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Offline ShurikenUK

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7800 on: March 17, 2013, 06:58:13 PM »
Many things, MANY f*cking things... There ain't much good about adult life, but what is good, is very good, I must say. shame its few and far between if you kna'mean LOL!

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7801 on: March 17, 2013, 08:17:19 PM »
You might want to go to Alanon or AA, ask them for advice on how to best deal with your specific case. They've dealt with problems like these for years, and it's far better going in with your eyes open then floundering around with good intentions.  If he is as introverted and anxious as you stated, you don't want to isolate him further with dramatics. Nor do you want to keep working as a bandaid solution until it stretches you too far, or just fails to work anymore. At least you can recognize the problem you're actually facing.

You could also look for someone else he, and your family, respects. A friend, or possibly ther priest/spiritual advisor. Someone who can be both objective and considerate to the situation, and be there when he/she is needed. Your cousin is trying to do this to you, but you're clearly uncomfortable with fulfilling this role indefinitely... and you may be too biased at this point.

My father's an alcoholic, it took considerable effort on his part and the support of a local Buddhist community to get him normal.

Perhaps.  I'm not convinced that alcohol is the problem.  At this point it may just be a coping mechanism to some degree (which is obviously still not a good thing).  Professional counseling, though, would probably be beneficial for my family members.
 
The problem is all of the other pressures that have been building on my uncle.  Over the last few years, my uncle's wife has survived a brain tumor, they went through bankruptcy and gave up the house they had been in for 25 years.  They moved out into the boondocks (despite my advice that it wasn't a good idea), so now my uncle is driving at least 40 miles to work one way.  He works for the Orlando Sentinel, and that company has been squeezing their employees badly for years now, so his job is in a perpetual state of uncertainty.  On top of all of this, his daughter has used and abused my aunt & uncle over the years to the point that they are now estranged.  Several times before they moved, my uncle was threatened by street thugs in his neighborhood, which led to some legal troubles for a bit until it got straightened out. 
 
Now imagine all of this stuff going on, and then family members who haven't been around at all during any of this suddenly start being judgemental of my uncle during the only time that said family members visit, after more than decade.  It's a mess, and I can see several different interpretations to the situation.  I think the problem is solvable, but it depends on people letting go of grudges and not being so judgemental, which is easier said than done.  Honestly, though, I won't be surprised if it ends in a heart attack.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7802 on: March 17, 2013, 09:34:03 PM »
If you're blind?
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7803 on: March 17, 2013, 10:10:27 PM »
You might want to go to Alanon or AA, ask them for advice on how to best deal with your specific case. They've dealt with problems like these for years, and it's far better going in with your eyes open then floundering around with good intentions.  If he is as introverted and anxious as you stated, you don't want to isolate him further with dramatics. Nor do you want to keep working as a bandaid solution until it stretches you too far, or just fails to work anymore. At least you can recognize the problem you're actually facing.

You could also look for someone else he, and your family, respects. A friend, or possibly ther priest/spiritual advisor. Someone who can be both objective and considerate to the situation, and be there when he/she is needed. Your cousin is trying to do this to you, but you're clearly uncomfortable with fulfilling this role indefinitely... and you may be too biased at this point.

My father's an alcoholic, it took considerable effort on his part and the support of a local Buddhist community to get him normal.

Perhaps.  I'm not convinced that alcohol is the problem.  At this point it may just be a coping mechanism to some degree (which is obviously still not a good thing).  Professional counseling, though, would probably be beneficial for my family members.

I know, I'm not saying he is - however - you aren't sure. You wouldn't have provided the context of your family's trials with alcoholism and his dubious drinking behaviour if you weren't worried it may be more than just a lapse in behaviour brought about by stress. I'm not saying throw an intervention, just to talk with people who are more grounded on the subject and more impartial like Al-Anon - who deal with families. You might just be projecting your own low emotional state onto him and are incapable of assessing him pragmatically, or you might be right and this is a different problem. It might be both cases. Knowing more about it could alleviate some of the stress you must be feeling.


