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Offline kitamesume

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3220 on: January 31, 2012, 06:28:09 PM »
question, what kind of game is DE:HR? open world(similar to stalker or fallout)? or story mode(fix path like metro2033 or rage)?

open world pisses me off, the story is inconsistent and it takes too damn long to finish the whole game.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3221 on: January 31, 2012, 06:34:59 PM »
question, what kind of game is DE:HR? open world(similar to stalker or fallout)? or story mode(fix path like metro2033 or rage)?

open world pisses me off, the story is inconsistent and it takes too damn long to finish the whole game.

Somewhere in between. It's not really open-world, the levels are expansive - the idea being that they provide plenty of room to approach your objectives in whatever way you like. Several of them also act sort of like hubs, where you have several objectives you can approach in any order you like, and there are sidequests etc to do. The game progresses pretty linearly though, it's completely story driven, and the story is definitely not inconsistent. If you haven't played it yet, I highly recommend it; it's quite possibly the best game I played in 2011.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3222 on: January 31, 2012, 06:46:50 PM »
I wouldn't go as far as best of 2011, but it's fairly good visually.

I would even go as far as say that DE:HR plays out in a world very similar to Final Fantasy VII environment (technologically advanced and mood over the city is similar to Midgard Slums, I haven't been able to see the sky so far so you get my drift and there is a strong presence of a corporation.) as expected from Square-Enix department who were very into FF7 production. The best and most challenging yet very satisfactory approach to complete missions is stealth, both hacking and silent combat are probably the most rewarding. if you can disable all enemies without killing them you even get a bonus. Even though I was able to kill with a stun gun (single shot killed one of the thugs early in the game)

Biggest challenge is the inventory, but probably the easiest way is to drop off unused stuff in your apartment, I have a nice collection there already, a double barreled shotgun, a rocket launcher, some remote demo packs.

Depending on your mission it's wise to select your weapon inventory and drop what you would least use, just keep ammo with yourself as most of the time you will find weapons like shotguns which are particularly laud, but in some cases they are very useful, my personal favorite are any stun weapon like tranquilizing riffle and stun gun, as well as sniper riffle for spec ops since tranq riffle hardly works on them due to their armor and stun darts are hard to find on some missions.

I am only pissed off as far as gameplay goes that enemies have nearly 100% accuracy from nearly any distance, but some AI behavior is pretty good, you can actually ambush enemies by directing them someplace and knock them out cold in a quick melee approach.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3223 on: January 31, 2012, 06:47:45 PM »
hmm, i'll try finding a good copy on the net then XD "damn pirates!" lol

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3224 on: January 31, 2012, 06:55:03 PM »
I rate Pirate :)

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3225 on: January 31, 2012, 07:52:32 PM »
If you play stealthy, I find DE:HR to be a mix between Splinter Cell and MGS. Maybe even a little rogue/thief Skyrim play style, most only b/c it's first-person when you're not against a wall so you find yourself manipulating sight lines and moving insanely slow. In terms of playing as a shooter, I'd describe it along the lines of getting raped, because that's what happens to me about as soon as I am discovered. Without upgrading your... self... you are incredibly weak, and as previously stated the enemies have insane accuracy.

What I regret is I specifically heard "You might find yourself upgrading only stealth and then find it totally useless in a boss battle" in a GameSpot review and yet I completely ignored that and did it anyways and now I'm stuck. I'll be able to get past it, but the shooting mechanics just aren't super awesome and moving around cover is a little slow to do in a firefight with a guy who literally is constantly moving towards me.

The visuals are nice. They used this sort of, half-baked SSAO on the Xbox version which makes things look a little muddy at times, but it's still SSAO and makes rooms look have a little more depth. If you're playing on a nice PC I'm sure you'll fair better, but this is one of the less lazily developed multiplatforms out there. The character models are OK, we're not talking about any kind of insane polygon count and the ears could use some work, but aside from volumetric lighting and SSAO, I think it's the visual style that is appealing over the actual technical achievement.

