Author Topic: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?  (Read 949 times)

Offline flynn

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Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« on: August 30, 2010, 07:32:22 PM »
hey!
So, I recently installed a game (Turok 2008) It was shit, and broken... so i uninstalled.

Great! But wait.... im left with this issue >_>



Its only noticable when playing games at like 50fps+ but it happens rapidly, like soon as you run it, and all over the screen, everywhere!!
untill you 'refresh' the pixel area manualy by moving the object off the screen,
or just outright crashes the OS into BSOD error - nv4_disp.dll.

Cool, broken drivers...
 *uninstalls, updates, same, uninstalls, cleans all drivers and registery, updates, same...., uninstalls, uses a driver sweeping tool, installs... same... >.>

*does the same with physx and DirectX* no luck... >.>

I dont know what this graphical artifact error is so cant look in the right direction for soloutions .. any ideas what its called?!

GTX 460
Core i7
WinXP
4gb RAM
3tb western digital greens

This realy seems like a driver issue but I cant work it out,
Im about to go SLI with 2 gtx460... but this has kinda stalled it.
Everything worked fine before so what the frack ?!

Its gonna be a clean install at this rate !! =/

I tried everythink im thinking of, making sure its all set up right, same refresh rate, system restore ect ect... but meh >.<!

Thanks !!

I posted on the nvidia forums but more opinon = faster/ quicker ;p


Offline bloody000

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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #1 on: August 31, 2010, 05:57:53 AM »
overheating or defective card. RMA it ASAP.
All you have to do is study it out. Just study it out.

Offline flynn

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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #2 on: September 01, 2010, 10:25:34 AM »
Woah woah easy there tiger!!

Thanks for your reply,

But I strapped in my old hdd and it runs everything fine so I don't think hardware is at fault.

It has to be driver related, nvidia your unstaller sucks!! Ahaha

Its like trying to remove a root-kit xddd

*goes back to tinkering... sigh*

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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #3 on: September 01, 2010, 10:45:29 AM »
maybe when you change hdd's gpu wasn't hot like it was before?
Try to check temperature in any case
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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #4 on: September 01, 2010, 11:16:37 AM »
It's most likely video memory corruption caused by overheating since it only starts to occur when you play games.
Those graphic intensive games makes your card overheat thus causing those artifacts.

Check the temperature of your card when you run those games.
It's good to clean off dust from the graphic card periodically so that the graphic card can be properly ventilated

Offline daveLovesIt

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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #5 on: September 01, 2010, 11:17:15 AM »
Tribbles, anyone?

So, I recently installed a game (Turok 2008) It was shit, and broken... so i uninstalled.
I'm guessing... not a legitimate copy? It's strange to think of a 2008 game causing such issues with display drivers.

Of course, a failing card sprung to mind:
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But I strapped in my old hdd and it runs everything fine so I don't think hardware is at fault.
But this was a somewhat definitive test.

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Its only noticable when playing games at like 50fps+ but it happens rapidly, like soon as you run it, and all over the screen, everywhere!!
Windows Task Manager is a 50fps+ game? Pleases clarify what it is happening and what you are doing when you can see the glitch. Does it occur when you launch a game, are these object moving, do they stop spawning after you move objects around etc...

They look a bit like XORed blocks, or some other such transformation. It seems like a broken or trojaned driver is at fault. I would try booting in safe-mode (if Win still has this) and running any driver diagnostics and spyware cleaners that you have on hand again, or at least those which work in safe-mode. Also, can you generate these artifacts in that mode or not?

Good luck!

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maybe when you change hdd's gpu wasn't hot like it was before?
I was assuming you have the same version of windows on both HDDs, but I suppose it could be an issue with a windows component on the newer one which is not present on the old one. In terms of heat, well try to make sure this issue occurs even when you know the card is cooled properly, eg cold boot, case open, I'm holding a fan over the card etc... this sort of thing is easier or harder to test depending on what other components you have available, eg trying your card/hdd in another system etc.

PS - if nv4_disp.dll is causing a BSOD, I would focus on that. In terms of this crash, I guess overheating could cause this problem, but so could a software fault, and is somewhat more likely, given that you seem to be quite sure these issues magically appeared when installing the game.

EDIT (AGAIN) - A really good test for you is to install a fresh windows on your old HDD if you don't need the data from it. Install some of the games which have the problem. This will save you doing a proper reinstall on your new disk only to find out that your card needs replacing. After running off that for a couple of hours you can be certain either way whether hardware or software is the issue.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2010, 11:29:21 AM by daveLovesIt »

Offline flynn

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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #6 on: September 01, 2010, 12:22:18 PM »
Okay!!

Power of the mind has come through as always, and when I replaced my new HDD (pre-existing) and booted up,
everything has gone back to being fine.... @_@! :D

maybe when you change hdd's gpu wasn't hot like it was before?
Try to check temperature in any case
It's most likely video memory corruption caused by overheating since it only starts to occur when you play games.
Those graphic intensive games makes your card overheat thus causing those artifacts.

Check the temperature of your card when you run those games.
It's good to clean off dust from the graphic card periodically so that the graphic card can be properly ventilated

Maybe was this, but I always have RealTemp running,
alongside VTune app that comes with Nvidia pack that operates the dynamic fan speed of the gfx card (@40, idles 30)
and always know the temps of cpu and gpu which run at 60~ on max load respectivley, (and is realy hard to achieve ;p)
because I built and designed my rig on cooling with max flow.

Tribbles, anyone?
More Tribbles, More Trouble ?? XD

Anyways!

We seem to be back on track now, I've done breif max load testing and everything looks okay... Yazoo !!

Thanks for everyones input and helping share ideas and getting this resolved, loveyou baka community  d.(^_^)b

*buys second gtx460 SLI SLI SLI SLI mmm mm :D*

 

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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #7 on: September 02, 2010, 06:00:38 AM »
Get GPU-Z and run Unigine Heaven Benchmark(or FurMark if you hate your card) in windowed mode. Your screenshot was a textbook example of video memory corruption. I know you think I'm being pessimistic but your tests were wholly inadequate.
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Re: Broken... Something?! gfx issue what the frack?
« Reply #8 on: September 04, 2010, 06:22:38 PM »
That looks bad, normally it should go away after a re-boot, always manually crank up your gfx card fan speed to something like 80-85% regardless of the noise.
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