The problem is all of the other pressures that have been building on my uncle.  Over the last few years, my uncle's wife has survived a brain tumour, they went through bankruptcy and gave up the house they had been in for 25 years.  They moved out into the boondocks (despite my advice that it wasn't a good idea), so now my uncle is driving at least 40 miles to work one way.  He works for the Orlando Sentinel, and that company has been squeezing their employees badly for years now, so his job is in a perpetual state of uncertainty.  On top of all of this, his daughter has used and abused my aunt & uncle over the years to the point that they are now estranged.  Several times before they moved, my uncle was threatened by street thugs in his neighbourhood, which led to some legal troubles for a bit until it got straightened out. 
 
Now imagine all of this stuff going on, and then family members who haven't been around at all during any of this suddenly start being judgmental of my uncle during the only time that said family members visit, after more than decade.  It's a mess, and I can see several different interpretations to the situation.  I think the problem is solvable, but it depends on people letting go of grudges and not being so judgemental, which is easier said than done.  Honestly, though, I won't be surprised if it ends in a heart attack.

Solvable maybe, but do you believe you are the one who can find the solution yourself? If not, you have the choice of isolating yourself as you might want to at some point, or find someone(s) else who can find that solution. You have good intentions towards your family, you want them to be functional and happy, but putting more stress on yourself is just going to burn you out. It's using a small bucket to put out an inferno, you don't have do it on your own, get others to help form a bucket brigade.

Your aunt (if I'm comprehending this properly) grew up with alcoholics, her response may be attributed more to having had drinking men be a common source of stress throughout her life. 

...and have you talked with your uncle's wife alone to get her point of view? Or is that not an option.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7804 on: March 17, 2013, 11:29:28 PM »
Ix, if all else fails, repeat this statement as often as necessary. No me hablo Ingles.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7805 on: March 18, 2013, 01:33:19 AM »
Solvable maybe, but do you believe you are the one who can find the solution yourself? If not, you have the choice of isolating yourself as you might want to at some point, or find someone(s) else who can find that solution. You have good intentions towards your family, you want them to be functional and happy, but putting more stress on yourself is just going to burn you out. It's using a small bucket to put out an inferno, you don't have do it on your own, get others to help form a bucket brigade.

Your aunt (if I'm comprehending this properly) grew up with alcoholics, her response may be attributed more to having had drinking men be a common source of stress throughout her life. 

...and have you talked with your uncle's wife alone to get her point of view? Or is that not an option.

I do think that my uncle's sister is projecting her past experiences onto the situation.  But I also mistrust my own perceptions so conversely I wonder if there might be some truth to her opinions.  It's difficult for me to know for sure, because it's not like I spend much time with my family, and I definitely don't know everything that's been going on.  I haven't talked to anyone since Christmas, and I haven't decided if I'm going to reach out to anyone or just stay out of view for a while longer.  It's not only about my perceptions, but lack of information as well.  And I certainly have no illusions about my ability to solve other people's problems.  If I say or do anything, I need to tread carefully, or I'm likely to stir the pot and get drawn into the middle of a bunch of crap.
 
Talking to my uncle's wife alone is difficult; my uncle's work schedule is different from mine, and most of the time when I call, they are both at home.  I've already had a couple of awkward conversation with them before Christmas, and I'd like to avoid repeating that.
 
I think I'm going to stay out of sight for a while longer.  I think Jaybug's got the right idea, at least for now -- pretend ignorance and keep moving.  I'm going to let them sort out their problems for the time being.  But who knows, something could change tomorrow.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7806 on: March 18, 2013, 03:15:41 AM »
I think I'm going to stay out of sight for a while longer.  I think Jaybug's got the right idea, at least for now -- pretend ignorance and keep moving.  I'm going to let them sort out their problems for the time being.  But who knows, something could change tomorrow.

Meh, it's not like melodramatic crap happens every day. This stuff just gets intolerable when you get the old bataan death march to some relations' wedding or whatever other annoyingly obligatory get-together that they seem to come up with. I don't even have real problems with most of my kin, yet those things always make me want to squeeze a stress-ball to it's maximum while beating my head against a hard surface.