I appreciate the fact that they made the game versatile so you can play guns blazing on stealthy, I just wish you could change between third and first person at will, because I would play a lot more in third person since I am going for no alarms and no kills, which means I'm barely ever shooting.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3226 on: January 31, 2012, 08:41:37 PM »
Using the terms "piracy" and "theft" to refer to file sharing pisses me off!

"Piracy" is what is happening off the African coast, where pirates commandeer vessels, kill people, and/or hold people or goods for ransom for love of the almighty dollar.  Piracy is not what happens when you upload or download material that the entertainment industry would rather you not.

"Theft" is where someone physically enters a home or a store, removes physical items that belonged to someone who had paid for them, and runs away with them, so that the purchaser is materially or financially damaged in some way.  Theft is not what happens when someone downloads a file for private use, regardless of whether a company in the entertainment industry regards that act as a potential loss, and not an actual loss of money or material!

Law and order have been seriously corrupted when "Piracy" and "Theft" are embedded in entertainment funded propaganda and laws.  That really pisses me off!

So what would you call sneaking into a movie theater?  Or sneaking into a rock concert or sporting event?  Surely these things aren't theft either, and so should be perfectly acceptable -- if you don't get caught doing them -- so there should be no reason for management to throw out any interlopers they find.
 
People who are opposed to intellectual property rights sometimes annoy me.  I honestly wish these people actually worked in an industry that produces the entertainment that they consume for free.  Whether you call it 'theft' or 'piracy' or 'circle jerking for God', the loss of sales revenue hurts more than just faceless companies or shareholders; it also impacts the workers that produce the products that we all enjoy.  Having demand for one's products means nothing if the people that produce the products aren't making money off their creations.  (Whether or not certain specific industries are gouging consumers for one reason or another is an entirely different argument.)
 
The attitude that, if someone creates something and it makes its way into public circulation in whatever fashion, then some other people automatically think they have the right to do whatever they want with the product also pisses me off.  I hate to throw out the term 'Communism' to describe this, but it is certainly anti-capitalism.  There are a lot of rights and abuses attributable to big business that I'd like to see curtailed, but, long-term, I see the diminishment of IP rights to be just as damaging to smaller, independent creators.
 
My preference is to see content become plentiful, readily available, and cheap (not necessarily free) to obtain, without a huge inconvenience or hardship associated with the experience.  The problem is, I doubt that commercial industry is likely to solve this challenge, at least not anytime soon, and hurting the producers of our entertainment too deeply in the meantime will ultimately hurt us consumers.

Read those books I posted links to earlier, they address pretty much all your concerns. Don't worry, you won't be "stealing" anything, the authors themselves put them up for free use in addition to getting them printed and sold in bookstores and via online retailers.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3227 on: January 31, 2012, 08:55:50 PM »
If you play stealthy, I find DE:HR to be a mix between Splinter Cell and MGS. Maybe even a little rogue/thief Skyrim play style, most only b/c it's first-person when you're not against a wall so you find yourself manipulating sight lines and moving insanely slow. In terms of playing as a shooter, I'd describe it along the lines of getting raped, because that's what happens to me about as soon as I am discovered. Without upgrading your... self... you are incredibly weak, and as previously stated the enemies have insane accuracy.

What I regret is I specifically heard "You might find yourself upgrading only stealth and then find it totally useless in a boss battle" in a GameSpot review and yet I completely ignored that and did it anyways and now I'm stuck. I'll be able to get past it, but the shooting mechanics just aren't super awesome and moving around cover is a little slow to do in a firefight with a guy who literally is constantly moving towards me.

The visuals are nice. They used this sort of, half-baked SSAO on the Xbox version which makes things look a little muddy at times, but it's still SSAO and makes rooms look have a little more depth. If you're playing on a nice PC I'm sure you'll fair better, but this is one of the less lazily developed multiplatforms out there. The character models are OK, we're not talking about any kind of insane polygon count and the ears could use some work, but aside from volumetric lighting and SSAO, I think it's the visual style that is appealing over the actual technical achievement.

I appreciate the fact that they made the game versatile so you can play guns blazing on stealthy, I just wish you could change between third and first person at will, because I would play a lot more in third person since I am going for no alarms and no kills, which means I'm barely ever shooting.
Since you are going Stealth, I suggest investing in Typhoon, cuz against bosses, that is pretty much your only defense and offense line, unless you stashed away a rocket launcher cuz then you probably have some chance against bosses in this game.

