Bonus Torrents that cease to be bonus?

[godfan]

I downloaded Redrum and Suicide Club the other day after seeing they were bonus torrents.  I was hoping to earn up more on bonus points you see, since I've been unable to find torrents I want and I lost my older computer which used to seed a lot of stuff.

But strangely, after adding them and downloading them, they now no longer appear to be bonus torrents.  This irks me cause they don't seem to be as actively downloaded, but now they're affecting my ratio too.

Is there a way to know if a torrent will remain Bonus for long or are bonus torrents being converted to normal ones once a number of seeders is reached?

EDIT:
I'm aware of this:
"The trick to this is to keep those torrents going, the bonus status may drop depending on the number and ratio of seeders, but as they say, a watched pot never boils. Pick about 10-12 of these seeder-starved torrents, and just keep them going for as long as possible. Don't pick too many (unless you're a seeder who likes to keep these torrents seeded, which is a different story), otherwise you might spend too much bandwidth on bittorrent protocol overhead."
I was wondering if there's a formula/announcement page that I best check in the future to determine if a bonus download needs more seeders and will stay in bonus mode or not.

[Mirgond]

In short: no

[Xiong Chiamiov]

Is there a way to know if a torrent will remain Bonus for long

Yes, but not for you as a normal user.  More on that in a moment.

or are bonus torrents being converted to normal ones once a number of seeders is reached?

It's not just number of seeders - number of leechers is taken into account as well.  We don't publish the exact numbers because they change from time to time, so you just have to look at which torrents are bonus and which aren't and make educated guesses.

[godfan]

I see.   Well, I'll just leave the two recent downloads seeding then til they hit the required ratio.  I was hoping to build up again on Bonus points though.  Its hard to keep one's ratio up when the kind of anime I prefer ain't usually the ones sought by many.

[Southrop]

Try something freeleech on this page: http://bakabt.me/browse.php?ordertype=leechers

[Takeshi]

What you can do is download and seed 30-50 of those bonus torrents starting with the lowest sized ones. Then you're almost certain to have at least 10 bonus points each hour. I worked up 2000 or something by doing that.

[Southrop]

Bonus points are a rather inefficient way of increasing your ratio.

[Freedom Kira]

Still a good supplement though. I get an additional 10GB per month or so. If I seeded more, I'd probably get 10GB per week or so, which is a lot more than I would get just seeding normally because of my bandwidth limits.

That's just me though.

[godfan]

Yea in my case its to supplement only.
Most recent anime I buy the original releases you see.
I've only downloaded stuff I can't find yet.

So the bonus points help balance things out for me.

Thanks for the suggestions all!

[godfan]

Very strange.
I downloaded SIX torrents, all listed as Bonus, and some listed as Freeleech AND Bonus.
I have left them seeding for days now.

Strangely, most lost their Bonus status, which I've pretty much decided to just accept.
However, of the last few days, I've only seen a 3 point increase in my total Bonus points.
I thought we get 1 bonus point per hour at least?

Or am I misunderstanding the rules?

[surdumil]

Days?  Wrong time frame.
Think weeks, maybe months depending on the torrent's seed/leech ratio.  That ratio will vary constantly, unless there simply are no leechers.

Six torrents?  Wrong scale.
Think ten, twenty, thirty, more torrents to increase the likelihood of some of your torrents becoming bonus torrents.  For most torrents that I've been watching, the number of seeders changes over the course of a 24 hour period.  The number of leechers usually changes much more rapidly.  There are a few torrents that are reliably bonus torrents, but that changes quickly as the torrent's luck/attraction varies.  (hint: with no leeches, bonus will often be up to about 4 seeders right now.  Mileage may vary.  So will that value)

Bonus?  This is meant to provide slight encouragement to seeders to support more rare, less popular torrents that usually have infrequent leeches and low seeder populations.  Bonus encourages at least a minimum number of seeders for these torrents, and encourages seeders to spread their support to a number of these less popular torrents.  A torrent's bonus status is adjusted hourly, based on the torrent's seed/leech ratio or number of seeders (if there are no leechers).

Bonus points are a nifty diversion for folks who are interested in less popular, rare, experimental, and eclectic anime and manga.  If you manage to seed ten bonus torrents for a few hours, it's amazing how quickly your totals increase.  Unless you seed a vast number of torrents, achieving that kind of production is very difficult.  Check out the top ten bonus point earners.  They're heroes for supporting rare torrents!

To efficiently increase in your ul:dl ratio:

0. Read the Wiki.  Study it.  There's gold in thar!
1. Improve your upload speed or hire a seedbox (faster seeders send more packets to leechers)
2. Do the logged-out download/logged-in seeding trick (zero recorded leech, all recorded seed)
3. Download and seed freeleech torrents (zero recorded leech, all recorded seed)
4. Regularly participate in initial leech/seed swarms for freshly-approved torrents (full recorded leech, but many seed opportunities)
5. Upload new content (zero leech, all recorded seed).  There aren't many regular uploaders.  The torrent offer process is careful and stringent, and requires some care and effort.  When the torrent is approved, your upload rate will vary depending on competing seeder data rates.  Faster seeders attract more packet transfer.

That's how this game is played, mate.

[godfan]

Wow... great ideas there.
And here I was thinking six downloads were already a lot. :-))

I am wondering though is #2 legal?

[Southrop]

Wow... great ideas there.
And here I was thinking six downloads were already a lot. :-))

I am wondering though is #2 legal?

Yes it is. BakaBT is a public tracker.

[Freedom Kira]

Not that it's encouraged, though.