You don't have to do anything familial at Easter, do you? Because I'd expect that to suck extra hard.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7807 on: March 18, 2013, 03:30:00 AM »
Take care of you Ix. First and foremost and always, take care of you. Then when you are safe and okay, you may be able to try to help others. But if and only if, they are willing to be helped. You are probably right to question your own feelings and motives. And guess what else? It is never your job to have to fix people that you did not father or give birth to. Your own children are you in any way somewhat always obligated to try to help.

Oh, and try to make sure you are in a good space, when and if you decide to involve yourself. As if you didn't know that already.
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7808 on: March 18, 2013, 12:25:00 PM »
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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7809 on: March 18, 2013, 12:47:56 PM »
@ lxarku

Only started reading this conversation now but if you suspect he's becoming an alcoholic you really should talk to him about it before he's neck-deep in it. I'm not exactly knowledgeable on alcohol addiction but I've had personal experience with other hard drugs and addiction/withdrawal can get so bad that it feels like it never goes away, at least psychologically. If you really abuse them they can leave lasting imprints such as dreams or little cravings that never leave you, no matter how long you abstain from them. Even if you cut away from it and try to get clean, it's hard to stay that way when there's mounting pressure that boxes you in. I would seriously consider trying to find him another way to alleviate or at least manage his drinking.

Always makes me feel shameful about myself when I see people get entrenched in drug habits due to stress or pain, since I never had those kinds of problems. It seems like he could use someone as support but ultimately alot of people with these addictions have to want to kick it for themselves and not anyone else.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7810 on: March 18, 2013, 01:11:40 PM »
Getting a little difficult keeping up with the different conversations, so I spoilered my replies... I will say, thanks to everyone for your input.  It is nice to get some objective opinions.
 
Take care of you Ix. First and foremost and always, take care of you. Then when you are safe and okay, you may be able to try to help others. But if and only if, they are willing to be helped. You are probably right to question your own feelings and motives. And guess what else? It is never your job to have to fix people that you did not father or give birth to. Your own children are you in any way somewhat always obligated to try to help.

Oh, and try to make sure you are in a good space, when and if you decide to involve yourself. As if you didn't know that already.

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You don't have to do anything familial at Easter, do you? Because I'd expect that to suck extra hard.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7811 on: March 18, 2013, 01:28:26 PM »
My bad, I tend to get a bit reactionary when it comes to topics like this.

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7812 on: March 18, 2013, 01:35:40 PM »
Waiting for this last parcel is driving me a little crazy :/

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7813 on: March 18, 2013, 02:27:28 PM »
My bad, I tend to get a bit reactionary when it comes to topics like this.

No worries.  Folks here can only make judgements based on the information that's been shared.
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« Reply #7814 on: March 18, 2013, 02:28:49 PM »
Its late. I don't like things that are late.

* kurandoinu has late parcel madness

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« Reply #7815 on: March 18, 2013, 09:40:59 PM »
Could write how my stupid keybaord pissed me off earlier. It shut down the browser after I had spent time writing a reply here.

To repeat myself; my wife had a similar problem Kura. She was waiting on two parcels. Both arrived this past week. whew. She got a lecture from one company to get shipping insurance next time. My wife says it wasn't offered with free shipping.

I heard from graveyard that our boss thinks the back shifts aren't doing enough work, so he is going to start making us paint the plant. I guess he needs to pay me back for taking classes.

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« Reply #7816 on: March 18, 2013, 10:02:10 PM »
The shipping is still reporting 'your item will be delivered at 2pm!'

It wasn't even free delivery, I paid about £5 for it ><

Arrrgh

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7817 on: March 19, 2013, 10:43:59 PM »
Losing the last three days of productivity due to other things. And my weekend was just ":(".

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Re: Things that piss you off!
« Reply #7818 on: March 19, 2013, 11:11:56 PM »
waking up

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« Reply #7819 on: March 19, 2013, 11:28:54 PM »
waking up

Waking up pissed off also pisses me off. ¯\(°_o)/¯