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Werewolves, Serial Killers and Demons (Murdergame: Modified rules) Round Four
scotsman:
These rules are just confusing me ???. I thought the paladin couldn't be turned into a vampire. I also thought that the werewolf got detained by sheriff then they wouldn't go on and attack someone, however it never says about when the sheriff was turned into a werewolf if he could attack someone even if he takes someone else into custody.
ilkaid:
--- Quote from: scotsman on October 02, 2010, 08:09:34 PM ---These rules are just confusing me ???. I thought the paladin couldn't be turned into a vampire. I also thought that the werewolf got detained by sheriff then they wouldn't go on and attack someone, however it never says about when the sheriff was turned into a werewolf if he could attack someone even if he takes someone else into custody.
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From the 1st post:
--- Quote ---(The vampire) Can be stopped by Paladin, but not killed. The Paladin however is subsequently turned. Their protected target will remain unaffected.
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I'm pretty certain that a detained werewolf will only attack the sheriff. The confusion is caused by Borror0 (the vampire) trying to convince everyone a werewolf is about and that they are a danger in an effort to escape the noose.
As for the 3rd part, I'm not sure how it works.
Borror0:
--- Quote from: ilkaid on October 02, 2010, 07:43:50 PM ---Well I don't know about you but I would consider being questioned by the sheriff to be more than 'a short period of time'
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Considering that Tiffanys' post was in response to someone else claiming that there is only one werewolf, and considering that Tiffanys clearly said that there are two werewolves in an earlier post, you're wrong. For a werewolf on a full moon night, being questioned by the sheriff isn't time consuming: after a short amount of time, the sheriff is either dead or on your side.
If you think otherwise, you're wrong. Tiffanys clearly spelled out there was another werewolf beside Meomix and Chiyachan.
Borror0:
Apparently, ilkaid is hoping for "an innocent victory."
Ha! Don't make me laugh.
No matter the outcome of this deathmatch, one thing is clear: innocents have already lost. The choice left to you is whether you want to join the ranks of Queen Ophelia or if you want to be mauled to death by werewolves. Immortality or death, which do you prefer?
Here is the current population of Baka Town:
1 vampire
2 newborn vampires
1 demon
2 werewolves
4 innocents*
If you do vote me out tonight, you'll have to vote tomoya-kun out the next night. Otherwise, there is a good chance the town's population will consist of three werewolves and three non-werewolves the following day. That is, the demon will probably manage to kill one target over the next two nights, someone else will be lynched, someone will be killed by a werewolf, and someone else will be turned into a werewolf. Basically, you will have to vote tomoya-kun out the next day.
However, if you do vote for tomoya-kun, the town's population will probably consist of mostly vampires afterwards! That is, the new vampire will turn an innocent into a newborn vampire bringing the total vampire population to three... out of 5-7 people, with possibly only one of those even being an innocent at that point.
So, don't make me laugh you fools. Innocents have already lost. Whatever the outcome will be, innocents cannot win.
However, not all hopes are lost for you mere mortals. I have a very generous offer. If you submit to my power now, I will kindly turn you into vampires. Rather than a painful death, IMMORTALITY awaits you if you accept my offer. Rather than defeat, victory awaits you. Surrender to me, and you shall be victorious! If you all side with me tonight, and vote to lynch ilkaid, you will be forgiven your past sins and be welcomed to our ranks.
I hereby change my vote to ilkaid and hope you will take my offer, for that is your last hope to taste victory.
Submit to my power. It is your last chance.
*I use innocents as a category for innocents and protectors.
ilkaid:
It seems Borror0 is trying to scare us into defeat ::)
Alright then I'll go along with the hypothetical situation Chiya managed to turn his original target back on day 1.
You claim innocents have already lost. However keep a few very important facts in mind.
1) If we Lynch Borror0 tonight, One of his newborns becomes the new vampire (A *very* important question for Tiff: Does the newborn who becomes a full vampire get to target someone the same night as the first vampire is lynched or will they have to wait a night?) depending on the anwser we may get a nights break from the bloodsuckers.
2) You claim the werewolf has already managed to convert someone, what if the target was proteced by the doctor? We may only have one werewolf, who by the logical you display must be Tomoya-kun.
3) We get the 2nd vampire and all newborns revert, we could get the paladin back.
4) There is still the vigilante with his 2 shiny silver bullets.
5) There must still be a doctor.
Assuming and it is a big assuption I know that the first 2 points are true (ignoring the demon for the moment) we are left with:
1 Vampire
1 Newborn vampire
1 Demon
1 Werewolf
5 Innocents (including doctor and vigilante)
Even if we assume the worst, there are two werewolves, we lynch Borror0, the new vampire turns an innocent and the demon kills an innocent
1 Vampire
2 Newborn Vampire
1 Demon
2 Werewolves
2 Innocents
We would be in trouble here but we vote out the next vampire and then innocents outnumber everyone.
Don't count us out yet Borror0 we're still in this.
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