posted about in my orginal post now has 31 Reallocated Sectors and its saying something about 19 uncorrectable errors

the drive is FAILING its Short and Long diagnostic tests.

This drive is only seen 300 hours service life...what a joke

Im gonna buy me a WD and backup my anime while i can

[datora]

.
Welllll ...  One of the best $$s/GB ratio right now (factoring in the apparent reliability of a WD Black Caviar) is this one, for the next couple of days:

 - http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136592

Free shipping & the promo code EMCYXNW32 will bring it to $100 for 1.5 TB.  Thing is, I've noticed a slight uptick in HD prices since this thread began ... or, at least, much fewer specials to bring prices down.  Note the 64 MB cache ... a nice performance booster, even though it's still "only" a SATA 3 GB/sec.

There was a deal at newegg last week for an Hitachi 2TB for $100; didn't look into it enough to determine if I'd trust it, but looked interesting enough to investigate if I needed drives right now.  Did my purchasing back when I last posted to this topic: two 750 GB WD Caviar black and a 1.5 TB Caviar Blue.

*knocks wood* they are all formatted and running fine now for several weeks.  All are running cool and quiet, can't hearthem through my case even when transferring 100 GB directories stuffed with several thousand small files.  Wrote every drive completely full, then did zero-writes across them all in the first days received as a burn-in, then did a final re-format and put them into use.  Tried to use every feature available through the WD diagnostics utils & the Acronis software.

One of the Blacks was used to mirror my operating system.  I was installed on an 80 GB PATA drive and mirrored it onto the 750 GB SATA ... got a LOT of extra space (for running my torrents!  ) and a really nice performance boost.  The other two drives are used for storage ... about 600 GB of anime and movies and another ~400 GB of music (mostly in flac).

[rostheferret]

There was a deal at newegg last week for an Hitachi 2TB for $100; didn't look into it enough to determine if I'd trust it, but looked interesting enough to investigate if I needed drives right now. 

I'd be cautious. I got the Hitachi Deskstar and whilst it's working fine now, had a wobbly start; I think they've kinda pushed its capabilities a little too hard. Mine kept creating orphaned files for data in the first 20% or so of the outside track. It's easily fixed and non-serious but worth bearing in mind.

[MrSparkle]

Getting really shoddy performance from the advanced RMA WD 1TB black, have to wonder if something is not also wrong with this one. Either junk speeds (max < 30 MB/s, average 4 MB/s) overall like I am getting tonight, or full speeds for a second or 2 then almost nothing, then back up. This one is also significantly cooler then the old one, not that either of these make great controls or I'm in any lab setting. I'm cruising 90% and downloaded a GB just a minute ago, a 2TB would be nice once this drive gets ironed out...

Not too topic relevent, but getting xp on the new ssd was a bust, something somewhere insists on writing 2-3GB a day, despite disabling system restore and all that jazz. I put linux and gparted on it for an expensive but quick to boot gparted live cd that I can still listen to music with...

[rostheferret]

Make sure its connected properly? Sounds like there might be a loose wire or dirt or something on the connection, particularly if its an internal drive. If its not getting the power, it can't spin as fast as it should and you'd get your crappy transfer speeds as a result.

[zzizzy]

Have you heard about their new warranty policy? The HDD must be INTACT (not even a scratch or damaged screw!) which I think is IMPOSSIBLE for the return to be granted.

Looks like they had had too many returns and decided to cut costs by introducing ridiculous warranty terms.

[Pentium100]

If its not getting the power, it can't spin as fast as it should and you'd get your crappy transfer speeds as a result.

In that case the drive would not be spinning at all. It's not like a tape deck with low batteries. The drive either spins up to the required speed or it doesn't.

Slow transfer speeds may be because of retries and reallocated sectors. If the drive has to read a sector twice to read it without errors, then the transfer speed will be slow. Also, if a lot of sectors are reallocated, the drive will need to seek to the new sector and read it, also reducing transfer speeds.

Bad data cable can reduce speeds (because the drive attempts to send the data a few times or send it slower) and introduce read/write errors, which then appear as bad sectors.

[MrSparkle]

Without doing anything, I'm back to full speed / no speed toggling. I'll play around with cables and all that this weekend or so. This has been going on since I got it, but it IS the only drive I have not disconnected etc since then. Thanks for the input!

2.5" drives on desktops is really taking off (at least with ssd), so I have been wondering up to what capacity are 2.5" hdds cheaper due to less metal and the like. Seems like a 2.5" using a single platter should be cheaper then a 3.5" with 5/6th of a platter disabled. After 2 minutes of 'research', 160 GB will indeed be cheaper with 2.5", and it draws less power / noise to boot! 320 GB and you are looking at $5 difference. Morel of the rambling story, theres a few dollars I can save when I build my father's computer.

How many parents need 4 GB more then the OS?

[temuchin]

honestly i recommend Western Digital.   never had one of those go south.

[Tatsujin]

I hate to say this but i have had so many problems with seagate drives.

2 drives in a row that were DOA.

But i gave them the benefiet of the doubt that i was just having bad luck. Now this.

Seagate 1.5TB, ST31500341AS..Firmw are: CC1H

Problem?

7 reallocated sectors in only 287 hrs of power-on hours. Will seagate take it back?

The only company worse is samsungs 2.5" drives..bought one brand new, died within a month, the replacment did the same, and the replacement for the replacement did the same thing. Samsung's 3.5" are ok though.

What are other peoples experiences like?

Piece of shit HDDs. Worst of the worst.

Go Western Digital. They'll ease your mind ...

[Razorflame]

I bought a 1TD HDD by Seagate about half a year ago, and I've been using it ever since without any problems other than the occasional hiccup in retrieval of information, but I attribute that to normal behavior.

Cheers!

[Tatsujin]

hey guys..the drive i posted about in my orginal post now has 31 Reallocated Sectors and its saying something about 19 uncorrectable errors

the drive is FAILING its Short and Long diagnostic tests.

This drive is only seen 300 hours service life...what a joke

Im gonna buy me a WD and backup my anime while i can

For Anime, I suggest to get Western Digital Note Books or WD Elements.

About Green WD HDDs, I don't know so much about those. I relay on Black editions. They're safer.

Edit -- I recommend the following:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136505

This is what I'm using. I have four of them:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136395

Been running for close to 2 years now.

Internals, this is the best one I can recommend:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136284 (I want ... 2 of them ...)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136533 (2 more dollars for better specs)

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136456 (I want 2 of those.... lol)

But that's about it. The greens are "ok" to have. I just don't trust them. I don't know about the other versions, but I can tell you the black versions (black edition, elements, note books) I highly recommend.