Non-Stealth gameplay = Suicide pretty much on everything, you indeed are getting raped on more covert missions, but you can easily outmaneuver single/2 targets on some normal level, for instance, thugs in the sewers, which is pretty hilarious that an Ex-Swat takes a beating from a few soldiers. Fun part is when you get around turrets and make them attack their allies or Robots, pretty fun seeing everyone trying to kill em, some sneaking around is pretty fun.

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The game looks nice and I love covert operations, but S-E really needs to upgrade their logic circuits.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3229 on: January 31, 2012, 10:43:59 PM »
Read those books I posted links to earlier, they address pretty much all your concerns. Don't worry, you won't be "stealing" anything, the authors themselves put them up for free use in addition to getting them printed and sold in bookstores and via online retailers.

I know this is OT, but:

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3230 on: January 31, 2012, 10:47:06 PM »
My Physics prof.

"Okay, now I'm going to talk about the midterm we have next class. I haven't written it, I don't know how long it'll be, I don't know how hard it will be and I'm not sure what will be on it yet. Don't memorize formulas, unless you need to know them. Oh and I'm not going to tell you what you need to know."

God. Last time we had a quiz he thought we should both divine what Harmonic Physics is, and understand/apply it, as well as know that when he said magnitude he meant something completely unrelated.

I'm gunna leave you anyway.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3232 on: January 31, 2012, 11:25:37 PM »
This pisses me off to no end living in the wrong country
Only in Japan o_O

And hell yeah, I want that :)

SEGA redefines the word EPIC, though one of the 5 games seems problematic if you are easily aroused, the wind game. Could get embarrassing walking in on someone enjoying that game to much lol

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3233 on: February 01, 2012, 04:08:08 AM »
The antivaccine movement. Oh God I hate them so much all of them I can't express how much I despise every single one of them. They are one of the worst danger to our society. Their movement is responsible for the death of millions. They push parents to endanger their own children and in the name of their safety. They convince governments to ban vaccines in the very countries that need them the most. And they threaten and intimidate the scientists who have consecrated their life to helping humanity get rid of its worst natural enemies.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3234 on: February 01, 2012, 04:43:46 AM »
The antivaccine movement.
Never heard of them. Sounds like a bunch of lunatics though.

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« Reply #3235 on: February 01, 2012, 05:05:05 AM »
The antivaccine movement.
Never heard of them. Sounds like a bunch of lunatics though.
Unfortunately, they are somewhat successful lunatics. They are closely related to the alternative medicine movement. A lot of their known spokesmen are homeopaths (and possibly sociopaths too). Seriously, for anybody who is not an idiot and who is wants to improve the human standards of living, eradicating pathogens should be a priority and it just so happen the vaccination is the only way that has historically demonstrated to work in that quest.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3236 on: February 01, 2012, 05:16:02 AM »
The antivaccine movement.
Never heard of them. Sounds like a bunch of lunatics though.
Unfortunately, they are somewhat successful lunatics. They are closely related to the alternative medicine movement. A lot of their known spokesmen are homeopaths (and possibly sociopaths too). Seriously, for anybody who is not an idiot and who is wants to improve the human standards of living, eradicating pathogens should be a priority and it just so happen the vaccination is the only way that has historically demonstrated to work in that quest.
Homeopathy is quite widespread and common over here but I have yet to hear anyone except superstitious people (and never homeopaths) advise against vaccination.
No vaccine for stupidity ;D I wonder what these people propose instead of vaccines?

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3237 on: February 01, 2012, 05:22:30 AM »
My throat itching all the damn time and my right ear having difficulties hearing things.

Yay!  ::)
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3238 on: February 01, 2012, 08:15:26 AM »
My throat itching all the damn time and my right ear having difficulties hearing things.

Yay!  ::)

What is with that? I hate the throat itch! It's always... not right in the area that is relieved by forcefully coughing? Bullshit!

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #3239 on: February 01, 2012, 08:22:31 AM »
The fact I enjoy terrible music.

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